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Mugato [TotalFark]  
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2021-09-27 5:32:56 PM  
We do not want flying cars. get that through your heads. Nothing good can come from flying cars. They look cool in sci-fi movies but that's it,
 
Hagbardr  
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2021-09-27 5:56:28 PM  
I spent most of a year in a log cabin with no running water. Luckily there was a bath house at the campground but it was an added difficulty to cooking, keeping clean, and using the toilet.
 
MythDragon  
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2021-09-27 6:00:35 PM  
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Just get bootstrappy and go in the ice cube tray drain.
 
lunchlady55  
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2021-09-27 6:00:42 PM  
"Even though plumbing poverty appears to have declined in several major cities including New York, Los Angeles and Chicago over the past two decades, tens of thousands of residents continue to rely on public restrooms, school showers and chamber pots."

Chamber pots?

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Electric Monk has lost his horse [TotalFark]  
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2021-09-27 6:01:28 PM  
And probably a million or so more that technically have the indoor plumbing, but the water has been turned off for non-payment.
 
Hooker with a Penis  
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2021-09-27 6:01:46 PM  

Mugato: We do not want flying cars. get that through your heads. Nothing good can come from flying cars. They look cool in sci-fi movies but that's it,


What if the flying cars had toilets in them like large airplanes do? Poor people could buy one and kill 2 birds with one stone.
 
nytmare  
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2021-09-27 6:03:35 PM  
I guess this is how people who aren't ridiculously wealthy manage to live in grossly overpriced cities. By forgoing basic needs. To address the indoor plumbing issue you're first going to have to address the fact that the average person can't afford to live in an average apartment there.
 
AmbassadorBooze  
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2021-09-27 6:03:39 PM  
First person in TFA lives in SF.  A blue city.  Not maga country.  A place where people wear masks unless Tony Toni Tone are having a reunion concert (understandable.  Nobody wants to wear a mask to tony toni tone).  Why are there any homes in a non maga city without plumbing?  Which parts of the collective didn't get the memo?  Accounting for PG&E vaporizing whole city blocks once in a while, which might disrupt plumbing.  That can't be helped.

So, back to the plumbing in SF.  Just have the SF collective mandate all apartments get plumbing.
Problem solved.

After the mandate, (and do the same for all non maga cities) do the same survey and show that the maga cities are literally shiat holes, and then we send in the military to unmaga maga country.
 
Omnivorous [BareFark]  
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2021-09-27 6:04:26 PM  
There are about 345,000 Amish in the U.S.  That'll account for a good percentage of the number.
 
chevydeuce  
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2021-09-27 6:07:01 PM  
When I was a kid in, the people that lived next door to us didn't have indoor plumbing. They had an outhouse with a leach field and took bucket baths outside. The people that lived there were an older couple that had lived in the house since the 40's and it just wasn't a priority for them. They both lived into their 90's and when they did finally pass sometime around 20 years ago, the house still didn't have plumbing inside (it's since been torn down and a new place built on the property).

/the house that I grew up in and which my sister still lives in, was originally built without indoor plumbing too, sometime in the 30's/40's, but my grandparents had it installed when they moved in in ~1950.
 
Catsaregreen  
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2021-09-27 6:08:38 PM  
So, every year the regional Health District addresses our Board of Supervisors. And every year they mention there are a few families in the hollers who don't have indoor plumbing - and don't want it - even though the Health District will put it in for free. They figure they've lived without it this long, that they don't need it. (And I'm pretty sure I'm smelt some of them in front of me at the Dollar General when I go there to buy some quicky items.)
 
Gulper Eel  
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2021-09-27 6:09:15 PM  
No self-respecting moneyed hipster would forgo a slick new outhouse.
 
Science_Guy_3.14159 [TotalFark]  
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2021-09-27 6:09:36 PM  
And to think the Romans had indoor plumbing 2000 years ago, how far we've come.
 
woodjf  
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2021-09-27 6:09:38 PM  

Omnivorous: There are about 345,000 Amish in the U.S.  That'll account for a good percentage of the number.


