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CarnySaur [TotalFark]  
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2021-05-10 2:53:26 PM  
You know who else blessed gay couples?
 
Smurfnazi420  
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2021-05-10 2:53:27 PM  
Since when did Germany get progressive?

(Good for them, though)
 
2021-05-10 2:53:43 PM  
Sanity: No listening to leviticus.

So, Fly that Pride Flag High! Hoist that Pink Triangle! Let Freedom ring as your True Self!
 
Advernaut  
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2021-05-10 2:56:02 PM  
Rational people: Blessings mean shiat.
 
2021-05-10 2:57:09 PM  
If God cannot bless sin, then gay couples should be able to get married instead of living in sin.

/21st century, welcome to it
 
2021-05-10 2:57:15 PM  
Good on the German catholics, but I'm totally in favor of religiosos continuing to preach against homosexuality and try to exclude them.

It's a very efficient way for the religious denominations to alienate future generations - 'cause young people by and large don't (and won't) think it's OK. I support that. By all means, make it obvious to future potential churchgoers how utterly bankrupt, harmful, and divorced from reality church morality actually is. It only makes it easier to convince young people to stay away from that poisonous bullshiat we call religion.
 
austerity101  
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2021-05-10 2:58:10 PM  

mongbiohazard: Good on the German catholics, but I'm totally in favor of religiosos continuing to preach against homosexuality and try to exclude them.

It's a very efficient way for the religious denominations to alienate future generations - 'cause young people by and large don't (and won't) think it's OK. I support that. By all means, make it obvious to future potential churchgoers how utterly bankrupt, harmful, and divorced from reality church morality actually is. It only makes it easier to convince young people to stay away from that poisonous bullshiat we call religion.


Hey, uh, maybe don't promote bigotry? Signed, a gay.
 
2021-05-10 2:58:11 PM  
God loves you so much he gives you urges that he will condemn you to Hell for eternity for acting upon.

Nice guy, that God.
 
2021-05-10 3:03:37 PM  

Somaticasual: Sanity: No listening to leviticus.

So, Fly that Pride Flag High! Hoist that Pink Triangle! Let Freedom ring as your True Self!


That particular passage in Leviticus has been misconstrued because some people don't approve of same-sex relationships.

In ancient middle-eastern culture, it was verboten to allow harm to a guest. The Pashtuns still practice this to a degree. In Leviticus...god isn't objecting to same-sex stuff at all. God is objecting to the mistreatment of guests.
 
Gyrfalcon  
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2021-05-10 3:04:04 PM  

Smurfnazi420: Since when did Germany get progressive?

(Good for them, though)


Since this guy named Martin Luther got irked with Pope Leo.
 
abbarach  
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2021-05-10 3:04:43 PM  

mongbiohazard: Good on the German catholics, but I'm totally in favor of religiosos continuing to preach against homosexuality and try to exclude them.

It's a very efficient way for the religious denominations to alienate future generations - 'cause young people by and large don't (and won't) think it's OK. I support that. By all means, make it obvious to future potential churchgoers how utterly bankrupt, harmful, and divorced from reality church morality actually is. It only makes it easier to convince young people to stay away from that poisonous bullshiat we call religion.


Awfully brave of you to sacrifice LGBTQ people...

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Why don't you go find something more constructive to do with your time, like farking off?
 
Marcos P  
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2021-05-10 3:05:24 PM  
fark religion
 
2021-05-10 3:06:42 PM  

Advernaut: Rational people: Blessings mean shiat.


patonhead.gif
 
2021-05-10 3:07:37 PM  

Advernaut: Rational people: Blessings mean shiat.


In the context of this situation, they strike me as particularly meaningful.
 
Solty Dog  
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2021-05-10 3:08:07 PM  
If I wanted someone in a bathrobe to tell me how to live my life, I'd ask my crazy uncle Kevin, who can't keep his opinions to hisself.
 
2021-05-10 3:08:08 PM  

austerity101: mongbiohazard: Good on the German catholics, but I'm totally in favor of religiosos continuing to preach against homosexuality and try to exclude them.

It's a very efficient way for the religious denominations to alienate future generations - 'cause young people by and large don't (and won't) think it's OK. I support that. By all means, make it obvious to future potential churchgoers how utterly bankrupt, harmful, and divorced from reality church morality actually is. It only makes it easier to convince young people to stay away from that poisonous bullshiat we call religion.

