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(The College Fix)   Guess what word Michigan State has ordered its student employees not to say to students because it's triggering? No, not is. You wouldn't get very far in life not saying is. The correct answer is "But"   (thecollegefix.com) divider line
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Urmuf Hamer [TotalFark]  
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2019-08-17 5:09:43 PM  
But stuff. It is extremely difficult to avoid. Lots of valid reasons to do so, and to avoid being bored or boring are just two of them. Unless you like that sort of thing. NTTAWWT. Fark is my personal erotica web site.
/slashy
//clichés
///three
 
WTFDYW [TotalFark]  
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2019-08-17 5:15:49 PM  
But fark them.

I apologize for saying but
 
optikeye [TotalFark]  
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2019-08-17 5:25:31 PM  
I've always heard this for lots of situations and about 'manners'.
I'm not racist, but......
etc.
And in customer service, you don't want to hear about "Sorry we farked up, but....."
 
2019-08-17 5:31:18 PM  
Yes, very silly of MSU. The good news is that private employers never tell their employees which words to use and which they should avoid.
 
enry [TotalFark]  
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2019-08-17 5:38:06 PM  
These are some of the trigger words that Michigan State tells student employees to avoid, according to a presentation documented by Campus Reform.

Ah.  So it's probably bullshiat.
 
2019-08-17 5:43:35 PM  
Anything that calls itself "Original. Student reported. Your daily dose of right-minded news and commentary from across the nation" is certainly gonna be telling it like it is.  Especially articles written by this student reporter:

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2019-08-17 5:49:42 PM  
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RaceDTruck [TotalFark] [OhFark]  
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2019-08-17 6:15:33 PM  

WTFDYW: But fark them.

I apologize for saying but


No problem
 
2019-08-17 7:02:29 PM  
I said what what?
 
2019-08-17 7:03:53 PM  
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2019-08-17 7:04:31 PM  

enry: These are some of the trigger words that Michigan State tells student employees to avoid, according to a presentation documented by Campus Reform.

Ah.  So it's probably bullshiat.


Exactly.

It's interesting that the headline for the original source (which I'd never heard of but is clearly batshiat insane in itself) is that the campus suggests employees avoid these terms, while the linked article referring that source says they are being ordered not to use them.  So a crackpot site makes a report to scare us over how those damn liberals are trying to change the way we act, and now Fark is linking to another crackpot site that is doubling down on the scare tactics.

This sounds more like a college brought in a diversity consultant to talk to their employees for an hour, and now folks want to use that to scare us into thinking we can no longer use certain words.
 
Wendigogo [TotalFark]  
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2019-08-17 7:06:31 PM  
Almost everything about this article is ridiculous, BUT I have no problem saying "you're welcome" to avoid implying the customer is an inconvenience to me.
 
Mouren  
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2019-08-17 7:07:02 PM  
https://www.thecollegefix.com/about/alumni/

Yeah, no bias whatsoever on that site, lol.
 
Dafatone  
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2019-08-17 7:07:39 PM  
Employer tells its public-facing employees best practices for language to use when dealing with clients.

The horror, the horror.
 
Boojum2k [TotalFark]  
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2019-08-17 7:08:00 PM  
Just say "however" in its place, it sounds both more polite and more thoughtful.
 
2019-08-17 7:11:03 PM  

Dafatone: Employer tells its public-facing employees best practices for language to use when dealing with clients.

The horror, the horror.


At my job we are supposed to answer our phones with our division and name rather than hello.  That way a person is perfectly clear on who they are speaking to before passing on confidential information.  If collegefix finds out about this they are probably going to run an article about how the liberals are ordering us not to say hello to one another.
 
EdgeRunner [OhFark]  
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2019-08-17 7:11:12 PM  
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"Hi everyone! To avoid any offense or embarrassment, from now on please call me Dick Booty, Weiner Bottom, or Penis N. Anus! Thanks!"
 
2019-08-17 7:13:42 PM  

AliceBToklasLives: Yes, very silly of MSU. The good news is that private employers never tell their employees which words to use and which they should avoid.


Good lord I am SO tired of customer service employees robotically reciting scripts when they talk to me. I'd rather have an actual robot.  Spreading it into public service is not good.  Not tyrannical, but not good.
 
2019-08-17 7:15:42 PM  
The College Fix: Basically a bunch of whiners who are resentful about having to live by the same standards of conduct that they've been imposing on everyone else forever.
 
Raoul Eaton  
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2019-08-17 7:16:25 PM  

Raoul Eaton: AliceBToklasLives: Yes, very silly of MSU. The good news is that private employers never tell their employees which words to use and which they should avoid.

Good lord I am SO tired of customer service employees robotically reciting scripts when they talk to me. I'd rather have an actual robot.  Spreading it into public service is not good.  Not tyrannical, but not good.