They feed it to us lol. Good work if you can get it
 
AmbassadorBooze  
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2021-09-27 6:10:40 PM  

Catsaregreen: So, every year the regional Health District addresses our Board of Supervisors. And every year they mention there are a few families in the hollers who don't have indoor plumbing - and don't want it - even though the Health District will put it in for free. They figure they've lived without it this long, that they don't need it. (And I'm pretty sure I'm smelt some of them in front of me at the Dollar General when I go there to buy some quicky items.)


Should people be "free" to turn down upgrades for health that are free?  I think not.  Have the local military wing of the collective force the indoor plumbing on them, for the good of the collective.
 
pastramithemosterotic  
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2021-09-27 6:13:20 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: First person in TFA lives in SF.  A blue city.  Not maga country.  A place where people wear masks unless Tony Toni Tone are having a reunion concert (understandable.  Nobody wants to wear a mask to tony toni tone).  Why are there any homes in a non maga city without plumbing?  Which parts of the collective didn't get the memo?  Accounting for PG&E vaporizing whole city blocks once in a while, which might disrupt plumbing.  That can't be helped.

So, back to the plumbing in SF.  Just have the SF collective mandate all apartments get plumbing.
Problem solved.

After the mandate, (and do the same for all non maga cities) do the same survey and show that the maga cities are literally shiat holes, and then we send in the military to unmaga maga country.


You've already hit the bottle today, haven't you?
 
darch  
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2021-09-27 6:15:04 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: Catsaregreen: So, every year the regional Health District addresses our Board of Supervisors. And every year they mention there are a few families in the hollers who don't have indoor plumbing - and don't want it - even though the Health District will put it in for free. They figure they've lived without it this long, that they don't need it. (And I'm pretty sure I'm smelt some of them in front of me at the Dollar General when I go there to buy some quicky items.)

Should people be "free" to turn down upgrades for health that are free?  I think not.  Have the local military wing of the collective force the indoor plumbing on them, for the good of the collective.


You keep using the word "collective". Why? What's your angle?
 
137 Is An Excellent Time  
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2021-09-27 6:17:13 PM  
Huh, no indoor plumbing in a blue city. Well, why not just make it illegal?
 
zepillin [BareFark] [OhFark]  
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2021-09-27 6:17:20 PM  
in 2019 there were like 122 million house holds in america, 1/2 a million is very close to a rounding error

it's really like amazingly good
 
Abox  
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2021-09-27 6:17:56 PM  
Renters and people of color are most likely to be living without water or flushing toilets in some of America's wealthiest cities, new research shows

Dang they're doing better than me, I don't have a place at all in America's wealthiest cities.  If I go to an America's wealthiest city I'm essentially homeless.
 
zepillin [BareFark] [OhFark]  
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2021-09-27 6:19:20 PM  
toss out the Navajos and Louisiana and it's probably pretty much zero
 
137 Is An Excellent Time  
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2021-09-27 6:19:43 PM  

Abox: Renters and people of color are most likely to be living without water or flushing toilets in some of America's wealthiest cities, new research shows

Dang they're doing better than me, I don't have a place at all in America's wealthiest cities.  If I go to an America's wealthiest city I'm essentially homeless.


This, if I sold everything I owned (including my house) and moved to NYC, I could afford like, 6 months of a basic ass apartment. I think the poor there are doing quite well. Maybe they should do the reverse? Sell everything they own and move to Michigan.

Hell, you could buy an entire house for what they spend on rent ... each month. After a year, they could own an entire neighborhood in Detroit.
 
Kuroshin  
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2021-09-27 6:19:53 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: Catsaregreen: So, every year the regional Health District addresses our Board of Supervisors. And every year they mention there are a few families in the hollers who don't have indoor plumbing - and don't want it - even though the Health District will put it in for free. They figure they've lived without it this long, that they don't need it. (And I'm pretty sure I'm smelt some of them in front of me at the Dollar General when I go there to buy some quicky items.)

