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(LA Times)   You know the scene near the end of "The Wiz" where Evillene's slaves all rip off their monster costumes and dance? Getting fully vaccinated for Covid-19 is kind of like that   (latimes.com) divider line
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NeoCortex42 [TotalFark]  
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2021-02-25 1:45:27 PM  
Damnit, people.  Just because you got your shots doesn't mean it's back to normal.  It means that current mitigation habits are all that much more effective, and we'd be able to get back to normal more quickly if people keep being careful.
 
syrynxx [TotalFark] [OhFark]  
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2021-02-25 2:12:06 PM  
Someone actually saw "The Wiz"?
 
NM Volunteer [TotalFark]  
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2021-02-25 2:48:40 PM  

NeoCortex42: Damnit, people.  Just because you got your shots doesn't mean it's back to normal.  It means that current mitigation habits are all that much more effective, and we'd be able to get back to normal more quickly if people keep being careful.


Especially since it is only 95% effective.  There's that 5% chance it isn't.  I talked to a state epidemiologist yesterday about whether routine weekly testing will be needed after all staff get vaccinated and we reopen to the public, and he said yes, keep doing testing.
 
EL EM  
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2021-02-25 2:49:55 PM  
Don't nobody bring me no bad news.
 
KB202  
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2021-02-25 2:50:12 PM  
Isn't "pervasive fear" a bit of hyperbole? We didn't want hospitals overrun and essential workers at risk and public services interrupted. We didn't want to get sick or die on a ventilator. That's not the same as pervasive fear. It's just common sense.
 
dothemath  
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2021-02-25 2:50:55 PM  
Rudy Ray Moore is the black Ed Wood.
 
2021-02-25 2:51:31 PM  
Is this where I admit I grew up in a very white area and never saw The Wiz?
 
2021-02-25 2:52:48 PM  

GranoblasticMan: Is this where I admit I grew up in a very white area and never saw The Wiz?


How dare you! *Slap*
 
darkmayo  
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2021-02-25 2:54:33 PM  

NeoCortex42: Damnit, people.  Just because you got your shots doesn't mean it's back to normal.  It means that current mitigation habits are all that much more effective, and we'd be able to get back to normal more quickly if people keep being careful.


BUH MAH RIHTS!

Vaccine or no Vaccine, it is the will of JESUS that I have an 100 person orgy at my church/crossfit studio. Event will be catered with an all you can eat buffet with multiple hotpots, utensils are for antifa so get your mericka on an make sure you paw your grubby mits on some tits and chicken wings.
 
2021-02-25 2:57:00 PM  

syrynxx: Someone actually saw "The Wiz"?


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2021-02-25 2:57:40 PM  
I know that I had nightmares for years about that damned subway station scene, and it still creeps me out considerably.
 
beakerxf  
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2021-02-25 2:57:58 PM  
The vaccine isn't mandatory and sometimes hard to get, so I imagine the people actually making the effort to get vaccinated are generally Covid safety concious types.
 
2021-02-25 3:01:16 PM  

syrynxx: Someone actually saw "The Wiz"?


Don't you shame the great Nipsy Russell!
 
2021-02-25 3:02:51 PM  
What the fear mongers want you to believe receiving the vaccination is like:

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Something slightly closer to reality.

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/Other than being Trek
 
2021-02-25 3:03:21 PM  

NM Volunteer: NeoCortex42: Damnit, people.  Just because you got your shots doesn't mean it's back to normal.  It means that current mitigation habits are all that much more effective, and we'd be able to get back to normal more quickly if people keep being careful.

Especially since it is only 95% effective.  There's that 5% chance it isn't.  I talked to a state epidemiologist yesterday about whether routine weekly testing will be needed after all staff get vaccinated and we reopen to the public, and he said yes, keep doing testing.


I think its much easier to scare people into good behavior by simply replacing 95% effective with 1 in 20 odds you still get infected
 
Grumpy Cat  
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2021-02-25 3:04:37 PM  

Michael J Faux: I know that I had nightmares for years about that damned subway station scene, and it still creeps me out considerably.


A whole lotta this.
 
2021-02-25 3:08:09 PM  
My parents are elderly and they finally got the second dose last week. It's a great load off of me because I've been taking care of them and shopping and stuff and have been so worried about them. At least now I can breath a sigh of relief.
Don't worry, we still all wear masks when outside and know that immunity won't kick in for another couple weeks at least. And even afterward they know to always wear masks to protect others.
They both did have a bad day and a half after the second dose, with aches and such. But it passed quickly.
 
