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edmo [TotalFark] [OhFark]  
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2020-04-09 10:29:54 AM  
My local is one. If they die off, the guys running it will likely blame the virus. The reality is it's been in a downward spiral of layoffs and declining quality while adding 6-figure managers. It's publishing just five days a week now.

Not sure it will matter. This is a very red state and people write in to complain or cancel subscriptions anytime something runs that makes Trump look bad. They're getting their "news" elsewhere.
 
cman [TotalFark] [OhFark]  
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2020-04-09 10:56:04 AM  
It has since 2008 been all down-hill for local journalism

They gotta compete with the entire globe on the Internet because thats how folks consume their news
 
Mugato [TotalFark]  
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2020-04-09 11:14:55 AM  

edmo: This is a very red state and people write in to complain or cancel subscriptions anytime something runs that makes Trump look bad


So they're down to what, "all Marmaduke, all the time"?
 
ElwoodCuse  
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2020-04-09 11:20:14 AM  
due to Covid-19 Private Equity

FTFY
 
Badmoodman [TotalFark]  
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2020-04-09 11:20:44 AM  
If only the Washington Times and New York Post were about to become extinct.
 
tmyk [OhFark]  
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2020-04-09 11:20:46 AM  
Feature not a virus bug.

What's the over/under on a tweet declaring victory over "The Amazon Washington Post"?
 
2020-04-09 11:21:25 AM  
Will it kill Outbrain and Taboola too?
 
2020-04-09 11:21:38 AM  
Cleveland's storied The Plain Dealer is now dead in all but name only.
 
2020-04-09 11:22:51 AM  

edmo: My local is one. If they die off, the guys running it will likely blame the virus. The reality is it's been in a downward spiral of layoffs and declining quality while adding 6-figure managers. It's publishing just five days a week now.

Not sure it will matter. This is a very red state and people write in to complain or cancel subscriptions anytime something runs that makes Trump look bad. They're getting their "news" elsewhere.


Same here
 
ifky  
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2020-04-09 11:23:40 AM  
I have a Thursday Sunday subscription for the one paper. Mainly to get the sale papers. The other local posted on their website that they need subscribers to survive. Unfortunately; neither is all that great of a paper with all the layoffs they've gone through. A local blogger is providing better local news coverage. I have been refusing to give him clicks, because of some stances on the pandemic.
 
2020-04-09 11:25:06 AM  

WhackingDay: Will it kill Outbrain and Taboola too?


God I hope so.  I think that's a conservative 2/3rds of my local paper's online "content."  That, and the autoplay videos.  Their site is un. freaking. usable.  Their app is somewhat better, though.

And they wonder why they're losing subscribers...
 
JDAT [OhFark]  
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2020-04-09 11:25:13 AM  
And that whole internet thing that's been going around.
 
havocmike  
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2020-04-09 11:25:24 AM  

cman: It has since 2008 been all down-hill for local journalism

They gotta compete with the entire globe on the Internet because thats how folks consume their news


This is a very local crisis and people ARE turning to local sources for news on the virus. The online outlets they're turning to aren't Sherry's momma blog or Garry's Greenville Gossip, but (gasp!) the websites and social media pages belonging to established television news stations and newspapers!

The ironic tragedy is, as those sites, stations and even printed papers get the most eyeballs they've had in years, the advertisers are canceling due to economic pressure.
 
vudukungfu [TotalFark] [OhFark]  
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2020-04-09 11:25:38 AM  
Don't worry, We will get over it.

And get used to the same exact copy, being read by the same exact clones, on clone sites, with the same exact pop up ads, and same exact click bait "Viral" headlines trending now, with the same exact pasteurized, homogenized, filtered, approved, and whitewashed content the sponsors insist is real news.

57 channels and nothing on.

But you can still pay for the bandwidth and surf around and try to find a news aggregate website, monitored by independent individuals with a favor for snark, ... or will you be able to.

in the year 2525?
 
coffeetime [TotalFark]  
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2020-04-09 11:26:14 AM  

FarkBucket18: Cleveland's storied The Plain Dealer is now dead in all but name only.