Should people be "free" to turn down upgrades for health that are free?  I think not.  Have the local military wing of the collective force the indoor plumbing on them, for the good of the collective.



Okay Quixote, time to stop tilting at windmills and go enjoy some nice hot cocoa.  Those giants aren't coming to terrorize you.  There's a Snuggie and re-runs of Matlock waiting for you at the couch.
 
Gaddiel  
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2021-09-27 6:20:05 PM  

Omnivorous: There are about 345,000 Amish in the U.S.  That'll account for a good percentage of the number.


There may be 345,000 Amish, but that's like 100 house holds.
 
maxheck  
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2021-09-27 6:20:22 PM  
Sooooo... 0.4%?
 
AmbassadorBooze  
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2021-09-27 6:22:10 PM  

pastramithemosterotic: AmbassadorBooze: First person in TFA lives in SF.  A blue city.  Not maga country.  A place where people wear masks unless Tony Toni Tone are having a reunion concert (understandable.  Nobody wants to wear a mask to tony toni tone).  Why are there any homes in a non maga city without plumbing?  Which parts of the collective didn't get the memo?  Accounting for PG&E vaporizing whole city blocks once in a while, which might disrupt plumbing.  That can't be helped.

So, back to the plumbing in SF.  Just have the SF collective mandate all apartments get plumbing.
Problem solved.

After the mandate, (and do the same for all non maga cities) do the same survey and show that the maga cities are literally shiat holes, and then we send in the military to unmaga maga country.

You've already hit the bottle today, haven't you?


Never stopped!  And yes.  3 natty daddy's in.  maybe 4.  already losing count.
 
iheartscotch [TotalFark]  
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2021-09-27 6:22:28 PM  
We do not want flying cars. We have enough trouble with people using shiat terrestrial vehicles.
 
EL EM  
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2021-09-27 6:22:34 PM  
If you move in knowing the whole floor shares the bathroom, expecting it to be anything less than a "shiatshow" is letting optimism overpower common sense.
 
AmbassadorBooze  
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2021-09-27 6:24:19 PM  

darch: AmbassadorBooze: Catsaregreen: So, every year the regional Health District addresses our Board of Supervisors. And every year they mention there are a few families in the hollers who don't have indoor plumbing - and don't want it - even though the Health District will put it in for free. They figure they've lived without it this long, that they don't need it. (And I'm pretty sure I'm smelt some of them in front of me at the Dollar General when I go there to buy some quicky items.)

Should people be "free" to turn down upgrades for health that are free?  I think not.  Have the local military wing of the collective force the indoor plumbing on them, for the good of the collective.

You keep using the word "collective". Why? What's your angle?


The objectively best form of governance is a borg collective.  Part machine, part biological.  100% unified in goal.  SF has a collective.  Sure it isn't fully unified like the borg in fiction, but the local SF collective should be able to mandate plumbing via decree to all residences.

problem solved.
 
Gramma  
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2021-09-27 6:24:38 PM  
My parents' cottage didn't have indoor plumbing. We had an outhouse.  i spent summer vacations there until about 2000.  It was on a lake, and I would take my soap and bathe in the lake every morning.
It was okay for a couple weeks in the summer, but if it hadn't been July or August it would have been miserable.
 
AmbassadorBooze  
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2021-09-27 6:25:53 PM  

zepillin: toss out the Navajos and Louisiana and it's probably pretty much zero


So, you didn't see TFA and that there are people in the SF collective that are without plumbing?
 
Gaddiel  
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2021-09-27 6:28:38 PM  

137 Is An Excellent Time: Abox: Renters and people of color are most likely to be living without water or flushing toilets in some of America's wealthiest cities, new research shows

Dang they're doing better than me, I don't have a place at all in America's wealthiest cities.  If I go to an America's wealthiest city I'm essentially homeless.