2021-02-25 3:15:42 PM  

NeoCortex42: Damnit, people.  Just because you got your shots doesn't mean it's back to normal.  It means that current mitigation habits are all that much more effective, and we'd be able to get back to normal more quickly if people keep being careful.


My father caught Covid, and he weathered it pretty well. Once he was better, he was like, "Good, now I can go out again. I think I'll go see a movie." I had to explain to him that, no, that didn't mean he was safe to do anything he wanted, and staying inside and only going out if he had to (while masked) was still the best idea. It baffles me that people don't understand this.
 
2021-02-25 3:16:31 PM  

Evil Mackerel: What the fear mongers want you to believe receiving the vaccination is like:

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Something slightly closer to reality.

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/Other than being Trek


Damn, I have to ruin two shirts.
 
2021-02-25 3:18:06 PM  

lifeslammer: NM Volunteer: NeoCortex42: Damnit, people.  Just because you got your shots doesn't mean it's back to normal.  It means that current mitigation habits are all that much more effective, and we'd be able to get back to normal more quickly if people keep being careful.

Especially since it is only 95% effective.  There's that 5% chance it isn't.  I talked to a state epidemiologist yesterday about whether routine weekly testing will be needed after all staff get vaccinated and we reopen to the public, and he said yes, keep doing testing.

I think its much easier to scare people into good behavior by simply replacing 95% effective with 1 in 20 odds you still get infected


That's not how that works at all.
 
2021-02-25 3:19:40 PM  
Uhm, no.  I'm fully vaccinated (healthcare worker) and I live my life exactly the same as I have for the past year; masks, distance, etc.
 
2021-02-25 3:19:52 PM  

Herr Morgenstern: It baffles me that people don't understand this.


Most people don't understand this because they've all experienced a lifetime of diseases that you get once. Chicken pox? Measles? Mumps? Whooping cough? You get those once and you're done with them. We didn't live a lifetime of people getting measles and then being told they had to stay inside forever because they can get it again.
 
2021-02-25 3:24:32 PM  

KodosZardoz: Don't worry, we still all wear masks when outside and know that immunity won't kick in for another couple weeks at least. And even afterward they know to always wear masks to protect others


uh...why? That's just silly. The very definition of "vaccination" means you are now immune to becoming sick and infectious.

If what's being injected into people doesn't confer immunity, then it's not a "vaccine."
 
buntz  
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2021-02-25 3:25:14 PM  
I met Nipsey Russell once.
My father was in a musical with him in Atlantic City.

I told him I had just seen Wildcats recently and he was good as the football coach.
He said, in a Nipsey Russell drawl "Naaaah.  I was the prinnnnn-cipallllll"

I was humiliated (since Goldie Hawn being the coach was the whole plot of the movie)
 
Noah_Tall [TotalFark]  
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2021-02-25 3:25:26 PM  
I fully intend to continue my current habits even after being vaccinated. I haven't been sick even once this year. No flu, no colds, nothing. I find it a very pleasant change from the usual.
 
2021-02-25 3:26:45 PM  

Noah_Tall: I fully intend to continue my current habits even after being vaccinated. I haven't been sick even once this year. No flu, no colds, nothing. I find it a very pleasant change from the usual.


Same here.  Even allergies haven't been as bad as in years past.  I'm digging the masks and distancing stuff.
 
fustanella [recently expired TotalFark]  
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2021-02-25 3:30:57 PM  

syrynxx: Someone actually saw "The Wiz"?


We were forced to a live version in DC during a school trip. I remember the experience of being there, and sneaking snacks in from a store across the street, but nothing about the show itself. *shrugs*
 
rewind2846  
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2021-02-25 3:34:41 PM  
Woulda had that LAST SUMMER if people weren't such assholes. In fact we might be saying "COVID what?" the way we can say "Ebola what" now, but as of now we're in day four hundred and farking WHAT of this crap.
 
rewind2846  
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2021-02-25 3:38:13 PM  

lifeslammer: I think its much easier to scare people into good behavior by simply replacing 95% effective with 1 in 20 odds you still get infected


Hand them a bowl of 100 jellybeans and tell them that five of those jellybeans will still make them sick. At random. Eat up.
 
2021-02-25 3:41:56 PM  

Noah_Tall: I fully intend to continue my current habits even after being vaccinated


stuhayes2010: Uhm, no. I'm fully vaccinated (healthcare worker) and I live my life exactly the same as I have for the past year; masks, distance, etc.



Again, why? I truly don't understand the "I'm vaccinated now but not changing anything or going back to normal" mindset. This seems to be like someone slathering themselves in SPF 100 sunscreen in June yet still refusing to go out to get the mail.
 
