way south: brilett: Sure. But there's like three on the road.

And lobbyists are right now pushing a bill to remove states ability to legislatie these things and to remove safety standards.


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There's quite a few more than three. Probably over a hundred since everyone's getting into the game.
Since the average driver has an accident every 160,000 miles and google claims their cars have driven over four million miles, two fatalities and a few fender benders isn't that alarming.
Especially if the self driving cars are just as often not at fault, merely a victim of bad human drivers.

Politicians and industries are fighting for this because it represents a massive revoltion in transportation. It's a trillion dollar business opportunity and they all want the keys. The first ones to market will get to define a lot of how this works out.
They probably are considering the problem of safety, but they're also in a rush to get the vehicles out there, and that means corners will be cut at some point.

ol' gormsby: Evil Twin Skippy:

I thought you were dead?

NephilimNexus: Since 1945, there have been over 30,000 deaths per year in the USA due to human driven cars.

If computer driven cars can lower than number to even just 29,999 then it's worth it.

Get it down to 25,000 and it's a great investment.  Down to 20,000 and it's a miracle of technology.

way south: brilett: Sure. But there's like three on the road.

And lobbyists are right now pushing a bill to remove states ability to legislatie these things and to remove safety standards.


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There's quite a few more than three. Probably over a hundred since everyone's getting into the game.
Since the average driver has an accident every 160,000 miles and google claims their cars have driven over four million miles, two fatalities and a few fender benders isn't that alarming.
Especially if the self driving cars are just as often not at fault, merely a victim of bad human drivers.

Politicians and industries are fighting for this because it represents a massive revoltion in transportation. It's a trillion dollar business opportunity and they all want the keys. The first ones to market will get to define a lot of how this works out.
They probably are considering the problem of safety, but they're also in a rush to get the vehicles out there, and that means corners will be cut at some point.

DarkVader: Evil Twin Skippy: And keep in mind that Waymo doesn't operate their cars at night, in the rain, or at highway speed. Uber wasn't that bright.

Um, Google started testing in the rain at least two years ago.  They've had night testing for a lot longer.  And yes, they test at highway speed, it's just that that's a lot less interesting problem than city streets, it's actually the completely solved part of self-driving.  Ford is known to be testing in the snow in Michigan.  And of course GM has announced they're planning on shipping a car without a steering wheel next year.

DarkVader: Evil Twin Skippy: NephilimNexus: Since 1945, there have been over 30,000 deaths per year in the USA due to human driven cars.

If computer driven cars can lower than number to even just 29,999 then it's worth it.

Get it down to 25,000 and it's a great investment.  Down to 20,000 and it's a miracle of technology.

Except that automated cars are not safer, and there is no technology on the horizon that will make them safer. The companies running the programs are more concerned with market share than anything else. Even the safest among them are also cutting so many corners they have invented a new geometry of solids.

If I could walk you through how these system are architected, the fatal flaws with the algorithms used, and point out that these things are unsafe in even controlled conditions, you would be appalled that there are thousands of these death wagons on the road today.

You're claiming some sort of insider knowledge on these systems and how bad they allegedly are, but you also keep making claims about what testing is being done that are demonstrably incorrect.

Why?