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(CNY Central)   It's been 10 days since all the 4th of July parties. Let's see what the good book says about how the best-performing COVID-19 state, NY, is doing. Here it is... uh-huh. I see. That certainly makes sense. We're boned   (cnycentral.com) divider line
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2020-07-14 7:05:56 PM  
and there have been a bunch of cases from people returning from fla and ga

we're gone from *adjusts arbitrary endpoints* 918 cases on 7/2 to 912 on 7/13

let's give it another week or two to accurately judge how boned we were
 
Algebrat [TotalFark]  
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2020-07-14 8:40:31 PM  

Dead for Tax Reasons: and there have been a bunch of cases from people returning from fla and ga

we're gone from *adjusts arbitrary endpoints* 918 cases on 7/2 to 912 on 7/13

let's give it another week or two to accurately judge how boned we were


While we wait, can we start cracking each other's skulls or sucking each other's dicks just to be safe?
 
Smidge204  
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2020-07-14 8:42:31 PM  
For those not wanting to give a Sinclair site a click, here's the story; Link in the story is to another story ont he same site...

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Fourth of July parties lead to new cases of COVID-19 in New York, governor says

Independence Day parties over the Fourth of July weekend lead to new cases of COVID-19, says Gov. Andrew Cuomo. Cuomo says that the state's contact tracing efforts for new cases of the virus found that 35 percent of people who attended a Fourth of July weekend party in Suffolk County - or more than 1\/3 of the entire party - became infected with COVID-19.

Locally, Onondaga County Executive Ryan McMahon said over the weekend that two people who were at a popular hangout at Skaneateles Lake on the holiday had tested positive for the virus, warning everyone that was there to get tested.

"It's clear based on contact tracing that many of the new cases in New York are a result of a lack of compliance during the July 4 weekend and illustrate how quickly the virus spreads, with one party, for example, infecting more than a third of attendees," Governor Cuomo continued. "I cannot be more clear: Look at what's happening in the rest of the country - if we are not smart, if we don't wear masks and socially distance, cases will spike. No one wants to go back to the hell we experienced three months ago, so please stay vigilant."

The latest COVID-19 data provided by the state as of Tuesday:

Patient Hospitalization - 820 (+28)
Patients Newly Admitted - 71 (+11)
Hospital Counties - 31
Number ICU - 167 (-8)
Number ICU with Intubation - 101 (-2)
Total Discharges - 71,692 (+49)
Deaths - 5
Total Deaths - 24,994
 
2020-07-14 8:42:45 PM  
Well, NY certainly isn't alone in their spike. Let's see how other states are doing:
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wichitaleaf  
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2020-07-14 8:45:57 PM  
Jeebus Christmas people.   We are testing 640,000 people a day now in the US.  Cases are going up....deaths not so much.  I get it one death is bad but get real.
 
zeroman987  
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2020-07-14 8:48:05 PM  

wichitaleaf: Jeebus Christmas people.   We are testing 640,000 people a day now in the US.  Cases are going up....deaths not so much.  I get it one death is bad but get real.


It's not enough. Look at the positive rate.

Anything over 3 percent and the state is not keeping up with testing/testing enough. Like Florida, Arizona, Georgia, Texas, etc.

Deaths lag.  Usually 2-3 weeks after they test positive.
 
apathy2673  
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2020-07-14 8:49:09 PM  
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2020-07-14 8:50:06 PM  

wichitaleaf: Jeebus Christmas people.   We are testing 640,000 people a day now in the US.  Cases are going up....deaths not so much.  I get it one death is bad but get real.


Death is not the worst-case outcome of COVID-19.
 
OlderGuy [TotalFark]  
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2020-07-14 8:50:49 PM  
 Every person that has not been exposed to the virus eventually will... more cases... it will be here until it runs out of hosts to replicate it.
 
Ivo Shandor [TotalFark] [OhFark]  
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2020-07-14 8:53:10 PM  

wichitaleaf: Cases are going up....deaths not so much.


Deaths lag the new cases by a few weeks.
Dying is not the only option. Survivors may face months or years of serious complications.
Full hospitals and overworked doctors will reduce the quality of care for other patients (heart attacks etc).
 
2020-07-14 8:54:56 PM  

zeroman987: wichitaleaf: Jeebus Christmas people.   We are testing 640,000 people a day now in the US.  Cases are going up....deaths not so much.  I get it one death is bad but get real.

It's not enough. Look at the positive rate.

Anything over 3 percent and the state is not keeping up with testing/testing enough. Like Florida, Arizona, Georgia, Texas, etc.

Deaths lag.  Usually 2-3 weeks after they test positive.


I've heard about the lag for 2 months now.
 
FrancoFile [TotalFark]  
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2020-07-14 8:56:14 PM  
We're gonna be at 200k dead by election day and 250k for the year.
 
2020-07-14 8:57:31 PM  

OlderGuy: Every person that has not been exposed to the virus eventually will... more cases... it will be here until it runs out of hosts to replicate it.


