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(Patheos)   Priest at a funeral: a) Tells the parents and the friend of the deceased what a great guy he was, b) Tries to comfort the survivors, or c) Says he's farking roasting in Hell and keeps on going after dad tells him to stop   (patheos.com) divider line
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scottydoesntknow [TotalFark]  
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2018-12-15 11:14:50 AM  

naughtyrev: Whole thing sounds like a sh*t show.


Even the article was a sh*t show. Don't they have editors there?

/It's amazing how religion can make people act like assholes and think they're being righteous
 
edmo [TotalFark] [OhFark]  
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2018-12-15 11:17:46 AM  
I never thought the priests would eat my son's face.
 
swaniefrmreddeer [TotalFark]  
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2018-12-15 11:18:23 AM  
Why is that wrong if it's what they believe? You would have to be a giant hypocrite to pretend that the kid is going to heaven while all the Catholic teachings say otherwise. I'm no bible expert, but I don't recall anywhere in it where god says just pick and choose whatever you want to believe if it makes you feel better.
 
sozelle  
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2018-12-15 11:28:42 AM  
By Gawd, i luv me sum Gawd.
 
grokca [TotalFark]  
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2018-12-15 11:29:17 AM  
Again? How many times is this guy going to get away with this?
 
jayhawk88  
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2018-12-15 11:30:21 AM  

naughtyrev: Whole thing sounds like a sh*t show.


Man you ain't kidding. A coach went and got himself fired from being a coach because he went to a funeral he knew he wasn't welcome at and talked smack about it later, and this is the secondary story.
 
WandofFrost  
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2018-12-15 11:31:21 AM  
The priest is probably right.
 
Marcus Aurelius [TotalFark] [OhFark]  
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2018-12-15 11:32:55 AM  

jayhawk88: naughtyrev: Whole thing sounds like a sh*t show.

Man you ain't kidding. A coach went and got himself fired from being a coach because he went to a funeral he knew he wasn't welcome at and talked smack about it later, and this is the secondary story.


We can only take one dick at a time, apparently.
 
tjsands1118  
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2018-12-15 11:35:49 AM  
I'm not saying the priest isn't an asshole, but these people are stupid. If they were catholic they'd know suicide is like the #1 sin. Use to be they wouldn't let people who committed suicide be buried in the catholic cemetery.

Against, I'm not saying religion isn't bullshiat, but I'm pretty sure the catholic church has clear there is a bottom on how low someone can go and still get into heavan, and they must ask for forgiveness and repent, neither of which a person can do after killing themselves, so it's a one way ticket to hell in their eyes.
 
Marcus Aurelius [TotalFark] [OhFark]  
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2018-12-15 11:37:42 AM  

naughtyrev: Suicide isn't explicitly condemned in the Bible. Hell, Samson killed himself and is considered a hero. Saul wasn't condemned for his, either. Really the only person who potentially was was Judas, and I think there are plenty of reasons that could be viewed as a condemnation of the man versus the act.


Jesus purposely avoided not dying, instead choosing suicide by cop.  Is suicide by cop OK with this priest?
 
jayhawk88  
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2018-12-15 11:40:13 AM  
Also, I love that THE FATHER OF THE DECEASED went up to the priest MID SERMON and told him to knock it off, and the priest is like "So anyway Maison's in hell..."
 
sozelle  
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2018-12-15 11:45:49 AM  

swaniefrmreddeer: Why is that wrong if it's what they believe? You would have to be a giant hypocrite to pretend that the kid is going to heaven while all the Catholic teachings say otherwise. I'm no bible expert, but I don't recall anywhere in it where god says just pick and choose whatever you want to believe if it makes you feel better.


Have you read the Bible? It's full of contradictions, beginning at the very start:

Gen1-2:4 is completely different from Gen2:5ff.

Jesus says in Mark and Luke, "anyone who divorces his wife commits adultery." But Matthew gives him an extra-added caveat, "...except for marital unfaithfulness."