And then I read a little more and realize the article is bullshiat.
 
evilsofa  
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2019-08-17 7:16:39 PM  
'A gentleman of breeding should not begin a sentence with the unfortunate word "but".' -Iain M. Banks, Use Of Weapons
 
litmik [TotalFark]  
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2019-08-17 7:19:41 PM  
But...her emails!
 
cretinbob [TotalFark] [OhFark]  
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2019-08-17 7:21:29 PM  
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2019-08-17 7:22:20 PM  
I'd have to see the guidelines to judge. 15 or do years ago I. A "corporate communications" seminar they told us to avoid using "but" is emails because it diminishes everything in the sentence prior to the "but".

/the also taugbt us to try to avoid saying "fix" or "correct" and instead use "update".
 
2019-08-17 7:23:52 PM  

big pig peaches: I'd have to see the guidelines to judge. 15 or do years ago I. A "corporate communications" seminar they told us to avoid using "but" is emails because it diminishes everything in the sentence prior to the "but".

/the also taugbt us to try to avoid saying "fix" or "correct" and instead use "update".


Fortunately I have a full size keyboard and a decent autocorrect when I send emails.
 
2019-08-17 7:26:39 PM  
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hlehmann  
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2019-08-17 7:27:36 PM  

Mouren: https://www.thecollegefix.com/about/alumni/

Yeah, no bias whatsoever on that site, lol.


At least half the staff has worked at the Washing Examiner, so you know the whole operation is a bunch of lying shiatweasels.
 
brb5f  
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2019-08-17 7:29:09 PM  
Time for a rewrite of how we teach our children then..

And because Farj doesn't like the link youtube . be/RPoBE-E8VOc
 
EdgeRunner [OhFark]  
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2019-08-17 7:31:12 PM  

litmik: But...her emails!


Trigger word, gender biased pronouns, entirely unacceptable. From now on, please say "However, Hillary's e-correspondences".
 
Pichu0102  
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2019-08-17 7:41:41 PM  
Your blog sucks.
 
dkulprit  
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2019-08-17 7:42:59 PM  

enry: These are some of the trigger words that Michigan State tells student employees to avoid, according to a presentation documented by Campus Reform.

Ah.  So it's probably bullshiat.


Yeah, at first I thought "wtf" then I saw the OP.  That doesn't even mention the "but" thing.  In fact it's mainly don't say "no problem," not because it's triggering but because the correct response is "you're welcome."  The non-surprising thing about this is the amount of right wingers I've heard complain about saying "no problem" instead of "you're welcome."

But when a "liberal" college says not to say that it's those stupid libs.  The hypocrisy continues.

Then the rest of the article is about how these stupid lefties are asking people to not misgender people.


And no actual words dedicated to "but" being triggered.  But that is not surprising from 2 right leaning media outlets playing telephone.
 
nanim  
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2019-08-17 7:44:40 PM  
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Jgok [OhFark]  
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2019-08-17 7:44:56 PM  
Pretty much every bit of that was part of the training when I worked in a call center 20 years ago.
 
SwiftFox  
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2019-08-17 7:44:58 PM  
It reminds persons who don't like the fact that things have consequential results that have to be considered.
 
Chuck87  
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2019-08-17 7:45:22 PM  
You know what is triggering to some Americans?  Immigrants in America speaking a foreign language.  They should add that.
 
2019-08-17 7:45:52 PM  
1. "You can expose more liberal attacks on freedom on college campuses. Find out how »" So there's a very good chance this whole story is either invented out of whole cloth or grossly misrepresented.

2. As a dang liberal Democrat-Party-voting dang libby lib, I assure you that the ludicrous bullshiat described in the article is not a "liberal attack on freedom," it's an attack by idiotic pointy-haired-bosses on reason and the English language.
 
2019-08-17 7:45:58 PM  
Wait until they hear that Chik-fil-a doesn't let their employees say "You're welcome".
 
dkulprit  
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2019-08-17 7:46:04 PM  

Maybe you should drive: Dafatone: Employer tells its public-facing employees best practices for language to use when dealing with clients.

The horror, the horror.

At my job we are supposed to answer our phones with our division and name rather than hello.  That way a person is perfectly clear on who they are speaking to before passing on confidential information.  If collegefix finds out about this they are probably going to run an article about how the liberals are ordering us not to say hello to one another.


Article about your place of business from these 2 outlets after hearing this.

"Place of employment tells employees to not say 'hello' when answering the phones because it's triggering"
 
2019-08-17 7:46:19 PM  
lol, no

This isnt' the direction the language we used is going.  Sorry MSU, but this ain't gonna happen.  I apologize if this might be difficult to accept.
 
2019-08-17 7:49:13 PM  
"Heinie", "keister", and "tushie" remain acceptable.
 
