Does USADA's Improved Testing legitimizes the Picogram / Pulsing Theory? ( Jon Jones)

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Turinabol really hasn't been around that long.

Prior to 2015 Oral Turinabol could only be tested for 5-7 days, from that point forward It was a 4-6 month window. It sounds like they still don't know a lot about Turinabol and It's metabolites. Based on the current trajectory, It doesn't seem too far fetched that the detection window has only continued to expand with both Increased knowledge and superior testing.

Mir himself said he was told this stuff could stay In his system for up to 2 years, this was before Jon had even tested positive the first time. Which seems to indicate there's more credibility to this Idea than It's given credit and maybe we shouldn't be so quick to immediately assume corruption.

TJ popping Is another example of how USADA's knowledge of these substances and testing potency continues to Improve. It's safe to assume this is probably the case across the whole spectrum of testing.

So, my thought Is..maybe there's more legitimacy to the pulsing theory than we are giving It credit for.
 
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The legitimacy of USADA turned to shit as soon as it was obvious that stars get a free pass to roid while undercard guys get banned for life. It is literally worse than nothing because it makes the playing field even more uneven than no testing.

I don't see how TJ popping changes that in the slightest.
 
The legitimacy of USADA turned to shit as soon as it was obvious that stars get a free pass to roid while undercard guys get banned for life. It is literally worse than nothing because it makes the playing field even more uneven than no testing.

I don't see how TJ popping changes that in the slightest.
I wonder how you guys say things like this with a straight face
 
Yes
BONES HATERS ON SUICIDE WATCH
JON JONES = GOAT

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I wonder how you guys say things like this with a straight face
Great rebuttal.

Let me guess... you're a guy that says Brock and Jones are innocent right? Just a coincidence there's zero accountability past a certain point in terms of marketing?
 
Great rebuttal.

Let me guess... you're a guy that says Brock and Jones are innocent right? Just a coincidence there's zero accountability past a certain point in terms of marketing?

you fersureee know more then scientists who study steroids 100% my man
the UFC should hire you to explain steroids
 
All those picograms from a tainted supplement that never turned up.

That's some real Science right there boi!

Damn, would you like some supplement with your taint? How much contamination was in that protein shake to let him pulse several years after?

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Fuck the steroids, let just find a supplement with summa dat taint!

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Oh yes, and he just took the dick pill, not clomiphene that was also on the receipt.

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Great rebuttal.

Let me guess... you're a guy that says Brock and Jones are innocent right? Just a coincidence there's zero accountability past a certain point in terms of marketing?
Would've been cool if you actually read the thread before posting

I don't personally think Jon Is clean necessarily(they're all on steroids), but the turinabol thing was always sketchy to me. It just seems like the absolute worse steroid that anyone would want to do, especially repeatedly. Extremely easy to detect, Impossible to mask and ridiculously long half life, everything that you don't want In a steroid under USADA.
 
you fersureee know more then scientists who study steroids 100% my man
the UFC should hire you to explain steroids
Yep. So your position is Brock and Jones are steroid free. Just an internet conspiracy, certainly not based on multiple positive steroid tests or anything.

Thanks for saving me the time of not actually wasting time on you.

Would've been cool if you actually read the thread before posting

I don't personally think Jon Is clean necessarily(they're all on steroids), but the turinabol thing was always sketchy to me. It just seems like the absolute worse steroid that anyone would want to do, especially repeatedly. Extremely easy to detect, Impossible to mask and ridiculously long half life, everything that you don't want In a steroid under USADA.
I read it man. I'm saying something that has shot its legitimacy to smithereens can't earn legitimacy just by some random guy popping for roids.
 
Great rebuttal.

Let me guess... you're a guy that says Brock and Jones are innocent right? Just a coincidence there's zero accountability past a certain point in terms of marketing?
Brock was suspended. Jones was suspended twice.
 
Yep. So your position is Brock and Jones are steroid free. Just an internet conspiracy, certainly not based on multiple positive steroid tests or anything.

Thanks for saving me the time of not actually wasting time on you.

brock is on steroids, there u happy moron?
 
Yep. So your position is Brock and Jones are steroid free. Just an internet conspiracy, certainly not based on multiple positive steroid tests or anything.

Thanks for saving me the time of not actually wasting time on you.
It’s instead of an internet conspiracy a giant multiple leading organizations conspiracy.
 
It’s instead of an internet conspiracy a giant multiple leading organizations conspiracy.
Are you seriously questioning that billionaires can use money to enact change?

Internet conspiracy = average wage $10 an hour
leading organizations conspiracy = millions of dollars a month

Or are you just messing with me?

Brock was suspended. Jones was suspended twice.
Brock fought on 200 despite all the steroid warnings in the universe appearing at once. Then "retired" again. Jones has tested positive multiple times and his suspensions equal his breaks between fights. While undercard people get banned for life. If you can't see the difference between stars and non-stars I don't know what to tell you.
 
Lance Armstrong wasn’t passing tests due to conspiracy.

If you are willing to cheat by taking steroids; there is an excellent chance you will also try to cheat the testing.
 
Are you seriously questioning that billionaires can use money to enact change?

Internet conspiracy = average wage $10 an hour
leading organizations conspiracy = millions of dollars a month

Or are you just messing with me?
It definitely can and does happen

It doesn't mean that we shouldn't also think critically about these things, automatically assuming corruption In all cases Is absurd.
 
It’s instead of an internet conspiracy a giant multiple leading organizations conspiracy.

I agree it’s just a bad coincidence that someone clean like jones showed up to a fight with questionable test results, and then ends up popping later for banned substances. Jon is just the most unlucky guy in the sport.
 
Are you seriously questioning that billionaires can use money to enact change?

Internet conspiracy = average wage $10 an hour
leading organizations conspiracy = millions of dollars a month

Or are you just messing with me?
Who are the billionaires paying, how much, and how is it such that they are doing it so that laymen sherdoggers can spot it? How are their entire organizations complicit? How is it obvious to sherdog but the US Olympic committee or the federal government who are usada and smrtl biggest revenue sources are openly fine with their anti doping agencies being discredited? Why hasn’t a single expert or other anti doping agency called bullshit?

No one can ever answer these questions.
 
I agree it’s just a bad coincidence that someone clean like jones showed up to a fight with questionable test results, and then ends up popping later for banned substances. Jon is just the most unlucky guy in the sport.
And then repeatedly pops for the same substance at levels consistent with residual use. Because he’s the worst doper of all time.
 
It definitely can and does happen

It doesn't mean that we shouldn't also think critically about these things, automatically assuming corruption In all cases Is absurd.
I don't think it in all cases. Just when it is really really really obvious. Like when they saying pulsing for picograms happens for multiple years and excuses multiple failures for one marketing star, while at the same time they life-ban non-stars. I literally can't think of how it could be more obvious. It is basically practical joke level already.

Who are the billionaires paying, how much, and how is it such that they are doing it so that laymen sherdoggers can spot it? How are their entire organizations complicit? How is it obvious to sherdog but the US Olympic committee or the federal government who are usada and smrtl biggest revenue sources are openly fine with their anti doping agencies being discredited? Why hasn’t a single expert or other anti doping agency called bullshit?

No one can ever answer these questions.
I know better than to explain anything as unbelievably simple as how money can be used to buy influence to you, because you clearly have an objective and just want to attack me on the first page which generates the most views.

This and the other 400 threads on the same topic and you always have the same exact pitch to try and discredit anyone who questions UFC and USADA.
 
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