Exodus 20: Do not covet your neighbor's wife" (I can covet my neighbors husband) AND Do not commit adultery (polygamy and concubines are great)

Exodus 20: Is it do not murder, or do not kill? (Killing is not identical to murder; Also, capital punishment and slaughtering the Amalekites is fine.)
 
swaniefrmreddeer [TotalFark]  
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2018-12-15 11:47:39 AM  

naughtyrev: swaniefrmreddeer: Why is that wrong if it's what they believe? You would have to be a giant hypocrite to pretend that the kid is going to heaven while all the Catholic teachings say otherwise. I'm no bible expert, but I don't recall anywhere in it where god says just pick and choose whatever you want to believe if it makes you feel better.

Suicide isn't explicitly condemned in the Bible. Hell, Samson killed himself and is considered a hero. Saul wasn't condemned for his, either. Really the only person who potentially was was Judas, and I think there are plenty of reasons that could be viewed as a condemnation of the man versus the act.


The Catholic Church views it as self murder, so if you mortality wound yourself and beg for forgiveness before you die, you get heaven, you kill yourself instantly, you get hell. It's a common view in religious communities that mental illness is not a psychological problem but a spiritual problem.
 
sozelle  
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2018-12-15 11:48:25 AM  
^And those examples are just off the top of my head, and I'm no Bible scholar, either.
 
sozelle  
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2018-12-15 11:50:38 AM  

scottydoesntknow: naughtyrev: Whole thing sounds like a sh*t show.

Even the article was a sh*t show. Don't they have editors there?

/It's amazing how religion can make people act like assholes and think they're being righteous


Righteous Assholes is the name of my Butthole Surfers cover band.
 
Marcus Aurelius [TotalFark] [OhFark]  
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2018-12-15 11:52:18 AM  

swaniefrmreddeer: The Catholic Church views it as self murder, so if you mortality wound yourself and beg for forgiveness before you die, you get heaven, you kill yourself instantly, you get hell


That was a loophole created to let Jesus off the hook.  Pure Calvinball.
 
Benevolent Misanthrope [TotalFark] [OhFark]  
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2018-12-15 12:11:56 PM  
they've pledged not to return to the church where their son's funeral took place.

Because we all know problem priests never get transferred...
 
Benevolent Misanthrope [TotalFark] [OhFark]  
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2018-12-15 12:13:31 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: swaniefrmreddeer: The Catholic Church views it as self murder, so if you mortality wound yourself and beg for forgiveness before you die, you get heaven, you kill yourself instantly, you get hell

That was a loophole created to let Jesus off the hook.  Pure Calvinball.


It's religion. It's all Calvinball.
 
Marcus Aurelius [TotalFark] [OhFark]  
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2018-12-15 12:15:40 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: they've pledged not to return to the church where their son's funeral took place.

Because we all know problem priests never get transferred...


It will all come down to how his performance affected the collection plate.
 
HighlanderRPI  
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2018-12-15 12:25:40 PM  
An we turn to PA Chapter 1:9-23

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Coelacanth  
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2018-12-15 12:45:49 PM  
Religion should go the way of the buggy whip.
 
MaudlinMutantMollusk [OhFark]  
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2018-12-15 1:02:59 PM  
Punch a priest for Jesus
 
Noah_Tall [TotalFark]  
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2018-12-15 1:34:17 PM  

swaniefrmreddeer: The Catholic Church views it as self murder


Which is a completely ridiculous interpretation. All of the commandments are prohibitions against doing something to somebody else.  If somebody insists that suicide is self murder then I will tell them that charity is sinning because depriving yourself of money and getting nothing in return is self theft.
 
Msol [TotalFark] [OhFark]  
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2018-12-15 1:35:40 PM  
The bit with the coach is hilarious. Comments on one of the articles say he shouldn't lose his job because he had a winning record, and that everyone is a snowflake.
 
Some Junkie Cosmonaut  
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2018-12-15 1:36:13 PM  

Noah_Tall: swaniefrmreddeer: The Catholic Church views it as self murder

Which is a completely ridiculous interpretation. All of the commandments are prohibitions against doing something to somebody else.  If somebody insists that suicide is self murder then I will tell them that charity is sinning because depriving yourself of money and getting nothing in return is self theft.


Ah!  You've invented prosperity gospel - good work.
 
JustLookin  
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2018-12-15 1:38:20 PM  
What a bunch of farking assholes (priest and coach.). Can two be a bunch?
 
jayfurr [OhFark]  
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2018-12-15 1:39:17 PM  

sozelle: swaniefrmreddeer: Why is that wrong if it's what they believe? You would have to be a giant hypocrite to pretend that the kid is going to heaven while all the Catholic teachings say otherwise. I'm no bible expert, but I don't recall anywhere in it where god says just pick and choose whatever you want to believe if it makes you feel better.