I just got my bill to continue the delivery subscription.  Kinda hard to continue a subscription to a newspaper that will not cover, um... news.
 
dothemath  
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2020-04-09 11:26:38 AM  
This is fine.
Reading in general should be stopped. I mean its a waste of time when you can get all of your news and life information from FOX News.
 
Mouser  
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2020-04-09 11:26:39 AM  
Dead-tree news sources are dinosaurs.  They've been going extinct for decades thanks to the Internet.  They won't be missed.
 
orbister  
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2020-04-09 11:28:26 AM  
How are the buggy whip manufacturers doing? And Myspace?
 
Ldrtchbrd  
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2020-04-09 11:28:33 AM  
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pdieten  
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2020-04-09 11:30:47 AM  

Mouser: Dead-tree news sources are dinosaurs.  They've been going extinct for decades thanks to the Internet.  They won't be missed.


Dead tree news sources still exist because people are old and are used to having paper. I do not know of many "dead-tree" news source that are not, essentially, the paper of record for its local area, and they are all digital. They sell digital subscriptions. I have several.

It would be a very bad thing for large metro areas to not have a newspaper of record. But, people have the idea that they do not have to pay for the content gathering and investigation that we call journalism. Thus we accelerate down the road to idiocracy.
 
phamwaa  
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2020-04-09 11:30:55 AM  
Buffett sold ours off to a consortium. The want ads are a half-page and consist mostly of filler ads to, you know, but want ads.

They laid off a ton of staff. The death watch begins.
 
Likwit  
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2020-04-09 11:30:57 AM  

ElwoodCuse: due to Covid-19 Private Equity

FTFY


I heard this newfangled thing called "the internets" is having an effect too.
 
phamwaa  
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2020-04-09 11:31:27 AM  
*buy* want ads FFS.
 
Jairzinho  
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2020-04-09 11:32:01 AM  
But sadly FOX News, Breitfart and OAN will still be up and running.
 
OlderGuy [TotalFark]  
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2020-04-09 11:32:33 AM  

cman: It has since 2008 been all down-hill for local journalism

They gotta compete with the entire globe on the Internet because thats how folks consume their news


True journalism does not exist anymore.  Newspapers are a waste of paper.  Make TP instead.
 
ElwoodCuse  
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2020-04-09 11:33:42 AM  

Likwit: ElwoodCuse: due to Covid-19 Private Equity

FTFY

I heard this newfangled thing called "the internets" is having an effect too.


if by "internet" you mean "google and facebook's online advertising duopoly" then yes
 
2020-04-09 11:34:24 AM  
They should just put up a paywall.  That fixes everything.  Wait...we are talking about actual dead tree paper?
 
Iowan73  
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2020-04-09 11:36:05 AM  

OlderGuy: cman: It has since 2008 been all down-hill for local journalism

They gotta compete with the entire globe on the Internet because thats how folks consume their news

True journalism does not exist anymore.  Newspapers are a waste of paper.  Make TP instead.


It does exist. You're just not looking for it.
 
2020-04-09 11:36:36 AM  
Hundreds of newspapers?  So that's what, five companies?

Seriously, as if a year or so ago, every local paper in my area is owned by the same company. Yet they continue to publish all of them to give the illusion of choice, even though the same copy shows up in different ones.
 
2020-04-09 11:37:09 AM  

Mouser: Dead-tree news sources are dinosaurs.  They've been going extinct for decades thanks to the Internet.  They won't be missed.


Nah, a paper newspaper is the latest hipster accessory. Obviously, you have to be in the know to fold it correctly.

\ worth a try
 
2020-04-09 11:38:10 AM  
Who cares?  This is all I need.

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ieerto  
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2020-04-09 11:39:12 AM  

OlderGuy: cman: It has since 2008 been all down-hill for local journalism

They gotta compete with the entire globe on the Internet because thats how folks consume their news

True journalism does not exist anymore.  Newspapers are a waste of paper.  Make TP instead.


True journalism aka unbiased info never existed. Every story has an angle. Newsprint exists to sell ads.
 
2020-04-09 11:40:23 AM  

edmo: This is a very red state and people write in to complain or cancel subscriptions anytime something runs that makes Trump look bad.


In other words, simply reporting what he says and does.
 
Jairzinho  
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2020-04-09 11:40:41 AM  

Badmoodman: If only the Washington Times and New York Post were about to become extinct.