This, if I sold everything I owned (including my house) and moved to NYC, I could afford like, 6 months of a basic ass apartment. I think the poor there are doing quite well. Maybe they should do the reverse? Sell everything they own and move to Michigan.

Hell, you could buy an entire house for what they spend on rent ... each month. After a year, they could own an entire neighborhood in Detroit.


That happened after the '08 crash. A bunch of rich farks bought out entire neighborhoods of foreclosed homes and then rented them back to the community at a healthy profit. They're basically lords of feudal villages in places like Arizona or Florida. I didn't think I'd ever see Bob Dole in the news again but this is exactly what he's spending his sunset years doing.

I know a few folks who tried taking advantage of the vast disparities in the cost of living during Covid, but then their offices set up policies that you either had to be in the office x number of days a week or at least geographically live in the same area where you're employed. Turns out that it's a lot harder for a corporate lawyer to pull in $400K a year in Detroit or bum-fark Tennessee than in NYC or LA.
 
Fano  
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2021-09-27 6:29:22 PM  

Omnivorous: There are about 345,000 Amish in the U.S.  That'll account for a good percentage of the number.


Gonna say there's enough hillbillies and Amish for 500k in a population of 300 million to be a rounding error
 
Shamrock1  
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2021-09-27 6:31:02 PM  
Several of spouse's cousins don't have indoor plumbing, and a few still have dirt floors. Pennsyltucky. Not Amish, just very, very poor.

/ Enough cash to buy a bunch of MAGA hats though.
 
The_Homeless_Guy  
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2021-09-27 6:31:06 PM  

Electric Monk has lost his horse: And probably a million or so more that technically have the indoor plumbing, but the water has been turned off for non-payment.


That or have failed septic systems and just spew waste into ditches, etc. That is increasingly common.
 
Kuroshin  
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2021-09-27 6:35:31 PM  

137 Is An Excellent Time: Huh, no indoor plumbing in a blue city. Well, why not just make it illegal?



Depending on the structure, it might already be.  Building codes are things that do exist.  Doesn't mean slum lords don't ignore them.

Funny thing about the US legal system: you don't have access to it without money.  If you're living in a slum, you don't have money.
 
vilesithknight  
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2021-09-27 6:37:02 PM  
Are the trying to count well users as not having running water as well? Just asking cause I live in inner city Columbus in a house built in 1940. We have well water. It is plumbing, it just doesn't come from the city. I wouldn't want it any other way. All that it has cost us in 3 pump replacements in 22 years, which is much cheaper than a monthly bill. Anyway, last time a census worker came around, one of the questions they asked was if we had plumbing, and we said yes, we have a well. And they said, so thats no. And we had to argue with them to convince them of what we had lol.
 
BigNumber12  
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2021-09-27 6:37:45 PM  

iheartscotch: We do not want flying cars. We have enough trouble with people using shiat terrestrial vehicles.


Cannot be overstated.
 
pounddawg  
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2021-09-27 6:38:26 PM  

Mugato: We do not want flying cars. get that through your heads. Nothing good can come from flying cars. They look cool in sci-fi movies but that's it,


We have flying cars --- Cessna
 
mrinfoguy  
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2021-09-27 6:39:47 PM  
I can tell you with absolute certainty that I do want a flying car.
 
Eightballjacket  
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2021-09-27 6:40:10 PM  

137 Is An Excellent Time: Abox: Renters and people of color are most likely to be living without water or flushing toilets in some of America's wealthiest cities, new research shows

Dang they're doing better than me, I don't have a place at all in America's wealthiest cities.  If I go to an America's wealthiest city I'm essentially homeless.

This, if I sold everything I owned (including my house) and moved to NYC, I could afford like, 6 months of a basic ass apartment. I think the poor there are doing quite well. Maybe they should do the reverse? Sell everything they own and move to Michigan.