Hey, uh, maybe don't promote bigotry? Signed, a gay.


I don't promote bigotry at all. I'm just happy to see the broader church shoot themselves in the foot rather than "moderate their tone" to avoid driving more youth away from the church.

The prevalence of belief in religious myths is what keeps anti-gay bigotry alive. By and large, non-religious people don't give a shiat what sexuality someone wants. The sooner we cripple the power and influence of religious institutions the better for gays in particular, but also for our entire society in myriad other ways. The disgusting concept of "faith" is bad in general. And with this crap the religious institutions are making themselves radioactive for the future members they need in order to maintain their power and influence in the long run.

I am happy to call out bigotry when I see it, and help fight against it. But I'm also happy to see it's chief proponent assure their own future irrelevance. It can't come soon enough.
 
Subtonic  
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2021-05-10 3:11:10 PM  
Roman's go to the house?
 
2021-05-10 3:11:17 PM  

abbarach: mongbiohazard: Good on the German catholics, but I'm totally in favor of religiosos continuing to preach against homosexuality and try to exclude them.

It's a very efficient way for the religious denominations to alienate future generations - 'cause young people by and large don't (and won't) think it's OK. I support that. By all means, make it obvious to future potential churchgoers how utterly bankrupt, harmful, and divorced from reality church morality actually is. It only makes it easier to convince young people to stay away from that poisonous bullshiat we call religion.

Awfully brave of you to sacrifice LGBTQ people...

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Why don't you go find something more constructive to do with your time, like farking off?


Not sacrificing anyone. I'm just glad to see dangerous groups sew the seeds of their own destruction.

Like I just said:
"I am happy to call out bigotry when I see it, and help fight against it. But I'm also happy to see it's chief proponent assure their own future irrelevance. It can't come soon enough."

Basically, the harder the church fights this losing battle in the short run the more quickly they will lose the battle in general. If they were to start "moderating their tone" tomorrow they'd still be holding back the fight for equal rights for longer.
 
abbarach  
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2021-05-10 3:12:55 PM  

mongbiohazard: abbarach: mongbiohazard: Good on the German catholics, but I'm totally in favor of religiosos continuing to preach against homosexuality and try to exclude them.

It's a very efficient way for the religious denominations to alienate future generations - 'cause young people by and large don't (and won't) think it's OK. I support that. By all means, make it obvious to future potential churchgoers how utterly bankrupt, harmful, and divorced from reality church morality actually is. It only makes it easier to convince young people to stay away from that poisonous bullshiat we call religion.

Awfully brave of you to sacrifice LGBTQ people...

[pbs.twimg.com image 850x551]
Why don't you go find something more constructive to do with your time, like farking off?

Not sacrificing anyone. I'm just glad to see dangerous groups sew the seeds of their own destruction.

Like I just said:
"I am happy to call out bigotry when I see it, and help fight against it. But I'm also happy to see it's chief proponent assure their own future irrelevance. It can't come soon enough."

Basically, the harder the church fights this losing battle in the short run the more quickly they will lose the battle in general. If they were to start "moderating their tone" tomorrow they'd still be holding back the fight for equal rights for longer.


(wanking_motion.gif)

Seriously, just go fark off, Mr "totally in favor of religiosos continuing to preach against homosexuality".After all, it doesn't impact YOU, so it's fine!
 
2021-05-10 3:13:01 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: Advernaut: Rational people: Blessings mean shiat.

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What?  You're mean, it's not like people have trouble with rationality, geesh.

This is pretty huge - as modern catholic rebellion goes (modern being 'not 1500) this is a shot right across the bow.  Trying to force the hand of the episcopate is risky business - and a potential major schism.
As "whatever" as it sounds to the non-religious and non-interested, it's potentially massive for Catholics - and there are a lot of Catholics.

/Not religious personally
//do keep track - it's a big enough human motivator that it's unwise to ignore like it's effects on other people's behavior
///like it or not
 
2021-05-10 3:18:19 PM  
So would the imperative passive present "futuere" mean "get farked?"
 
2021-05-10 3:19:40 PM  
The rabbis will bless 'em!