They just need to hold another crowning ceremony at the Capitol and sell tickets for it at a few thousands dollars.
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Gpzjock  
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2020-04-09 11:40:42 AM  
Americans still read newspapers?
How quaint. I don't even watch TV anymore.
 
2020-04-09 11:41:06 AM  
What are these newspapers you speak of? Are they those pieces of parchment that people wrote on after crushing berries and dipping feathers in it? I am but a borderline millennial and your ancient ways frighten me.
 
2020-04-09 11:42:00 AM  
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I highly recommend bare Fark! I no longer have to report NSFW ads ob a weekly basis, and TF makes gifs play automatically again! So sign up, or gift a subscription if you can!
 
edmo [TotalFark] [OhFark]  
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2020-04-09 11:43:21 AM  
This is on Fark now.

https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/local-news/oh-cuyahoga/cleveland-plain-dealer-newspaper-staff-told-they-can-no-longer-cover-cleveland

My local has a bad case of this. They have maybe a half dozen stories per day, the rest is newswire. The ran far more local sports.
 
desertratt  
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2020-04-09 11:44:24 AM  

Iowan73: OlderGuy: cman: It has since 2008 been all down-hill for local journalism

They gotta compete with the entire globe on the Internet because thats how folks consume their news

True journalism does not exist anymore.  Newspapers are a waste of paper.  Make TP instead.

It does exist. You're just not looking for it.


That's the problem, I should not have to dig to get past all the bias.
 
RTOGUY  
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2020-04-09 11:48:38 AM  
My local paper is now just a website with a couple stories a day posted up between huge banner ads for car dealerships and mattress stores.
 
2020-04-09 11:48:39 AM  
Its not like there haven't been signs of all news moving online for the last 15 years or so...learn to code
 
Kronnyj  
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2020-04-09 11:49:37 AM  
I recommend reading this book, Feed.  It's a Zombie book, but it shows a society that treats the zombies as a virus problem and how traditional news agencies have gone bankrupt.  It shows how societies deal with the virus and the new way news is reported on an individual basis.

https://www.amazon.com/Feed-Newsflesh-Book-Mira-Grant/dp/0316081051
 
Iowan73  
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2020-04-09 11:49:47 AM  
I'm glad I got out of newspaper journalism eight years ago when I decided not to wait around for my turn to be laid off, but it's a shame what's happening. People who told important local stories are being let go, and replaced with wire copy and filler. Even the local TV newscasts are full of stories from other communities that have nothing to do with our area because it's cheaper than paying a local reporter $25,000 per year to do local stories. I thought I was getting paid like shiat until a small market TV reporter told me what she made.
 
2020-04-09 11:50:38 AM  

orbister: How are the buggy whip manufacturers doing? And Myspace?


Imagine thinking journalism is an outdated concept.
 
malaktaus  
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2020-04-09 11:51:14 AM  

Mugato: edmo: This is a very red state and people write in to complain or cancel subscriptions anytime something runs that makes Trump look bad

So they're down to what, "all Marmaduke, all the time"?


No, they also have Family Circus and Garfield.
 
2020-04-09 11:52:23 AM  

cman: It has since 2008 been all down-hill for local journalism

They gotta compete with the entire globe on the Internet because thats how folks consume their news


Well, that and about half of them have been turned into Kremlin sleeper cells.
 
2020-04-09 11:58:06 AM  
People still read newspapers? How quaint.
 
malaktaus  
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2020-04-09 11:58:55 AM  

pdieten: It would be a very bad thing for large metro areas to not have a newspaper of record.


I would argue that it's worse to have a trash newspaper of record than none at all. When the Albuquerque Journal eventually goes under, nothing of value will be lost. I'm sure a lot of cities are in a similar situation.
 
2020-04-09 11:59:05 AM  
Don't worry I'm sure some media baron will bail them out by acquiring them at fire sale prices.
 
2020-04-09 12:00:59 PM  

ThatSillyGoose: orbister: How are the buggy whip manufacturers doing? And Myspace?

Imagine thinking journalism is an outdated concept.


Or that this is a problem that's going to be localized to the newspaper industry.  There are fewer public companies today than there were in 1970. I wonder if that will get better or worse after this.
 
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