Hell, you could buy an entire house for what they spend on rent ... each month. After a year, they could own an entire neighborhood in Detroit.


Yeah, but those cheap houses in Detroit often don't have indoor plumbing as the pipes have been stripped.
 
sprgrss  
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2021-09-27 6:43:23 PM  
depending on the time of year, I do not have in door plumbing.
 
whidbey  
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2021-09-27 6:44:47 PM  

Hooker with a Penis: Mugato: We do not want flying cars. get that through your heads. Nothing good can come from flying cars. They look cool in sci-fi movies but that's it,

What if the flying cars had toilets in them like large airplanes do? Poor people could buy one and kill 2 birds with one stone.


And shoot bees out of their mouth?
 
Reek!  
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2021-09-27 6:45:40 PM  

vilesithknight: Are the trying to count well users as not having running water as well? Just asking cause I live in inner city Columbus in a house built in 1940. We have well water. It is plumbing, it just doesn't come from the city. I wouldn't want it any other way. All that it has cost us in 3 pump replacements in 22 years, which is much cheaper than a monthly bill. Anyway, last time a census worker came around, one of the questions they asked was if we had plumbing, and we said yes, we have a well. And they said, so thats no. And we had to argue with them to convince them of what we had lol.


At my parents house (rural oh) they had rainwater & septic - when the county ran  utilities down their street, they were legally required to connect- even though their existing setup worked just fine
 
bababa  
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2021-09-27 6:46:25 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: First person in TFA lives in SF.  A blue city.  Not maga country.  A place where people wear masks unless Tony Toni Tone are having a reunion concert (understandable.  Nobody wants to wear a mask to tony toni tone).  Why are there any homes in a non maga city without plumbing?  Which parts of the collective didn't get the memo?  Accounting for PG&E vaporizing whole city blocks once in a while, which might disrupt plumbing.  That can't be helped.

So, back to the plumbing in SF.  Just have the SF collective mandate all apartments get plumbing.
Problem solved.

After the mandate, (and do the same for all non maga cities) do the same survey and show that the maga cities are literally shiat holes, and then we send in the military to unmaga maga country.


They live in one-room studios and share a bathroom. The building mentioned in the article has about 60 people per floor, with one bathroom per floor. The photo showed that the building was pretty small for that number of renters. It's in Chinatown, and is probably mostly renting to immigrants from China. The landlords are making a killing.
 
Excelsior  
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2021-09-27 6:47:05 PM  

Mugato: We do not want flying cars. get that through your heads. Nothing good can come from flying cars. They look cool in sci-fi movies but that's it,


Do you really want to give Cletus and "my car is fine, I just need to give it a couple of of oil every time I fill the tank" with the ability to fly over your house?

Either way, keeping a car moving in three dimensions will use a lot more energy than rolling it around in two dimensions.


/That's not flying, it's falling with style
 
mofa [TotalFark]  
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2021-09-27 6:48:03 PM  
Yeah, but freedom.
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SBinRR [OhFark]  
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2021-09-27 6:48:11 PM  

vilesithknight: Are the trying to count well users as not having running water as well? Just asking cause I live in inner city Columbus in a house built in 1940. We have well water. It is plumbing, it just doesn't come from the city. I wouldn't want it any other way. All that it has cost us in 3 pump replacements in 22 years, which is much cheaper than a monthly bill. Anyway, last time a census worker came around, one of the questions they asked was if we had plumbing, and we said yes, we have a well. And they said, so thats no. And we had to argue with them to convince them of what we had lol.


Their familiarity with wells was probably limited to the old stone encircled hole with a bucket and a rope.
 
Salmon  
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2021-09-27 6:50:01 PM  
Next there will be flying coal rollers that hit flying cyclists.
 
Xanlexian [OhFark]  
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2021-09-27 6:50:56 PM  
We have 'flying cars'.  They're called 'airplanes'.  Get licensed and get yourself a flying car.
 
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