Robin Hood Men in Tights Rabbi Tuckman Sacramental Wine
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2021-05-10 3:20:39 PM  

Smurfnazi420: Since when did Germany get progressive?

(Good for them, though)


When some guy hammered paperwork on a door.
 
2021-05-10 3:22:15 PM  

abbarach: mongbiohazard: abbarach: mongbiohazard: Good on the German catholics, but I'm totally in favor of religiosos continuing to preach against homosexuality and try to exclude them.

It's a very efficient way for the religious denominations to alienate future generations - 'cause young people by and large don't (and won't) think it's OK. I support that. By all means, make it obvious to future potential churchgoers how utterly bankrupt, harmful, and divorced from reality church morality actually is. It only makes it easier to convince young people to stay away from that poisonous bullshiat we call religion.

Awfully brave of you to sacrifice LGBTQ people...

[pbs.twimg.com image 850x551]
Why don't you go find something more constructive to do with your time, like farking off?

Not sacrificing anyone. I'm just glad to see dangerous groups sew the seeds of their own destruction.

Like I just said:
"I am happy to call out bigotry when I see it, and help fight against it. But I'm also happy to see it's chief proponent assure their own future irrelevance. It can't come soon enough."

Basically, the harder the church fights this losing battle in the short run the more quickly they will lose the battle in general. If they were to start "moderating their tone" tomorrow they'd still be holding back the fight for equal rights for longer.

(wanking_motion.gif)

Seriously, just go fark off, Mr "totally in favor of religiosos continuing to preach against homosexuality".After all, it doesn't impact YOU, so it's fine!


I'm happy when an opponent which has caused countless deaths and massive suffering for thousands of years fails to read the room and farks themselves completely.

The poison that is religious myths affects us ALL. The sooner it implodes the better for everyone - gay, straight... everyone.
 
Mock26  
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2021-05-10 3:23:46 PM  
Easy solution: Buy an indulgence. Sure, you cannot outright buy them anymore but back in 2000 Pope Johnny P2 authorized the giving of indulgences in exchange for charitable contributions.
 
abbarach  
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2021-05-10 3:23:48 PM  

mongbiohazard: abbarach: mongbiohazard: abbarach: mongbiohazard: Good on the German catholics, but I'm totally in favor of religiosos continuing to preach against homosexuality and try to exclude them.

It's a very efficient way for the religious denominations to alienate future generations - 'cause young people by and large don't (and won't) think it's OK. I support that. By all means, make it obvious to future potential churchgoers how utterly bankrupt, harmful, and divorced from reality church morality actually is. It only makes it easier to convince young people to stay away from that poisonous bullshiat we call religion.

Awfully brave of you to sacrifice LGBTQ people...

[pbs.twimg.com image 850x551]
Why don't you go find something more constructive to do with your time, like farking off?

Not sacrificing anyone. I'm just glad to see dangerous groups sew the seeds of their own destruction.

Like I just said:
"I am happy to call out bigotry when I see it, and help fight against it. But I'm also happy to see it's chief proponent assure their own future irrelevance. It can't come soon enough."

Basically, the harder the church fights this losing battle in the short run the more quickly they will lose the battle in general. If they were to start "moderating their tone" tomorrow they'd still be holding back the fight for equal rights for longer.

(wanking_motion.gif)

Seriously, just go fark off, Mr "totally in favor of religiosos continuing to preach against homosexuality".After all, it doesn't impact YOU, so it's fine!

I'm happy when an opponent which has caused countless deaths and massive suffering for thousands of years fails to read the room and farks themselves completely.

The poison that is religious myths affects us ALL. The sooner it implodes the better for everyone - gay, straight... everyone.


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2021-05-10 3:26:00 PM  
"The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith"?   I wasn't expecting that.


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2021-05-10 3:27:24 PM  
The Vatican will bless them the moment they realize there is more money to be grifted from blessing than from not. That's how its always been, on every subject.
 
Mock26  
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2021-05-10 3:30:51 PM  

abbarach: (wanking_motion.gif)

Seriously, just go fark off, Mr "totally in favor of religiosos continuing to preach against homosexuality".After all, it doesn't impact YOU, so it's fine!