Have you read the Bible? It's full of contradictions, beginning at the very start:

Gen1-2:4 is completely different from Gen2:5ff.

Jesus says in Mark and Luke, "anyone who divorces his wife commits adultery." But Matthew gives him an extra-added caveat, "...except for marital unfaithfulness."

Exodus 20: Do not covet your neighbor's wife" (I can covet my neighbors husband) AND Do not commit adultery (polygamy and concubines are great)

Exodus 20: Is it do not murder, or do not kill? (Killing is not identical to murder; Also, capital punishment and slaughtering the Amalekites is fine.)


The Amalekites had it coming.  Buncha methheads, blasting their music at all hours of the day and night
 
LewDux [OhFark]  
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2018-12-15 1:40:08 PM  
"You started it"
"We didn't!"
"Yes you did, you impregnated your wife"
 
BolshyGreatYarblocks  
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2018-12-15 1:40:23 PM  
As a white guy, I'm getting a kick out of this.  Flipistanis gonna Flip.  I have nevermet a male Filipino who wasn't off somehow: drink, drugs, anger or a combination of these.

The bullying coach was a nice touch.  A country where sports matter more than learning has played a big role in making Muricuh the shiathole it is.
 
Erik_Emune  
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2018-12-15 1:43:36 PM  
CSB: My great-great-granduncle was a preacher in a fishing community ("Harboøre") on the west coast of Denmark. The North Sea is not a user-friendly ocean, and one specific storm claimed the lives of 26 fishermen. He gave a funeral sermon with fire and brimstone as was his way, and a visiting journalist from Copenhagen ran with the story, embellishing it a bit along the way. The story set off a bit of a national schism, leading to the West Jutland  communities finding their own cultural identity, starting their own newspapers etc. - and earned my sort-of-ancestor the moniker "The Harboøre Hell-preacher".
 
TheLogicAvenger  
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2018-12-15 1:45:00 PM  

edmo: I never thought the priests would eat my son's face.


No, those were mountain lions.  Easy mistake to make since they both have the little white patch in the front.

The best way to tell for certain os to set a little boy down near them and see which end they go for.
 
KaneTheMediocre  
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2018-12-15 1:46:40 PM  
If only there were some sort of service the priest were involved in, that could be disrupted in retaliation.  Perhaps something with a regular schedule for repetition.
 
Corn_Fed  
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2018-12-15 1:47:05 PM  

BolshyGreatYarblocks: As a white guy, I'm getting a kick out of this.  Flipistanis gonna Flip.  I have nevermet a male Filipino who wasn't off somehow: drink, drugs, anger or a combination of these.



You sound more than merely "off" yourself.
 
tlchwi02  
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2018-12-15 1:48:23 PM  

swaniefrmreddeer: Why is that wrong if it's what they believe? You would have to be a giant hypocrite to pretend that the kid is going to heaven while all the Catholic teachings say otherwise. I'm no bible expert, but I don't recall anywhere in it where god says just pick and choose whatever you want to believe if it makes you feel better.


That hasn't been true since the 1960s. They updated the cathecism to take a softer view as depression and mental illness became more understood this guy was way out of line with the modern church teachings.
 
dryknife  
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2018-12-15 1:48:27 PM  
Should have paid for the special dispensation from the Church.
 
fugitivepope  
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2018-12-15 1:49:06 PM  
The eulogy at my grandmother's funeral at a "mega big screen auditorium church (my mother lost the battle with her uber-fundy sisters) included, "... the Pharisees, like the Democrats of today ..." If it wasn't my grandma's funeral I would have stood up and gone ballistic ... sorry I didn't do it anyway.
 
tjfly  
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2018-12-15 1:51:49 PM  
"Love is kind" preacher.
That wasn't loving.

It's like the Catholic Church is doing everything in its power to die off.
 
Literally Addicted [recently expired TotalFark]  
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2018-12-15 1:51:54 PM  
It's one thing to believe that, it's another thing entirely to rub the parents' noses in it.

The priest was an asshole.
 
