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Dr.Fey [TotalFark] [OhFark]  
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2020-01-22 9:51:47 PM  
The whole thing was a stupid idea to begin with.  The Americans with Disabilities Act does not recognize nor provide any protection for emotional support animals in public accommodations.  Period.

You are not allowed to bring them into grocery stores, restaurants, etc...

Now, if an airline wants to allow dogs that are small enough to fit in a soft "crate" that fits under the seat in front of you like a carry-on, fine.  That's a business decision (and we took my gal's Maltese from California to NY and back doing so).  But allowing "from snakes to miniature horses, pigs, ducks, peacocks and turkeys" is just stupid.

And the majority of these folks don't really have an "emotional disability," they are abusing the system like getting a handicapped placard when you don't need one just so you can park closer.
 
Excelsior  
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2020-01-22 10:20:15 PM  
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NotARocketScientist  
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2020-01-22 10:22:25 PM  
I've flown with my pets before. We were moving cross country and flew the animals so they didn't have to be in the car for a week. They stayed in carriers that went under the seat. We didn't pretend that a couple panicked cats were emotional support animals.
 
Gubbo [TotalFark] [OhFark]  
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2020-01-22 10:24:58 PM  
I've travelled across the Atlantic and back with my dog, as well as a trip to a specialist vet for his eyes.

I will say that I've never been as stressed as when he was in the cargo hold. Worrying that he hadn't been loaded, about take off, landing, a strange and probably scary environment for him.

Hell I needed some emotional support for those flights.

/instead all I got was booze
 
Thong_of_Zardoz  
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2020-01-22 10:26:31 PM  
People who need to take their pets with them everywhere are douchebags, pure and simple.

The local hardware/sporting goods store has a sign that says instead of leaving your dogs in the car in the hot summer sun (a lot of people stop for last minute camping supplies), you can bring them into the store while you briefly shop.

Of course, every self-entitled douchebag takes that to mean "take all your dogs in the store for as long as you want at any time".

The place was like a farking zoo, even on cool days.

I think they actually had to stop doing this because of the problems it was causing, thus ruining it for people who legitimately needed it.
 
Wadded Beef [TotalFark] [OhFark]  
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2020-01-22 10:26:32 PM  
<ctrl-F> Bees.

Not found. Whew.
 
Terrapin Bound [TotalFark]  
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2020-01-22 10:26:43 PM  
Great.  Now I'll have to go back to smuggling aboard my gerbil the old fashioned way.
 
Farxist Marxist  
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2020-01-22 10:27:34 PM  
It's sad that animals will soon be treated as abysmally as human passengers.
 
Thong_of_Zardoz  
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2020-01-22 10:28:43 PM  

Terrapin Bound: Great.  Now I'll have to go back to smuggling aboard my gerbil the old fashioned way.


I loved you in "An Officer and a Gentleman"!
 
BlippityBleep [TotalFark]  
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2020-01-22 10:28:53 PM  
If dogs are allowed then cats should be too.  Fluffy McFurball in a kennel under the seat isn't bothering anyone any more than any dog would.
 
Wanton Pearl Clutchery  
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2020-01-22 10:29:04 PM  

Dr.Fey: The whole thing was a stupid idea to begin with.  The Americans with Disabilities Act does not recognize nor provide any protection for emotional support animals in public accommodations.  Period.
You are not allowed to bring them into grocery stores, restaurants, etc...

Now, if an airline wants to allow dogs that are small enough to fit in a soft "crate" that fits under the seat in front of you like a carry-on, fine.  That's a business decision (and we took my gal's Maltese from California to NY and back doing so).  But allowing "from snakes to miniature horses, pigs, ducks, peacocks and turkeys" is just stupid.

And the majority of these folks don't really have an "emotional disability," they are abusing the system like getting a handicapped placard when you don't need one just so you can park closer.