2019-08-17 7:50:38 PM  

dkulprit: In fact it's mainly don't say "no problem," not because it's triggering but because the correct response is "you're welcome."


If someone gives me shiat about "no problem," well, now there's a farking problem, so I guess they win. Can't promise they'll enjoy their prize though.
 
WTFDYW [TotalFark]  
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2019-08-17 7:50:47 PM  

Maybe you should drive: enry: These are some of the trigger words that Michigan State tells student employees to avoid, according to a presentation documented by Campus Reform.

Ah.  So it's probably bullshiat.

Exactly.

It's interesting that the headline for the original source (which I'd never heard of but is clearly batshiat insane in itself) is that the campus suggests employees avoid these terms, while the linked article referring that source says they are being ordered not to use them.  So a crackpot site makes a report to scare us over how those damn liberals are trying to change the way we act, and now Fark is linking to another crackpot site that is doubling down on the scare tactics.

This sounds more like a college brought in a diversity consultant to talk to their employees for an hour, and now folks want to use that to scare us into thinking we can no longer use certain words.


But it's not working.

Penis
 
2019-08-17 7:51:52 PM  

Raoul Eaton: Raoul Eaton: AliceBToklasLives: Yes, very silly of MSU. The good news is that private employers never tell their employees which words to use and which they should avoid.

Good lord I am SO tired of customer service employees robotically reciting scripts when they talk to me. I'd rather have an actual robot.  Spreading it into public service is not good.  Not tyrannical, but not good.

And then I read a little more and realize the article is bullshiat.


Yeah, more I think about it it does sound like bullshiat.

CSB: I used to work at a call center and we had to follow scripts. Sometimes the scripts used poor grammar, odd wording or simply could not account for everything a caller might say. So I would alter the wording slightly because I was talking to, you know, humans.

Nope. Not allowed to change the script. I got written up. From then on I followed the scripts exactly as written, even when they had little to do with what the customer was saying. It was quite entertaining; so much confusion on the other side of the line. I'd be asked not to repeat something or directly answer the damn question and even if I was a robot. Nope. I just repeated the script and if the script didn't answer the question they didn't get an answer. Good times.
 
Gyrfalcon  
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2019-08-17 7:52:36 PM  
Reading the guidelines on the actual article is almost as annoying as the blog. It sounds like they found a "language sensitivity " professional with a fresh new degree who wanted to trot out all his new theories. One of his slides apparently has a black student holding a sign saying "why is my skin color threatening"?

I doubt this will last too long.
 
jaytkay [OhFark]  
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2019-08-17 7:54:36 PM  
*click"*
*Sees conservative manufactured outrage*

Chrome -> History -> "College Fix" -> Delete
 
Snarfangel [TotalFark]  
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2019-08-17 7:57:16 PM  

Raymond Perjurytrap: Anything that calls itself "Original. Student reported. Your daily dose of right-minded news and commentary from across the nation" is certainly gonna be telling it like it is.  Especially articles written by this student reporter:


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2019-08-17 8:07:25 PM  

Raoul Eaton: AliceBToklasLives: Yes, very silly of MSU. The good news is that private employers never tell their employees which words to use and which they should avoid.

Good lord I am SO tired of customer service employees robotically reciting scripts when they talk to me. I'd rather have an actual robot.  Spreading it into public service is not good.  Not tyrannical, but not good.


When I worked at Blockbuster (ask your parents, kids) they required us to address customers by name. I hate when that shiat is done to me so whenever there wasn't a manager around I simply didn't do it. And when I became assistant manager I made it clear to everyone working with me that they didn't have to do it.
 
2019-08-17 8:09:40 PM  
Watch us as we become a feudal society and adapt the language patterns of China, also a feudal society.

Wouldn't want to trigger a shooter, would we?

 
Mock26  
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2019-08-17 8:10:35 PM  
I really hope I am dead before all of these triggered youngsters grow up and are running this country. I hate the thought of living in this country with a President who would get triggered at the mere use of common words... Oh crap. Too late.
 
2019-08-17 8:10:39 PM  

Raoul Eaton: AliceBToklasLives: Yes, very silly of MSU. The good news is that private employers never tell their employees which words to use and which they should avoid.

Good lord I am SO tired of customer service employees robotically reciting scripts when they talk to me. I'd rather have an actual robot.  Spreading it into public service is not good.  Not tyrannical, but not good.


It can actually be worse/hillarious.

Way back when, deep in the mists of time I was a phone monkey... er ... customer service rep for a couple of years.  I swear, a good 40% of the calls I'd take at home, when hanging up/saying goodbye I'd recite the trite little phrase we were supposed to close with.

Only recently have some members of my family decided that I'm not brain damaged.

/most still consider me stupid though... alas
//saw your follow-up, but this one was better to quote
 
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