Super_pope  
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2018-12-15 1:52:21 PM  
They're catholic so I think it's only fair to assume especially from the weeping boy attendees that this guy was floating over the damage he did to a kid he'd raped repeatedly for years, to his other victims.
 
MrKrantz  
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2018-12-15 1:52:36 PM  

swaniefrmreddeer: Why is that wrong if it's what they believe? You would have to be a giant hypocrite to pretend that the kid is going to heaven while all the Catholic teachings say otherwise. I'm no bible expert, but I don't recall anywhere in it where god says just pick and choose whatever you want to believe if it makes you feel better.


1) Perhaps the parents aren't overlooking how their son died. Maybe they wanted to celebrate the short life they had with their son.
2) Picking and choosing (and self-interpreting) out of the Bible is how all believers live their lives.
3) The preacher was a piece of schitt.
 
Super_pope  
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2018-12-15 1:52:40 PM  

Super_pope: They're catholic so I think it's only fair to assume especially from the weeping boy attendees that this guy was floating over the damage he did to a kid he'd raped repeatedly for years, to his other victims.


Gloating
 
Gyrfalcon  
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2018-12-15 1:53:01 PM  
Suicide was not a sin in early Christianity. That was a doctrine of Augustine, struggling to reconcile the conflicting messages of the Old and New Testaments.

In the early Church, the number of martyrs who killed themselves rather than submit to conversion to paganism was getting out of hand, and if Earth was hell and Paradise awaited then there was no reason not to end one's life; so Augustine and other Church fathers put forward the idea that self-murder was the gravest of sins, a betrayal of god.

It simply doesn't exist outside that context.
 
Louisiana_Sitar_Club [TotalFark]  
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2018-12-15 1:53:03 PM  
"In addition, he has agreed to pursue the assistance he needs in order to become a more effective minister in these difficult situations."

But think of what this incident say about him as a person.  The fact that he would do what he did betrays a lack of empathy so profound that he should find something else to do for a living.
 
MDI_BugMan  
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2018-12-15 1:55:49 PM  

BolshyGreatYarblocks: As a white guy, I'm getting a kick out of this.  Flipistanis gonna Flip.  I have nevermet a male Filipino who wasn't off somehow: drink, drugs, anger or a combination of these.



I think you forgot the official "I'm not racist, but..." preface to that comment
 
Smoking GNU [TotalFark]  
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2018-12-15 1:56:07 PM  

scottydoesntknow: naughtyrev: Whole thing sounds like a sh*t show.

Even the article was a sh*t show. Don't they have editors there?

/It's amazing how religion can make people act like assholes and think they're being righteous


Isn't that what religion is *for*?
 
flamark [TotalFark] [OhFark]  
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2018-12-15 1:56:46 PM  
I had a friend commit suicide years ago. He was a real "shady" character. Got busted for bringing a barge of pot up the Mississippi River. He had many friends and among them was a group of bikers. During the funeral, the priest pretty much did the same thing describing him as a bad man and burning in hell. The bikers nearly killed that priest. Fun funeral.
 
Circusdog320 [TotalFark] [OhFark]  
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2018-12-15 1:57:47 PM  
I went to a Catholic Christmas children's Mass...where they gear it for kids and reenact the manger scene. The priest spoke about abortion.


Haven't been back. My wife, raised Catholic hasn't been back. No plans to go back...ever.
 
studman68  
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2018-12-15 1:58:24 PM  
No, you bought into this religion. He's burning in hell. The "truth" hurts, amirite?
 
SirDigbyChickenCaesar  
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2018-12-15 1:58:44 PM  
My ex wife (catholic) and me (nothing) we're going to have her family priest do the baptism. Personally i couldn't care less but whatevs cant hurt to hedge your bets.

He told me, and i quote " i cannot baptise a bastard" and went on about how we had damned him.  We were politely asked to leave when i May have said atleast he will be safe from rape now.
 
MORB  
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2018-12-15 2:01:29 PM  

swaniefrmreddeer: Why is that wrong if it's what they believe? You would have to be a giant hypocrite to pretend that the kid is going to heaven while all the Catholic teachings say otherwise. I'm no bible expert, but I don't recall anywhere in it where god says just pick and choose whatever you want to believe if it makes you feel better.


except that catholicism IS an utterly hypocrite religion and they DO pick which part of the bible they want to believe in
 
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