I feel a strong agreement on your lesser point, which was the placard-thingie.  I had Guillain-Barré and as a result still have a bit of a hitch in my giddyup.  At the time, I had to use a wheelchair.  Just to be pissy, I guess, I would park a good couple of spots away and wrangle myself into the chair and out again because I didn't want to be there forever and it pissed me off to even have to be there temporarily.  It took a bit, but I got back to walking on my own, graduating from that gawdawful walker that my brother stuck a "bring bring" bell on and my husband festooned with tennis balls, because that's what you do.

The first time I made it to that gawddamned shopping cart at the very front row at the grocery store from where my husband had dutifully 'driven miss daisy' to get his sammich fixings and my tea, I was simultaneously exultant and disgusted.  I made my grade for sure, but this gal, high-stepping from the handicapped spot in her stilettos felt like some kind of kick in my (non-existent) nads.  WTF lady?  I earned those extra fifty feet and you can't be bothered to park one spot over.

I guess I may have placed a bit of my recuperative benchmarks along those spots and so made them more important.

This is where I should now stop typing.
 
Loucifer  
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2020-01-22 10:29:07 PM  
They should allow emotional support weed on planes. Long flights would be so chill.
 
We Ate the Necco Wafers  
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2020-01-22 10:29:29 PM  
I've been fortunate that I haven't had to share a row with someone's emotional support animal.

I'm also fortunate to not need an emotional support animal.
 
ChrisDe  
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2020-01-22 10:31:40 PM  

Gubbo: I've travelled across the Atlantic and back with my dog, as well as a trip to a specialist vet for his eyes.

I will say that I've never been as stressed as when he was in the cargo hold. Worrying that he hadn't been loaded, about take off, landing, a strange and probably scary environment for him.

Hell I needed some emotional support for those flights.

/instead all I got was booze


Wild turkey is my emotional support animal.
 
kb7rky  
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2020-01-22 10:32:06 PM  
I once worked for a non-emergent transportation service, taking people to and from medical appointments.

I had one customer try to tell me her three dogs were "emotional-support animals", and insisted they had to accompany her to her appointment. She also provided "credentials" and a signed paper from the doctor. These dogs growled and snapped at each other during the entire 10-minute trip to the doctor's office, despite being in pet carriers.

I told my boss afterward that she had faked the credentials for her farking family pets, and just wanted an excuse to take them everywhere with her. He said we weren't allowed to question things like this.
 
aagrajag  
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2020-01-22 10:35:58 PM  

kb7rky: I once worked for a non-emergent transportation service, taking people to and from medical appointments.

I had one customer try to tell me her three dogs were "emotional-support animals", and insisted they had to accompany her to her appointment. She also provided "credentials" and a signed paper from the doctor. These dogs growled and snapped at each other during the entire 10-minute trip to the doctor's office, despite being in pet carriers.

I told my boss afterward that she had faked the credentials for her farking family pets, and just wanted an excuse to take them everywhere with her. He said we weren't allowed to question things like this.


But why?

Why does he allow them to get away with this?
 
Pointy Tail of Satan  
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2020-01-22 10:36:14 PM  
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mikaloyd [OhFark]  
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2020-01-22 10:36:16 PM  

Dr.Fey: And the majority of these folks don't really have an "emotional disability," they are abusing the system like getting a handicapped placard when you don't need one just so you can park closer.


Im not saying you are wrong but are there any published statistics on sane people simply pretending to be crazy so they can drag livestock around with them wherever they go?
 
skinink [OhFark]  
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2020-01-22 10:37:25 PM  

Wadded Beef: <ctrl-F> Bees.

Not found. Whew.


Neither are wasps! Now my problem is how to fit John Kerry into a paper nest.
 
rnatalie [TotalFark] [OhFark]  
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2020-01-22 10:41:56 PM  
As long as I can take this on board:

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Hey Nurse! [OhFark]  
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2020-01-22 10:42:12 PM  
My stepdaughter got approval for an emotional support animal. Of course, she wanted ferrets (which pretty much need another ferret or they become assholes - or so I'm told). Then she found out the regs at college say "emotional support animal" not "animals", so no she could not have ferrets in the dorm.. Amazing how fast her need for emotional support disappeared after that. Just sayin'
 
Gubbo [TotalFark] [OhFark]  
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2020-01-22 10:43:41 PM  

Hey Nurse!: My stepdaughter got approval for an emotional support animal. Of course, she wanted ferrets (which pretty much need another ferret or they become assholes - or so I'm told). Then she found out the regs at college say "emotional support animal" not "animals", so no she could not have ferrets in the dorm.. Amazing how fast her need for emotional support disappeared after that. Just sayin'


You can get an animal passport in Ireland for dogs, cats, and ferrets.