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You do realize that he is not advocating against equal rights and protections for LGBTQ people, right? He is basically saying that the Church is shooting itself in the foot for their continued stance against LGBTQ rights and protections and that the more they do it the quicker the Church will "bleed to death." And once that happens then a massively huge obstacle for LGBTQ rights and protections will be removed from the world.
 
abbarach  
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2021-05-10 3:39:15 PM  

Mock26: abbarach: (wanking_motion.gif)

Seriously, just go fark off, Mr "totally in favor of religiosos continuing to preach against homosexuality".After all, it doesn't impact YOU, so it's fine!

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You do realize that he is not advocating against equal rights and protections for LGBTQ people, right? He is basically saying that the Church is shooting itself in the foot for their continued stance against LGBTQ rights and protections and that the more they do it the quicker the Church will "bleed to death." And once that happens then a massively huge obstacle for LGBTQ rights and protections will be removed from the world.


And you're missing that there are actual people being hurt and killed by the very behavior he's cheering on, right?  Or do we f*gs not count as "people"?

Talk about missing the farking point, you all are some DENSE motherfarkers...
 
2021-05-10 3:42:51 PM  

abbarach: Mock26: abbarach: (wanking_motion.gif)

Seriously, just go fark off, Mr "totally in favor of religiosos continuing to preach against homosexuality".After all, it doesn't impact YOU, so it's fine!

[Fark user image 220x220] [View Full Size image _x_]

You do realize that he is not advocating against equal rights and protections for LGBTQ people, right? He is basically saying that the Church is shooting itself in the foot for their continued stance against LGBTQ rights and protections and that the more they do it the quicker the Church will "bleed to death." And once that happens then a massively huge obstacle for LGBTQ rights and protections will be removed from the world.

And you're missing that there are actual people being hurt and killed by the very behavior he's cheering on, right?  Or do we f*gs not count as "people"?

Talk about missing the farking point, you all are some DENSE motherfarkers...


Speaking of dense...

I'm not cheering on their bigotry. I'm cheering on their cluelessness on how their continued grip on their bigotry is making them wreck themselves. The longer they take to realize that the better it is for LGBTQ people (and the rest of us too) because that's the quicker religious denominations will become irrelevant.

See, I actually WANT to win this battle - not just preen and pose for everyone else about how much I'm concerned.
 
phoenix352  
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2021-05-10 3:45:03 PM  
Man the Vatican is in such a weird spot.  In Germany the churches are disobeying because the church isn't liberal enough.  In America the church is disobeying because they want to have a new inquisition.

/Nobody ever expects the Wisconsin Inquisition!
 
purpurosea  
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2021-05-10 3:49:13 PM  
Pro-belief, anti-organized religion queer here with my two cents. Knowing the history of Christianity, it's more likely we'd end up with a new sect than this would cause it to "bleed to death". I'd actually rather these German priests push their peers toward progress than hope this particular divide causes a death by a million cuts. This branch of conversation feels kinda reductionist and driven more by edgy-atheist internet posturing than actual thought on how we end Christian-promoted homophobia.

I'd rather end homophobia and keep Christianity than end Christianity and keep homophobia, yaknow?
 
2021-05-10 3:49:14 PM  

iheartscotch: Somaticasual: Sanity: No listening to leviticus.

So, Fly that Pride Flag High! Hoist that Pink Triangle! Let Freedom ring as your True Self!

That particular passage in Leviticus has been misconstrued because some people don't approve of same-sex relationships.

In ancient middle-eastern culture, it was verboten to allow harm to a guest. The Pashtuns still practice this to a degree. In Leviticus...god isn't objecting to same-sex stuff at all. God is objecting to the mistreatment of guests.


Leviticus 12:22 You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination

That is God objecting to the mistreatment of guests?  Uh, no.

Anywayyyyyyy - The whole thing is ridiculous.  People will tell you that the bible is against the gay while eating bacon and doing numerous other things the bible says are wrong.
 
Arkanaut  
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2021-05-10 4:00:41 PM  

Smurfnazi420: Since when did Germany get progressive?

(Good for them, though)


1517?
 
2021-05-10 4:07:41 PM  

allthesametome: iheartscotch: Somaticasual: Sanity: No listening to leviticus.

So, Fly that Pride Flag High! Hoist that Pink Triangle! Let Freedom ring as your True Self!

That particular passage in Leviticus has been misconstrued because some people don't approve of same-sex relationships.