2021-02-25 3:47:18 PM  

rewind2846: Hand them a bowl of 100 jellybeans and tell them that five of those jellybeans will still make them sick. At random. Eat up.


That's only half the rules. Also be sure to tell them that if they don't reach in to pick a random jellybean, they will probably lose their job, their life savings, their business, and will never again enjoy live sports, concerts, weddings, funerals, art fairs, dining out, or a drink at the pub with family, friends, and the conviviality of strangers.

Not sure about you, but I'd reach into that bowl of jellybeans every day for the rest of my life, because while the length of life might end up being less due to sickness, the quality of that life would be normal and pleasurable.
 
alex10294  
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2021-02-25 3:49:17 PM  

Evil Mackerel: What the fear mongers want you to believe receiving the vaccination is like:

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Something slightly closer to reality.

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/Other than being Trek


Personally, I was in bed shaking and sweating for 28 hours after my Moderna #2.  It was horrible, and I haven't felt that sick since I had the flu at 19 years old 25 years ago.  Then it went away like magic. That happened, more or less time, to about 20% of the people at my hospital.  Call-outs got so bad, that they told us to get it on days when we didn't have to work the next day, after initially telling us it'd be fine.  I haven't called out sick in 6 years, and if I had to work the next day, I would have.

Still glad I got it, but please don't make it seem like it won't suck, because that's causing a lot of ED visits with misinformed people presenting for post-vaccine symptoms.
 
2021-02-25 3:55:28 PM  
Racka Fracka gotta do everything myself...

The Wiz - Brand New Day
Youtube mt05jZWJVPA
 
2021-02-25 3:56:49 PM  
lifeslammer:
I think its much easier to scare people into good behavior by simply replacing 95% effective with 1 in 20 odds you still get infected

Critical hit!

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jjorsett  
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2021-02-25 3:59:23 PM  
The San Diego area is being overrun with a new variant strain that the vaccine antibodies are only about 50% as effective in subduing. Estimates are that by the end of March it will be 90% of the new cases. It isn't over. It will never be over.
 
mateomaui  
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2021-02-25 4:00:14 PM  
The Wiz... I enjoyed it, but it had some weird stuff... like Michael Jackson as the scarecrow, getting disemboweled in some way by... I can't remember who or what at this point. It's been a while.
 
jjorsett  
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2021-02-25 4:09:27 PM  

rewind2846: lifeslammer: I think its much easier to scare people into good behavior by simply replacing 95% effective with 1 in 20 odds you still get infected

Hand them a bowl of 100 jellybeans and tell them that five of those jellybeans will still make them sick. At random. Eat up.


Except that to be accurate you'd also have to tell them that the sickness, even if they notice it at all, won't kill them and it won't even make them sick enough to be hospitalized, which is what those testing the vaccines have found: 100% effective in preventing serious illness. For a lot of people that might be good enough to risk going back to life as it was before.
 
i^2  
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2021-02-25 4:11:22 PM  

mrmopar5287: Herr Morgenstern: It baffles me that people don't understand this.

Most people don't understand this because they've all experienced a lifetime of diseases that you get once. Chicken pox? Measles? Mumps? Whooping cough? You get those once and you're done with them. We didn't live a lifetime of people getting measles and then being told they had to stay inside forever because they can get it again.


For measles, that's really super extra wrong.

Spoiler alert: we've recently learned that measles can reset the immune system memory, meaning you're vulnerable to all the diseases you've already had that your body had previously developed immunity to.
 
Stibium  
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2021-02-25 4:12:00 PM  

mrmopar5287: Most people don't understand this because they've all experienced a lifetime of diseases that you get once


They don't understand it because they refuse to do so. You don't get the flu once and never get it again, and the flu is the closest comparison, except it is more contagious, more deadly, will hurt the entire time it's killing you, and even if you survive you could still suffer permanent organ damage.

These qualities are not at all difficult to understand, unless you are literally three years old.
 
Stibium  
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2021-02-25 4:14:23 PM  

gretzkyscores: Noah_Tall: I fully intend to continue my current habits even after being vaccinated

stuhayes2010: Uhm, no. I'm fully vaccinated (healthcare worker) and I live my life exactly the same as I have for the past year; masks, distance, etc.


Again, why? I truly don't understand the "I'm vaccinated now but not changing anything or going back to normal" mindset. This seems to be like someone slathering themselves in SPF 100 sunscreen in June yet still refusing to go out to get the mail.


Because nothing has changed, except the fact that you probably won't die from the shiat. You can stil get sick, and you can still give it to other people. This isn't rocket science...
 