Why ferrets are on the list I don't know. Never known anyone with a ferret. But you can get them a passport.
 
Bat Galaxy  
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2020-01-22 10:43:54 PM  
Farking neurotypical people messing shiat up again for people with actual problems.

/Still pissed fidget spinners got banned from most classrooms because normal kids are assholes
//This seems much worse though
 
Gubbo [TotalFark] [OhFark]  
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2020-01-22 10:44:18 PM  

ChrisDe: Gubbo: I've travelled across the Atlantic and back with my dog, as well as a trip to a specialist vet for his eyes.

I will say that I've never been as stressed as when he was in the cargo hold. Worrying that he hadn't been loaded, about take off, landing, a strange and probably scary environment for him.

Hell I needed some emotional support for those flights.

/instead all I got was booze

Wild turkey is my emotional support animal.


TSA won't allow you to bring that one to the plane either
 
Blahbbs [OhFark]  
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2020-01-22 10:44:22 PM  

Wanton Pearl Clutchery: Dr.Fey: The whole thing was a stupid idea to begin with.  The Americans with Disabilities Act does not recognize nor provide any protection for emotional support animals in public accommodations.  Period.
You are not allowed to bring them into grocery stores, restaurants, etc...

Now, if an airline wants to allow dogs that are small enough to fit in a soft "crate" that fits under the seat in front of you like a carry-on, fine.  That's a business decision (and we took my gal's Maltese from California to NY and back doing so).  But allowing "from snakes to miniature horses, pigs, ducks, peacocks and turkeys" is just stupid.

And the majority of these folks don't really have an "emotional disability," they are abusing the system like getting a handicapped placard when you don't need one just so you can park closer.

I feel a strong agreement on your lesser point, which was the placard-thingie.  I had Guillain-Barré and as a result still have a bit of a hitch in my giddyup.  At the time, I had to use a wheelchair.  Just to be pissy, I guess, I would park a good couple of spots away and wrangle myself into the chair and out again because I didn't want to be there forever and it pissed me off to even have to be there temporarily.  It took a bit, but I got back to walking on my own, graduating from that gawdawful walker that my brother stuck a "bring bring" bell on and my husband festooned with tennis balls, because that's what you do.

The first time I made it to that gawddamned shopping cart at the very front row at the grocery store from where my husband had dutifully 'driven miss daisy' to get his sammich fixings and my tea, I was simultaneously exultant and disgusted.  I made my grade for sure, but this gal, high-stepping from the handicapped spot in her stilettos felt like some kind of kick in my (non-existent) nads.  WTF lady?  I earned those extra fifty feet and you can't be bothered to park one spot over.

I guess I may have placed a bit of my recuperative benchma ...


GBS looks like a real biatch.  I friend of mine has/had it.  I'm glad you're making what sounds like a good recovery.
 
Thong_of_Zardoz  
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2020-01-22 10:44:23 PM  

Hey Nurse!: My stepdaughter got approval for an emotional support animal. Of course, she wanted ferrets (which pretty much need another ferret or they become assholes - or so I'm told). Then she found out the regs at college say "emotional support animal" not "animals", so no she could not have ferrets in the dorm.. Amazing how fast her need for emotional support disappeared after that. Just sayin'


Good Christ, you do *not* want a ferret (or ferrets).
 
Jeebus Saves  
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2020-01-22 10:46:27 PM  

mikaloyd: Dr.Fey: And the majority of these folks don't really have an "emotional disability," they are abusing the system like getting a handicapped placard when you don't need one just so you can park closer.

