International Leaks from Biden admin shows they do deserve full blame for Afghanistan

• The document regarded "Relocations out of Afghanistan," and the meeting was held from 3:30-4:30pm on the afternoon of Aug. 14, Washington time.
• At that moment, Taliban fighters were descending upon Kabul.
• The meeting was chaired by National Security Council official Liz Sherwood-Randall and included senior officials across multiple agencies, including Gen. John Hyten, vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

• "I kept being told by people in the [White House] the thing they were most concerned about was the optics of a chaotic evacuation," said Matt Zeller, a former CIA officer who contacted administration officials in February 2021 about protecting Afghans who worked with the Americans. "They treated us like we were Chicken Little. They didn’t believe the sky was falling."

• "On the 13th of July, we offered to work with them to help evacuate our partners," Zeller added. "We all saw this disaster coming before the inevitable occurred. They didn’t get back to us until Aug 15, the day Kabul fell."

cottagecheesefan said:

I know posters, including a few on the right have said they don't believe Biden deserves all the blame/credit for the terrible Afghan withdrawal, and that it was bound to happen. However, others argue that the chaos and quick evacuation that lead to the attack was due to the administration.

Keep in mind the time line too. Taliban officially officially took Kabul on 8/15 and the airport bombing was 8/26. According to the leak, 8/14 was the first Biden admin joint meeting about evacuating people, despite receiving many warnings from many people as early as February.

Axios (a liberal source, not Fox, Project Veritas, etc) reporting on documents they obtained.


https://www.axios.com/leaked-docume...res-c27d790c-3a50-4734-8543-7db710898bb2.html




Some highlights. The admin did NOT have a meeting on relocating people until 8/14, the day the Taliban reached Kabul:

• The document regarded "Relocations out of Afghanistan," and the meeting was held from 3:30-4:30pm on the afternoon of Aug. 14, Washington time.
• At that moment, Taliban fighters were descending upon Kabul.
• The meeting was chaired by National Security Council official Liz Sherwood-Randall and included senior officials across multiple agencies, including Gen. John Hyten, vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

Many outside advisers were sounding the alarm as the Taliban swept through provincial capitals heading into August. Here they have a CIA operative saying they had been in contact with the admin since February.

• "I kept being told by people in the [White House] the thing they were most concerned about was the optics of a chaotic evacuation," said Matt Zeller, a former CIA officer who contacted administration officials in February 2021 about protecting Afghans who worked with the Americans. "They treated us like we were Chicken Little. They didn’t believe the sky was falling."

• "On the 13th of July, we offered to work with them to help evacuate our partners," Zeller added. "We all saw this disaster coming before the inevitable occurred. They didn’t get back to us until Aug 15, the day Kabul fell."

Mark Jacobson, deputy NATO representative in Afghanistan during the Obama administration, told Axios: "That so much planning, prioritizing and addressing of key questions had not been completed, even as Kabul was about to fall, underscores the absence of adequate interagency planning."

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steveflynn said:

Easily the best thing he's done so far is getting out of Afghanistan. Don't really care that much about the process.

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Confucamus said:

While I agree that getting out of there was of paramount importance, you don't care about the process? If there was prior intel that could have potentially helped avoid the deaths of those 12 Marines and it was given to the Biden admin and ignored, wouldn't that outrage you?

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Confucamus said:

While I agree that getting out of there was of paramount importance, you don't care about the process? If there was prior intel that could have potentially helped avoid the deaths of those 12 Marines and it was given to the Biden admin and ignored, wouldn't that outrage you?

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Confucamus said:

I initially defended Biden, as that was never going to be a clean and easy evacuation from that shithole. But I'd be interested to see where this story goes and how much advanced knowledge they had. Don't expect anything from it though. The media will ignore it much like they shrugged off the 12 marines dying, the Afghans falling off an evacuating military plane, and $60 billion worth of military weapons and transportation forfeited to the enemy. There will be no commission to investigate it. It'll just go away.

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method115 said:

Honestly could care less. I'm just glad we are out of that fucking place.

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steveflynn said:

How could the administration have prevented the military deaths of the Marines exactly? They died from a suicide bomber which is an extremely common occurrence (unfortunately) in the Middle East.

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