International Mayor Pete bends over for Israel, would keep capital in Jerusalem

the weasel words here are delicious.

Surging 2020 Democrat and South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg tells "Axios on HBO" he wouldn't move the U.S. embassy in Israel back from Jerusalem to Tel Aviv if elected president: "I don't know that we'd gain much by moving it to Tel Aviv."

Why it matters: Many prominent Democrats excoriated President Trump for moving the embassy to Jerusalem. They said it would inflame the region and ruin chances for peace between the Palestinians and Israel. It's telling that a prominent 2020 Democrat, when pressed on the issue, wouldn't reverse Trump's decision.

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"Axios on HBO:" "Would you move the U.S. Embassy in Israel back to Tel Aviv?"

Pete Buttigieg: "I think what's done is done and I don't think the Israelis believe that the U.S. needs to —"

"Axios on HBO:" "So you would leave it?"

Pete Buttigieg "Look, we need a big-picture strategy on the Middle East. I don't know that we'd gain much by moving it to Tel Aviv. I will say — "

"Axios on HBO:" "So President Trump did the right thing?"

Pete Buttigieg: "I didn't say that."

"Axios on HBO:" "Well you did — you wouldn't undo it."

Pete Buttigieg: "That doesn't mean he did the right thing. Here's the problem with what he did ... f you're going to make a concession like that, if you're going to give somebody something that they've wanted for a long time in the context of a push-pull, even with a strong ally like Israel, right? We have a push-pull relationship. And you don't do that without getting some kind of concession. Instead, we've seen the Israeli government continue to act in ways that are detrimental to peace. And I believe, therefore, also detrimental to U.S. interests."

Pete Buttigieg: "It’s the same thing with recognition of the Golan. Look, the Israeli claims in the Golan or not something to be ignored. They have a lot to do with legitimate security interests. But when we did that, we were doing something that could have been part of a negotiated package, and instead we just gave it away. Worse, we gave it away probably for the specific purpose of having an impact in Israeli domestic politics, which should be the last reason that we would be conducting U.S. foreign policy. It should be designed around American values, American interests and American international relationships."

"Axios on HBO:" "Do you support a right of return for the Palestinian refugees? That's of course the principle the Palestinian refugees, or their descendants,have a right to return to the land or property they were forced out of during the 1948 and 1967 wars. ... Do you support the right of return?"

Pete Buttigieg: "I think that concept can be honored in the context of a negotiated peace. I don't think it should be presumptively declared by a U.S. presidential candidate. I'm concerned, though, that we're walking away from the possibility of peace, when you have the Israeli government talking about annexing parts of the West Bank."

"Axios on HBO:" "So you would not insist on that?"

Pete Buttigieg: "I think it could be honored as part of the framework of a negotiation. I'm not going to declare it at the outset as a precondition for peace."


https://www.axios.com/pete-buttigie...utm_medium=twsocialshare&utm_campaign=organic

Sadly, this is the least concerning thing most dem candidates are talking about.

Warren has added some of the only ideas of value.. To go along with embarassing, and ugly, pandering.

He knows not to touch President Trumps work.

Geeze that transcript is annoying. Interviewer Repeatedly cutting him off to put words in his mouth. Should have walked away from that dick of a host who wouldn't let a candidate simply speak his mind, and instead trying to trap him into a soundbite

HockeyBjj said:

Geeze that transcript is annoying. Interviewer Repeatedly cutting him off to put words in his mouth. Should have walked away from that dick of a host who wouldn't let a candidate simply speak his mind, and instead trying to trap him into a soundbite

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He is running for fucking president and is a big boy, the left is gonna be much harder on him over this. The interviewer cut through his bullshit platitudes and did a fine job. I wish Linda Sarsour was interviewing his ass.

I don't agree with his general position on and toward Israel, but dammit all if he didn't make a very cogent and reasonable case for his point in that interview.

Amerikuracana said:

Sadly, this is the least concerning thing most dem candidates are talking about.

Warren has added some of the only ideas of value.. To go along with embarassing, and ugly, pandering.

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lol

Trotsky said:

I don't agree with his general position on and toward Israel, but dammit all if he didn't make a very cogent and reasonable case for his point in that interview.



lol

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Lol at what? What 60% of the country is pointing out as obviously true? Stop.