Im not saying you are wrong but are there any published statistics on sane people simply pretending to be crazy so they can drag livestock around with them wherever they go?


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puckrock2000  
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2020-01-22 10:47:48 PM  

skinink: Wadded Beef: <ctrl-F> Bees.

Not found. Whew.

Neither are wasps! Now my problem is how to fit John Kerry into a paper nest.


Fun fact: Kerry is Catholic (his grandfather was an Austrian Jew, who changed his name and converted when he emigrated to Boston).
 
Excelsior  
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2020-01-22 10:48:18 PM  

aagrajag: kb7rky: I once worked for a non-emergent transportation service, taking people to and from medical appointments.

I had one customer try to tell me her three dogs were "emotional-support animals", and insisted they had to accompany her to her appointment. She also provided "credentials" and a signed paper from the doctor. These dogs growled and snapped at each other during the entire 10-minute trip to the doctor's office, despite being in pet carriers.

I told my boss afterward that she had faked the credentials for her farking family pets, and just wanted an excuse to take them everywhere with her. He said we weren't allowed to question things like this.

But why?

Why does he allow them to get away with this?


Americans with Disabilities Act:
https://www.ada.gov/regs2010/service_animal_qa.html

"Q7. What questions can a covered entity's employees ask to determine if a dog is a service animal?

A. In situations where it is not obvious that the dog is a service animal, staff may ask only two specific questions: (1) is the dog a service animal required because of a disability? and (2) what work or task has the dog been trained to perform? Staff are not allowed to request any documentation for the dog, require that the dog demonstrate its task, or inquire about the nature of the person's disability."

Given that there is no official certification or license to PROVE that an animal is a 'real' service animal, you pretty much have to take everyone at their word or risk getting sued for violating the Americans with Disabilities Act, which would be a far bigger headache than just letting grandma get away with sneaking in her pack of rabid emotional support great Danes.
 
Hey Nurse! [OhFark]  
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2020-01-22 10:49:50 PM  

Thong_of_Zardoz: Hey Nurse!: My stepdaughter got approval for an emotional support animal. Of course, she wanted ferrets (which pretty much need another ferret or they become assholes - or so I'm told). Then she found out the regs at college say "emotional support animal" not "animals", so no she could not have ferrets in the dorm.. Amazing how fast her need for emotional support disappeared after that. Just sayin'

Good Christ, you do *not* want a ferret (or ferrets).


well, I sure as fark don't - which is why I called the school and specifically asked what is and is not allowed. I knew those stupid giant rats would end up at my house one way or another after her emotional support needs were fulfilled by her next boyfriend (being dumped by the last Mr Right is what triggered this whole bs to begin with). There probably are legitimate needs for a very few people - but as subby pointed out, this whole thing has turned into a giant boondoggle.
 
YouPeopleAreCrazy  
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2020-01-22 10:50:57 PM  
Local NPR radio show a couple years ago, preparation for a hurricane:

Host and guest veterinarian:
Point:
It's good that all local shelters allow you to bring your pet.
Yes...our furry friends need to be taken care of as well.
high fives all around.

Counterpoint:
Caller: Hey...I'm allergic to pet dander. What shelter do I go to?

ooohhh...we didn't consider that.
 
aagrajag  
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2020-01-22 10:51:27 PM  

Excelsior: aagrajag: kb7rky: I once worked for a non-emergent transportation service, taking people to and from medical appointments.

I had one customer try to tell me her three dogs were "emotional-support animals", and insisted they had to accompany her to her appointment. She also provided "credentials" and a signed paper from the doctor. These dogs growled and snapped at each other during the entire 10-minute trip to the doctor's office, despite being in pet carriers.

I told my boss afterward that she had faked the credentials for her farking family pets, and just wanted an excuse to take them everywhere with her. He said we weren't allowed to question things like this.

But why?

Why does he allow them to get away with this?

Americans with Disabilities Act:
https://www.ada.gov/regs2010/service_animal_qa.html

"Q7. What questions can a covered entity's employees ask to determine if a dog is a service animal?