In ancient middle-eastern culture, it was verboten to allow harm to a guest. The Pashtuns still practice this to a degree. In Leviticus...god isn't objecting to same-sex stuff at all. God is objecting to the mistreatment of guests.

Leviticus 12:22 You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination

That is God objecting to the mistreatment of guests?  Uh, no.

Anywayyyyyyy - The whole thing is ridiculous.  People will tell you that the bible is against the gay while eating bacon and doing numerous other things the bible says are wrong.


Apparently most Jewish translators agree that's an error and could mean either 'don't do the Greek sexual exploitation of teen boys' or 'don't sleep with your lover in a woman's bed'.

The Bible was written in Aremic, translated to Greek, translated to Latin, translated to English, and that's not even going into deliberate political mistranslations like King James. It's got problems because of that.

/you're not wrong that the coming of Jesus was supposed to signify that you're not actually Jewish anymore, though--the rituals and rules aren't a Christian thing, they're part of a much larger book of discussion for Jewish people
//and Jewish people actually don't have too much problem with trans folk--they have six genders traditionally. Not sure about other queer aspects, but they seem chill with most of us.
 
2021-05-10 4:08:08 PM  
I've just pulled a paper off of my door, labelled "Theses".

Anyone want to own this?
 
suze  
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2021-05-10 4:08:43 PM  
Just switch to Episcopal. It's Catholic-Lite without all the crappola. They even have gay Reverends.
 
2021-05-10 4:11:17 PM  
Solty Dog:

He was right about an incoming worldwide pandemic. But that was 23 years ago and 4 trips upstate for "rest"
 
2021-05-10 4:15:46 PM  

purpurosea: Pro-belief, anti-organized religion queer here with my two cents. Knowing the history of Christianity, it's more likely we'd end up with a new sect than this would cause it to "bleed to death". I'd actually rather these German priests push their peers toward progress than hope this particular divide causes a death by a million cuts. This branch of conversation feels kinda reductionist and driven more by edgy-atheist internet posturing than actual thought on how we end Christian-promoted homophobia.

I'd rather end homophobia and keep Christianity than end Christianity and keep homophobia, yaknow?


Except that's already not what's happening. The olds are dying off, as we're all destined to do, and the youngs are tending to drop religion in general and religious denominations are generally shrinking - and it's the religious denominations strident public social stances which are inspiring it. That's a good trend which the church's arrogance is only accelerating.

Teaching people that it's not just OK but actually a virtue to choose to believe in myths - even in the face of not just an absence of evidence but also when logic and evidence contradict religious myth - poisons our society. LGBTQ bigotry is just one of the ways. But that human malware we call faith creates vulnerabilities which religious and political leaders routinely exploit to justify all sorts of nasty shiat.
 
jclaggett [TotalFark]  
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2021-05-10 4:17:52 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Smurfnazi420: Since when did Germany get progressive?

(Good for them, though)

Since this guy named Martin Luther got irked with Pope Leo.


There's a Lutheran Church around the corner from me...that runs a brewery. Damned good German influenced brews. I try to keep a supply of their Kölsch on hand at all times.
 
jclaggett [TotalFark]  
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2021-05-10 4:20:07 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: Smurfnazi420: Since when did Germany get progressive?

(Good for them, though)

When some guy hammered paperwork on a door.


Ein minuten bitte! Ich habe einen kleinen problemo avec diese religione.
 
2021-05-10 4:22:07 PM  

suze: Just switch to Episcopal. It's Catholic-Lite without all the crappola. They even have gay Reverends.


All the pomp and ritual, half the guilt!
 
snodoubt  
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2021-05-10 4:24:00 PM  
I knew it wasn't... but I really wanted the Latin to be "hold my beer"
 
2021-05-10 4:24:04 PM  

austerity101: mongbiohazard: Good on the German catholics, but I'm totally in favor of religiosos continuing to preach against homosexuality and try to exclude them.

It's a very efficient way for the religious denominations to alienate future generations - 'cause young people by and large don't (and won't) think it's OK. I support that. By all means, make it obvious to future potential churchgoers how utterly bankrupt, harmful, and divorced from reality church morality actually is. It only makes it easier to convince young people to stay away from that poisonous bullshiat we call religion.

