FTFA:
"We were meant to be parents and we were meant even more to be parents to Brian"

nothing happens for a reason. Infinite causes, sure, but it's all numerical chaos. This bullshiat wishful thinking is what's preventing our species from having a pleasant, or at least not as dire, immediate future.

Fertility Warriors? Really? At what price and consumption of desperately needed resource during a time of plague? If they're warriors they're farking fighting for the wrong army.

Adopt a kid who's already breathing and probably suffering. There's millions. Ice cubes don't need love, living babies do, and there are plenty needy ones to choose from. Your uterus doesn't have to have that workout for you to be a mother. Nor does your baby need to be lily white to be a great child.

I'm pro IVF, it's one path to become Culture, however this waste of resources is almost as criminal as Republicans. How much money and freezer space (again, during a time of plague and global warming-i doubt these freezers are solar powered) are we using to preserve this jism+ovum collection?

Oh yeah, fark pro life precious snowflake quiverful entitlement white supremacists for white babies fark faces too. If you attach the word "warrior" to your ill advised concepts of procreation on an overpopulated world where actual living babies are starving... fark off.

Burchill: uttertosh: Burchill: forteblast: So I guess this couple got the embryos for their kids from a place that stores donated ones.

I wonder why this practice isn't more common among the pro-life crowd. Obviouslythey want to force every pregnant woman to term but the thousands of extra embryos made at the fertility clinic, yeah, we don't need those, destroy them. Or even better, donate them to medical research... the same thing they vilified Planned Parenthood for.

They don't store embryos.

Yes, they do. It's in TFA.

Embryos are fertilised eggs. Are you suggesting they fertilised the egg when she was one? Perhaps don't trust info from something called Good Morning America. They stored  her egg(s).

It was someone else's embryo.

Or is this just bad journalism?

Also, theoretically what you propose is possible.

uttertosh: yohohogreengiant: Burchill: uttertosh: Burchill: forteblast: So I guess this couple got the embryos for their kids from a place that stores donated ones.

I wonder why this practice isn't more common among the pro-life crowd. Obviouslythey want to force every pregnant woman to term but the thousands of extra embryos made at the fertility clinic, yeah, we don't need those, destroy them. Or even better, donate them to medical research... the same thing they vilified Planned Parenthood for.

They don't store embryos.

Yes, they do. It's in TFA.

Embryos are fertilised eggs. Are you suggesting they fertilised the egg when she was one? Perhaps don't trust info from something called Good Morning America. They stored  her egg(s).

It was someone else's embryo.

Or is this just bad journalism?

Also, theoretically what you propose is possible.

National Embryo Donation Center

It's in TFA. I am not Googling that for you.

You have more sense than I do, citizen:

From the NEDC site:

"As a means to save these tiny lives and bring hope to those who desperately want children, the Christian Medical & Dental Associations (CMDA) catalyzed and planned, along with the Baptist Hospital for Women and Southeastern Fertility Center, the development of the National Embryo Donation Center (NEDC) in
Knoxville, Tennessee."

My sphincter just clenched.

So I wanted to say they I had just had a triple espresso de cafe Boricua and my blood pressure was in full rage when I posted my screed. My sincere apologies if I offended IVF patients, people struggling to conceive. Good luck, science-speed.

And yet:

1) there are great reasons to have a fully genetically assayed, diverse, robust embryo repository (Children of Men, Interstellar... Etc) also, if sane people ruled, we should have concurrent stem cell lines from these precious snowflakes available on demand for research.

2) NEDC are guaranteed NOT the people you want doing this. If there ever came a genuine global (see point 1) need to break the glass on those ebryocsicles , you'd have to fight these farkers tooth and nail and they'd probably torch it as per God's will rather than allow them to be used to idk... Actually save the human race from extinction.

3) they say 1,000,000 "extra" embryos a year from IVF in the US(this number is disputed). They have embryos decades old. Ok, the scale is bullshiat staggering in terms of money and resource however you slice this. I'm pro IVF, but at a certain point... Come on, how much are we spending/subsidizing (it's US government certified, so that means we're spending some taxes  on this endeavor) this when we're ignoring hungry actually breathing, crying , suffering, babies in our country (but yeah, I understand, they're brown, or the wrong religion... So... Tough titties kids).

3) The "fertility warriors" in TFA are still mad. This "everything has a reason, it was meant to be" ideology/magical thinking is killing us and other species. it's thinly masked prosperity gospel, it promotes class divides, it actually destroys our ability to empathise, to reach out to the other. Things have causes, and I applaud your efforts to know the cause of the infertility and to treat it. Meanwhile, there are actually babies dying from lack of food and love. The resources to this science must also be tempered with the simple economy of how to keep the people (babies) actually alive healthy and well.

4) but Jesus loves capitalism and embryos (distilled to a shot glass argument)

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Thank you for this.

aungen: But I'm a physicist, so I'm out of my lane.
I have no idea what babies are.

Do we have any experts on Fark?

Just treat them like perfect spheres, collisions are inelastic, assume a low coefficient of friction and you'll do at least as well as the parents in TFA