A. In situations where it is not obvious that the dog is a service animal, staff may ask only two specific questions: (1) is the dog a service animal required because of a disability? and (2) what work or task has the dog been trained to perform? Staff are not allowed to request any documentation for the dog, require that the dog demonstrate its task, or inquire about the nature of the person's disability."

Given that there is no official certification or license to PROVE that an animal is a 'real' service animal, you pretty much have to take everyone at their word or risk getting sued for violating the Americans with Disabilities Act, which would be a far bigger headache than just letting grandma get away with sneaking in her pack of rabid emotional support great Danes.


That's one hell of a loophole.

It's like a cop asking if the car you're driving is yours, then asking to see the registration, to which you can reply: "Nope!"
 
berylman  
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2020-01-22 10:51:40 PM  
I have emotional support intestinal bacteria. I take them everywhere. Not really an issue until I have a gaseous eruption at inopportune times
 
Charmin Mao Tse-Bung  
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2020-01-22 10:52:57 PM  

Thong_of_Zardoz: People who need to take their pets with them everywhere are douchebags, pure and simple.

The local hardware/sporting goods store has a sign that says instead of leaving your dogs in the car in the hot summer sun (a lot of people stop for last minute camping supplies), you can bring them into the store while you briefly shop.

Of course, every self-entitled douchebag takes that to mean "take all your dogs in the store for as long as you want at any time".

The place was like a farking zoo, even on cool days.

I think they actually had to stop doing this because of the problems it was causing, thus ruining it for people who legitimately needed it.


Our local farm store welcomes dogs. It's one of the places I took my beagle as a pup to help socialize him. As long as we stay away from the rabbits, he's just fine. It's probably his favorite place in the world because they have a free popcorn machine for the customers, and he knows there will be plenty dropped on the floor.

I wouldn't take him on an airplane though. The little shiatbird would drive me nuts.
 
Gubbo [TotalFark] [OhFark]  
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2020-01-22 10:53:53 PM  

YouPeopleAreCrazy: Local NPR radio show a couple years ago, preparation for a hurricane:

Host and guest veterinarian:
Point:
It's good that all local shelters allow you to bring your pet.
Yes...our furry friends need to be taken care of as well.
high fives all around.

Counterpoint:
Caller: Hey...I'm allergic to pet dander. What shelter do I go to?

ooohhh...we didn't consider that.


If someone is allergic to a specific soap or deodorant what do we do about it.

You're in a hurricane evacuation. Deal with it. Take your allergy pills that are supposed to be in your medical pack.

/you better believe that my dog is not being left to drown in a hurricane just cause you'll get a runny nose
 
Dr.Fey [TotalFark] [OhFark]  
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2020-01-22 10:55:26 PM  

kb7rky: She also provided "credentials" and a signed paper from the doctor. These dogs growled and snapped at each other during the entire 10-minute trip to the doctor's office, despite being in pet carriers.

I told my boss afterward that she had faked the credentials for her farking family pets, and just wanted an excuse to take them everywhere with her. He said we weren't allowed to question things like this.


The credentials may not have been faked, per se, because people can cajole their doctors into writing prescriptions for stuff they don't need, but want.  "Oh, I start trembling and feel dizzy when Muffy isn't nearby" is no harder than "Doc, I've been having serious insomnia" or "No, the pain hasn't gone away; it's still a level 8.  Please renew my prescription."  Doctors (including psychologists) generally have to rely on the truthfulness of their patient.

Hell, you register your ESA online at profit-generating websites like this one.

However - Your boss is wrong.  As I initially stated, the Americans with Disabilities Act does not recognize nor provide any protection for emotional support animals.  They are not classified as service animals, which are trained to assist the blind, the deaf, seizure prone, etc... and have received special training.

You are absolutely allowed to tell them, "no, you are not allowed to bring your emotional support animals."

mikaloyd: Im not saying you are wrong but are there any published statistics on sane people simply pretending to be crazy so they can drag livestock around with them wherever they go?