2021-02-25 4:26:10 PM  

alex10294: Evil Mackerel: What the fear mongers want you to believe receiving the vaccination is like:

[Fark user image 500x208] [View Full Size image _x_]

Something slightly closer to reality.

[Fark user image 240x173] [View Full Size image _x_]

/Other than being Trek

Personally, I was in bed shaking and sweating for 28 hours after my Moderna #2.  It was horrible, and I haven't felt that sick since I had the flu at 19 years old 25 years ago.  Then it went away like magic. That happened, more or less time, to about 20% of the people at my hospital.  Call-outs got so bad, that they told us to get it on days when we didn't have to work the next day, after initially telling us it'd be fine.  I haven't called out sick in 6 years, and if I had to work the next day, I would have.

Still glad I got it, but please don't make it seem like it won't suck, because that's causing a lot of ED visits with misinformed people presenting for post-vaccine symptoms.


Point taken.
 
natazha [BareFark]  
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2021-02-25 4:32:37 PM  

Stibium: mrmopar5287: Most people don't understand this because they've all experienced a lifetime of diseases that you get once

They don't understand it because they refuse to do so. You don't get the flu once and never get it again, and the flu is the closest comparison, except it is more contagious, more deadly, will hurt the entire time it's killing you, and even if you survive you could still suffer permanent organ damage.

These qualities are not at all difficult to understand, unless you are literally

mentally three years old.

fify
 
2021-02-25 4:48:52 PM  
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Stibium  
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2021-02-25 4:50:07 PM  

natazha: Stibium: mrmopar5287: Most people don't understand this because they've all experienced a lifetime of diseases that you get once

They don't understand it because they refuse to do so. You don't get the flu once and never get it again, and the flu is the closest comparison, except it is more contagious, more deadly, will hurt the entire time it's killing you, and even if you survive you could still suffer permanent organ damage.

These qualities are not at all difficult to understand, unless you are literally mentally three years old.

fify


Yea, that's a nice joke and all, but if you are trying to reason with an adult who is mentally 3 years old you are wasting both of your time. Failing that, there is no reason for anyone to not understand what's up without sheer wilful ignorance.

Basically, if someone says they don't understand, they either refuse to do so as a conscious decision, or they are straight up lying to you.
 
2021-02-25 4:50:47 PM  

gretzkyscores: KodosZardoz: Don't worry, we still all wear masks when outside and know that immunity won't kick in for another couple weeks at least. And even afterward they know to always wear masks to protect others

uh...why? That's just silly. The very definition of "vaccination" means you are now immune to becoming sick and infectious.

If what's being injected into people doesn't confer immunity, then it's not a "vaccine."


It's not 100% effective. There is a small chance you can still be a carrier.
 
2021-02-25 4:52:11 PM  

gretzkyscores: KodosZardoz: Don't worry, we still all wear masks when outside and know that immunity won't kick in for another couple weeks at least. And even afterward they know to always wear masks to protect others

uh...why? That's just silly. The very definition of "vaccination" means you are now immune to becoming sick and infectious.

If what's being injected into people doesn't confer immunity, then it's not a "vaccine."


https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/yes-you-should-still-wear-mask-after-covid-19-vaccination-180977054/
 
2021-02-25 4:53:13 PM  

GranoblasticMan: Is this where I admit I grew up in a very white area and never saw The Wiz?


The Wiz was broadcast on subscription cable television in the 1980's. Are you in that time zone? ;)
 
Stratohead  
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2021-02-25 5:08:25 PM  

minnesotaboy: Racka Fracka gotta do everything myself...

[Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/mt05jZWJVPA]


came here for Brand New Day...

/now off to weep for Teeny.
 
Stratohead  
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2021-02-25 5:11:42 PM  

GranoblasticMan: Is this where I admit I grew up in a very white area and never saw The Wiz?


no this is where you let people know your family was to broke ass to afford HBO.

/personally was very happy to get to see the movie as I'd been seeing commericials for the Broadway Musical on WPIX 11 for years (despite living hundreds of miles from NYC)
 
inner ted  
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2021-02-25 5:31:31 PM  

gretzkyscores: rewind2846: Hand them a bowl of 100 jellybeans and tell them that five of those jellybeans will still make them sick. At random. Eat up.

That's only half the rules. Also be sure to tell them that if they don't reach in to pick a random jellybean, they will probably lose their job, their life savings, their business, and will never again enjoy live sports, concerts, weddings, funerals, art fairs, dining out, or a drink at the pub with family, friends, and the conviviality of strangers.

Not sure about you, but I'd reach into that bowl of jellybeans every day for the rest of my life, because while the length of life might end up being less due to sickness, the quality of that life would be normal and pleasurable.


live life 365 bro
 
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