You know, if Trump wants to build a big beautiful wall, I can think of a place to put it where it might actually do some good.

But since his ass isn't that yuge, why not build it around Florida? Keep the water at bay for half a century, it might even pay for itself.

One of the reasons why the super-rich build or buy in Florida is to take advantage of Florida laws which mayke it really hard for creditors to get their hands on real estate. Trump and a lot of other famous bankrupts have a place in Florida as a hedge against creditors. I imagine a lot of this trade would continue to attract big money until the foundations crumble and the super-rich have to find a tax have that is a bit further off shore than the average island or sand bar. In the right direction--inland and uphill.

Oddly enough, Delaware is one of the biggest tax havens and it is no more off-shore than Florida, and most of it is if anything lower that bits of Florida.

However, if you want a global warming proof tax haven, I think you would be hard put to beat Austria or Switzerland. Because they are quite a ways inland and uphill with respect to most of the world's money.

If you want to know the truth of what is real and what is denialism, check with an actuary for an insurance company. They gave up insuring most of Florida years ago, especially the Keys.

Storm surge insurance? They're happy to sell you flood insurance because floods don't do the damage--it's the storm surge during hurricanes. As far as insurance companies are concerned, the first ten or twenty feet of water is free.

itcamefromschenectady: Random Anonymous Blackmail: ....burning coal and building waterfront real estate...

So buy a Tesla, your electric vehicle powered by coal

So don't buy a Tesla if you live in West Virginia. Nobody does there anyway. I live in NY state, where virtually none of the electricity comes from coal. It's mostly nuclear, hydro, or renewable, and the rest is natural gas.

Ontario and Quebec get most of their electricity from nuclear power plants and hydroelectric dams or run-of-river turbines. That's why the Electric Company is called Hydro and your electric bill is called Hydro. When Canadians think of electricity, they think of hydro-electric generation, not coal.

That's why people who want to offset their carbon consumption buy electricity from "green" providers. The electricity is fungible, but buying it from a "green" provider means you encourage green production, although the electricity for all the producers travel through the same wires.

In Canada your bills are broken down into several items, for the power itself, the the transmission, and so forth so that companies can compete for your business. But the giant electrical network is shared and owned by a different company from the little picayune power plants and the big producers like the nuclear reactors.  It's a bit "virtual" but it makes economic sense because buying your electricity from Bullfrog, say, encourages investment in better cleaner production without the little producers having to compete directly with the big vested money in the form of the grid or giant producers and giant users who get large discounts on the cost of their electricity compared to small businesses who buy retail or domestic household customers.

Isn't modern economics amazing? They can build towers from the roof down, or sell you the airspace over a cathedral to build in across town where height limits are not restricted. You can even buy carbon offsets so you can fly with a clean conscience if you are rich enough to pay the carbon taxes and surcharges.

wesmon: brantgoose: One of the reasons why the super-rich build or buy in Florida is to take advantage of Florida laws which mayke it really hard for creditors to get their hands on real estate. Trump and a lot of other famous bankrupts have a place in Florida as a hedge against creditors. I imagine a lot of this trade would continue to attract big money until the foundations crumble and the super-rich have to find a tax have that is a bit further off shore than the average island or sand bar. In the right direction--inland and uphill.

Oddly enough, Delaware is one of the biggest tax havens and it is no more off-shore than Florida, and most of it is if anything lower that bits of Florida.

However, if you want a global warming proof tax haven, I think you would be hard put to beat Austria or Switzerland. Because they are quite a ways inland and uphill with respect to most of the world's money.

I don't know about the tax havens, but apparently the rich are buying up land in New Zealand to escape the oncoming catastrophe.

New Zealand. A great place to retire, I hear. Seriously, follow the money. You might be able to buy a farm and ka-ching, pay for your retirement, or failing that, eat lamb at the price of tofu.