Sure!  Let me publish one for you:  100%  Nobody needs their pet.  If he or she cannot survive in the world without it, then that person needs to go to an institution.  (Okay, not really, I'm sure there are a few valid cases, but again, the only way to collect statistics is from the pet's owner's self-reporting.)

(By the by, I am not dissing therapy dogs, but no one pushes claims that they must be allowed to go in every public accommodation.)

The worst are the folks who buy these:

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...and you can register the animal as a service animal on-line as well.  You just have to ignore the small print that says "For a person to legally qualify to have a service dog, Federal Laws state that  he/she must be considered disabled and the dog must be trained to perform a task for them."  Make sure you include your credit card CCV!
 
chuggernaught  
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2020-01-22 10:56:44 PM  
Emotional Support Animals allowed on planes should be limited to:

You don't farking get one. Take a farking percocet like a farking normal person.
 
Russ1642  
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2020-01-22 10:59:24 PM  
If I can't take my emotional support bat on the plane who's gonna look after him while I'm away?

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Dr.Fey [TotalFark] [OhFark]  
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2020-01-22 11:02:04 PM  

ChrisDe: Wild turkey is my emotional support animal.


Gubbo: TSA won't allow you to bring that one to the plane either


Not true! Travelers may carry as many 3.4 ounce bottles of liquid (mini bottles of liquor are 1.7 ounces) that fit comfortably in one, quart sized, clear plastic, zip-top bag.  Comfortable means that the bag will seal without busting at the seams. One bag is permitted per passenger.

TSA is fine with it.  Now, the FFA has this rule:

§ 121.575 Alcoholic beverages.
(a) No person may drink any alcoholic beverage aboard an aircraft unless the certificate holder operating the aircraft has served that beverage to him.

So you can bring it on the plane, and either (1) keep it sealed, or (2) legally have it served to you (although the airline may have a rule that you have to buy from them), or (3) illegally sneakily pour it into your soda or other mixer or drink it straight in your cup of ice.
 
Dr.Fey [TotalFark] [OhFark]  
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2020-01-22 11:05:02 PM  

Excelsior: Given that there is no official certification or license to PROVE that an animal is a 'real' service animal, you pretty much have to take everyone at their word or risk getting sued for violating the Americans with Disabilities Act, which would be a far bigger headache than just letting grandma get away with sneaking in her pack of rabid emotional support great Danes.


aagrajag: That's one hell of a loophole.

It's like a cop asking if the car you're driving is yours, then asking to see the registration, to which you can reply: "Nope!"


Why don't people get this?  An emotional support animal is not a service animal.  The ADA says so.  If they tell you it's an ESA, tell them to fark off.
 
pup.socket  
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2020-01-22 11:08:16 PM  
Comfort animals still allowed on the  Lolita Express.
 
Bat Galaxy  
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2020-01-22 11:11:28 PM  

Dr.Fey: However - Your boss is wrong.  As I initially stated, the Americans with Disabilities Act does not recognize nor provide any protection for emotional support animals.  They are not classified as service animals, which are trained to assist the blind, the deaf, seizure prone, etc... and have received special training.

You are absolutely allowed to tell them, "no, you are not allowed to bring your emotional support animals."

mikaloyd: Im not saying you are wrong but are there any published statistics on sane people simply pretending to be crazy so they can drag livestock around with them wherever they go?

Sure!  Let me publish one for you:  100%  Nobody needs their pet.  If he or she cannot survive in the world without it, then that person needs to go to an institution.  (Okay, not really, I'm sure there are a few valid cases, but again, the only way to collect statistics is from the pet's owner's self-reporting.)

(By the by, I am not dissing therapy dogs, but no one pushes claims that they must be allowed to go in every public accommodation.)


If you're prone to extreme anxiety/panic attacks and a service dog helps mitigate that then it's perfectly valid and just about as necessary as an epileptic person's service dog.

/At least here in the US where being non-responsive and strange is a good way to get killed by the cops
//I'd say same for autistic people who have animals trained to help them with meltdowns, but pretty sure at that point they're actually service animals instead of emotional support animals
 
Terrapin Bound [TotalFark]  
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2020-01-22 11:16:00 PM  

Dr.Fey: TSA is fine with it.  Now, the FFA has this rule:

§ 121.575 Alcoholic beverages.
(a) No person may drink any alcoholic beverage aboard an aircraft unless the certificate holder operating the aircraft has served that beverage to him.