The Palestinians are not going to accept any deal with Israel ever unless it’s just them leaving Israel. Period. Maybe you get something with the West Bank group but not Gaza. So make that deal and move on. I don’t care about the Golan and they don’t seem to either, it had reasonable support in Golan. Adding more stuff to the deal isn’t going to make it happen. So don’t add to it, just give the Palestinians some land and draw the line. Nothing will ever satisfy them. Move on

Amerikuracana said:

Lol at what? What 60% of the country is pointing out as obviously true? Stop.

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lol @ your continued "I have good faith interest in Democratic policies and perspectives" shtick. The fact that the Democrats are the only party with actual policies with coherent details and support from experts is irrelevant. Your feigned regard for the Democratic Party and race is just a pretext for your shilling for the GOP: since no one can actually defend the GOP on the basis of its policies, because none of them are remotely defensible, they have to switch it to "yeah, the GOP's policies are objectively corrupt and terrible, but the Democrats are worse because identity politics, race wars, tranny bathrooms, etc."

"Mayor Pete bends over..."

Trotsky said:

lol @ your continued "I have good faith interest in Democratic policies and perspectives" shtick. The fact that the Democrats are the only party with actual policies with coherent details and support from experts is irrelevant. Your feigned regard for the Democratic Party and race is just a pretext for your shilling for the GOP: since no one can actually defend the GOP on the basis of its policies, because none of them are remotely defensible, they have to switch it to "yeah, the GOP's policies are objectively corrupt and terrible, but the Democrats are worse because identity politics, race wars, tranny bathrooms, etc."

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Nope you've got me wrong. I don't shill for the gop. I'm pushing back against the establishment push towards leftist social engineering and insanity right now, but I sure didn't vote for mitt Romney, even though he seems like a decent enough guy.

Poll after poll has shown that liberal Democratic primary voters are less sympathetic to Israel than they were in previous years. Likely as a result, most Democratic presidential campaigns for 2020 have bucked tradition and openly expressed their criticisms of the tiny Middle Eastern nation.

But Pete Buttigieg, the 2020 Democratic hopeful and mayor of South Bend, Indiana, isn’t one of those candidates. While he’s no fan of Netanyahu’s leadership, he has shown a consistent willingness to back Israel.

He did so again on Sunday in an interview with Axios on HBO, in which he said he wouldn’t reverse Trump’s embassy-move decision and called the country a “strong ally.”

“I think what’s done is done,” the former Navy intelligence officer said. “I don’t know that we’d gain much by moving it [back] to Tel Aviv.”

https://www.vox.com/2019/6/17/18681679/pete-buttigieg-israel-jerusalem-embassy

nostradumbass said:

"Mayor Pete bends over..."

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The whole point of the thread was a gay buttseks joke.

Not in the least surprising. Both parties are completely beholden to Israel.

Wonder if anyone else noticed that when the mainstream media, and liberal media especially, were criticising Trump for a number of issues, they never criticized him for moving the embassy to Jerusalem and never said anything about giving Israel the ok to annex the Golan Heights. So criticize Trump for everything but Israel.

JonesBones said:

Surging 2020 Democrat and South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg tells "Axios on HBO" he wouldn't move the U.S. embassy in Israel back from Jerusalem to Tel Aviv if elected president: "I don't know that we'd gain much by moving it to Tel Aviv."

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Can someone teach this idiot geography? Perhaps someone can actually explain to him how Jerusalem has never even been part of Israel, let alone her capital.

JonesBones said:

Pete Buttigieg "Look, we need a big-picture strategy on the Middle East. I don't know that we'd gain much by moving it to Tel Aviv. I will say — "

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Why don't we start with turning the hatred from the Arab world that we have garnered only since Israel's existence into love?

Want wold peace? Instead of continually sending troops and blowing up every nation Israel hates, turn our troops on Tel Aviv and we can end this shit in a weekend.

Trotsky said:

I don't agree with his general position on and toward Israel, but dammit all if he didn't make a very cogent and reasonable case for his point in that interview.

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He made a case for an extremely dangerous, racist nation and for zionism that makes peace impossible, you leftist-identity politics buffoon.

JonesBones said:

Poll after poll has shown that liberal Democratic primary voters are less sympathetic to Israel than they were in previous years.

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They are subservient to AIPAC through 'legal' bribery. They have bought both sides for decades!

weird - dp

How does the US "give" Golan Heights? It isn't ours to give. Israel took it in war, if they can defend it it's theirs.

Bow to Israel. Bow!

But Zionist jews have no control over the western world.

Only idiot left wing delusional tards r arab/muslim sympathiszers/fans disagree with the move or Golan heights being Israel.

Your Congress and all past presidents also said to move it. Lol at moving it back to appease Arab sunnis.