Hey, uh, maybe don't promote bigotry? Signed, a gay.


Is it bigotry to oppose someone choosing to follow an oppressive, abusive ideology?

/Serious question
 
2021-05-10 4:28:06 PM  

iheartscotch: Somaticasual: Sanity: No listening to leviticus.

So, Fly that Pride Flag High! Hoist that Pink Triangle! Let Freedom ring as your True Self!

That particular passage in Leviticus has been misconstrued because some people don't approve of same-sex relationships.

In ancient middle-eastern culture, it was verboten to allow harm to a guest. The Pashtuns still practice this to a degree. In Leviticus...god isn't objecting to same-sex stuff at all. God is objecting to the mistreatment of guests.


I thought leviticus was all about how to comport yourself in the area around the temple and also how your wife and daughters have to live in the yard while menstruating?
 
2021-05-10 4:31:02 PM  

mongbiohazard: abbarach: mongbiohazard: abbarach: mongbiohazard: Good on the German catholics, but I'm totally in favor of religiosos continuing to preach against homosexuality and try to exclude them.

It's a very efficient way for the religious denominations to alienate future generations - 'cause young people by and large don't (and won't) think it's OK. I support that. By all means, make it obvious to future potential churchgoers how utterly bankrupt, harmful, and divorced from reality church morality actually is. It only makes it easier to convince young people to stay away from that poisonous bullshiat we call religion.

Awfully brave of you to sacrifice LGBTQ people...

[pbs.twimg.com image 850x551]
Why don't you go find something more constructive to do with your time, like farking off?

Not sacrificing anyone. I'm just glad to see dangerous groups sew the seeds of their own destruction.

Like I just said:
"I am happy to call out bigotry when I see it, and help fight against it. But I'm also happy to see it's chief proponent assure their own future irrelevance. It can't come soon enough."

Basically, the harder the church fights this losing battle in the short run the more quickly they will lose the battle in general. If they were to start "moderating their tone" tomorrow they'd still be holding back the fight for equal rights for longer.

(wanking_motion.gif)

Seriously, just go fark off, Mr "totally in favor of religiosos continuing to preach against homosexuality".After all, it doesn't impact YOU, so it's fine!

I'm happy when an opponent which has caused countless deaths and massive suffering for thousands of years fails to read the room and farks themselves completely.

The poison that is religious myths affects us ALL. The sooner it implodes the better for everyone - gay, straight... everyone.


That's effectively accelerationism.

I mean, I get it. I just don't know if you've thought it through.
 
2021-05-10 4:31:35 PM  

Mock26: Easy solution: Buy an indulgence. Sure, you cannot outright buy them anymore but back in 2000 Pope Johnny P2 authorized the giving of indulgences in exchange for charitable contributions.


Like carbon offset credits. But for sodomy.
 
2021-05-10 4:36:17 PM  

purpurosea: Pro-belief, anti-organized religion queer here with my two cents. Knowing the history of Christianity, it's more likely we'd end up with a new sect than this would cause it to "bleed to death". I'd actually rather these German priests push their peers toward progress than hope this particular divide causes a death by a million cuts. This branch of conversation feels kinda reductionist and driven more by edgy-atheist internet posturing than actual thought on how we end Christian-promoted homophobia.

I'd rather end homophobia and keep Christianity than end Christianity and keep homophobia, yaknow?


They seem to be of the opinion that homophobia is a byproduct of religion, and not a prejudice that is exploited by it. That's at least partly true with Christianity.

However, they're not seeing the larger picture. As faiths compress down to smaller and smaller cores of die hard believers, the acts of fundamental terror will increase on an inverse line.
 
abbarach  
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2021-05-10 4:39:59 PM  

mongbiohazard: Speaking of dense...

I'm not cheering on their bigotry. I'm cheering on their cluelessness on how their continued grip on their bigotry is making them wreck themselves. The longer they take to realize that the better it is for LGBTQ people (and the rest of us too) because that's the quicker religious denominations will become irrelevant.

See, I actually WANT to win this battle - not just preen and pose for everyone else about how much I'm concerned.


Maybe you should get off your comfortable ass and actually FIGHT your "battle" in person, then, instead of sitting around celebrating when your enemy announces that they're going to continue to victimize a third party that never signed up to be pawns in your "war"
 
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