FFA?
I bet it will get even worse if 4H ever gets involved!
 
Gubbo [TotalFark] [OhFark]  
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2020-01-22 11:18:05 PM  

Dr.Fey: ChrisDe: Wild turkey is my emotional support animal.

Gubbo: TSA won't allow you to bring that one to the plane either

Not true! Travelers may carry as many 3.4 ounce bottles of liquid (mini bottles of liquor are 1.7 ounces) that fit comfortably in one, quart sized, clear plastic, zip-top bag.  Comfortable means that the bag will seal without busting at the seams. One bag is permitted per passenger.

TSA is fine with it.  Now, the FFA has this rule:

§ 121.575 Alcoholic beverages.
(a) No person may drink any alcoholic beverage aboard an aircraft unless the certificate holder operating the aircraft has served that beverage to him.

So you can bring it on the plane, and either (1) keep it sealed, or (2) legally have it served to you (although the airline may have a rule that you have to buy from them), or (3) illegally sneakily pour it into your soda or other mixer or drink it straight in your cup of ice.


I never see those mini bottles anywhere. Where do you get them
 
flondrix  
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2020-01-22 11:19:39 PM  

Dr.Fey: The whole thing was a stupid idea to begin with.  The Americans with Disabilities Act does not recognize nor provide any protection for emotional support animals in public accommodations.  Period.

You are not allowed to bring them into grocery stores, restaurants, etc...

Now, if an airline wants to allow dogs that are small enough to fit in a soft "crate" that fits under the seat in front of you like a carry-on, fine.  That's a business decision (and we took my gal's Maltese from California to NY and back doing so).  But allowing "from snakes to miniature horses, pigs, ducks, peacocks and turkeys" is just stupid.


I agree with you, with one caveat: miniature horses are the only animal besides dogs that the ADA recognizes as service animals. Emphasis on the miniature; they actually specify size and weight.
 
Dr.Fey [TotalFark] [OhFark]  
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2020-01-22 11:19:57 PM  
 

Bat Galaxy: If you're prone to extreme anxiety/panic attacks and a service dog helps mitigate that then it's perfectly valid and just about as necessary as an epileptic person's service dog.


Federal law (the ADA) says that if someone is considered disabled and the dog is trained to perform a task for them, a service dog must be permitted and accepted.

Glad we are on the same page.
 
waxbeans  
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2020-01-22 11:20:46 PM  

Dr.Fey: ]

...and you can register the animal as a service animal on-line as well.  You just have to ignore the small print that says "For a person to legally qualify to have a service dog, Federal Laws state that  he/she must be considered disabled and the dog must be trained to perform a task for them."  Make sure you include your credit card CCV!


Wait. So does the service have to be directly linked to the disability?🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐

Evil laugh 😈
 
waxbeans  
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2020-01-22 11:21:25 PM  

chuggernaught: Emotional Support Animals allowed on planes should be limited to:

You don't farking get one. Take a farking percocet like a farking normal person.


If only pills was easy to get.
 
dyhchong  
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2020-01-22 11:22:33 PM  
FTA: It would also limit the number of service animals per passenger to two and let airlines require service animals to be in a harness or leash.

Wait, some people actually had the farking nerve to claim more than two service animals?

And why two? Why not one? Who on earth has more than one legitimate service animal?

Even Helen Keller only had her cat, Mittens.
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BlazeTrailer  
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2020-01-22 11:24:07 PM  
I was at a nice restaurant where the family seated before us had a dog. We were told that they were told the woman was diabetic and this was a low blood glucose alert dog. I understand that is a legit thing (though I'm surprised it was needed with the family there). Regardless, our turn to be seated and they aim for the empty table next to that family. I asked that we not be seated next to a table with a dog sitting up at the table. They complied with that and put us somewhere else.
 
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