Thank you, Dr Salk.
 
2020-07-14 8:57:37 PM  

Algebrat: Dead for Tax Reasons: and there have been a bunch of cases from people returning from fla and ga

we're gone from *adjusts arbitrary endpoints* 918 cases on 7/2 to 912 on 7/13

let's give it another week or two to accurately judge how boned we were

While we wait, can we start cracking each other's skulls or sucking each other's dicks just to be safe?


these are unprecedented times...
 
2020-07-14 8:59:25 PM  
Damn it, people, can't you farking forgo stupid fireworks for one goddamn year?
 
2020-07-14 8:59:59 PM  
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2020-07-14 9:00:17 PM  

wichitaleaf: Jeebus Christmas people.   We are testing 640,000 people a day now in the US.  Cases are going up....deaths not so much.  I get it one death is bad but get real.


It's no worse than the flu. It'll kill no more than 60,000 by the end of August. The heat of summer will end it.
 
2020-07-14 9:03:15 PM  
Florida had new cases go down today, that means since "deaths lag" deaths will be going down in about 2 weeks.
 
2020-07-14 9:03:21 PM  

Algebrat: While we wait, can we start cracking each other's skulls or sucking each other's dicks just to be safe?


That DOES cover all the bases.
 
WTP 2  
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2020-07-14 9:03:37 PM  
contact tracing
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...people paid to make up counts that they think are accurate...

just like the hospital numbers that Florida have....and are off by 10 times the real count....oops
 
Juc  
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2020-07-14 9:03:43 PM  

wichitaleaf: Jeebus Christmas people.   We are testing 640,000 people a day now in the US.  Cases are going up....deaths not so much.  I get it one death is bad but get real.


If the disease was under control you'd have something like 6,000 cases found with 640,000 tests and not 60,000.
When you get the test positivity rate down to 1% AND you're doing a ton of tests, at that point you can probably say you're doing OK, but right now you're just finding out that you're hooped in greater detail.

hospitals wouldn't be getting overwhelmed if this was just a matter of testing catching more cases by virtue of testing volumes.
 
2020-07-14 9:03:48 PM  

wichitaleaf: zeroman987: wichitaleaf: Jeebus Christmas people.   We are testing 640,000 people a day now in the US.  Cases are going up....deaths not so much.  I get it one death is bad but get real.

It's not enough. Look at the positive rate.

Anything over 3 percent and the state is not keeping up with testing/testing enough. Like Florida, Arizona, Georgia, Texas, etc.

Deaths lag.  Usually 2-3 weeks after they test positive.

I've heard about the lag for 2 months now.


About that.

https://www.wfla.com/community/health/coronavirus/florida-coronavirus-state-sees-record-high-death-count-adds-another-9k-cases/
 
2020-07-14 9:04:17 PM  
I wish I had Photoshop skills so I could put Ron DeSantis's face on Paul Hogan and caption it with "That's not a spike. That's a spike."
 
Mrtraveler01 [TotalFark]  
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2020-07-14 9:05:56 PM  

albuquerquehalsey: [Fark user image image 598x724]


Disproven talking point is disproven.

You guys need new material.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/07/01/research-determines-protests-did-not-cause-spike-in-coronavirus-cases/
 
2020-07-14 9:07:01 PM  
People just want to lock everyone down again to hurt the economy and make Trump look bad before the election. After that you won't hear about it anymore

The democrat party has no shame when it comes to getting their guy into the white house.
 
2020-07-14 9:07:16 PM  

wichitaleaf: I've heard about the lag for 2 months now.


The case fatality rate is strongly affected by age. If more of the new infections are in younger people then a flat # of new cases per day will correspond to a decline in the # of deaths. Medical treatments are also improving, so someone who would have had a ventilator shoved down his throat a few months ago may now get anti-inflammatory and anti-coagulant drugs which prevent that outcome.

None of which means that the disease isn't a real problem, or that it isn't rapidly getting much worse in the United States over the last few weeks.
 
2020-07-14 9:07:17 PM  

FrancoFile: We're gonna be at 200k dead by election day and 250k for the year.


Don't fap too hard.
 
ENS  
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2020-07-14 9:07:50 PM  
Drove by an outdoor eating establishment in Nassau county an hour ago and it was packed with maskless idiots sitting right near each other like sardines.

We're doomed.
 
luna1580 [TotalFark]  
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2020-07-14 9:07:56 PM  
WAIT! you mean to tell me large groups of adult humans, largely meeting unmasked, be they inside or outside, and then getting drunk, might lead to what my sister in chicago has now termed "the wine hugs?"

you, know, where frustrated people who've been isolating for ages -and/or people who though isolating was stupid to begin with- all get drunk together, and then get touchy-feely, sing and shout and scream and laugh (and maybe puke or cough), and generally just act like COVID never existed...

you mean THAT behavior could spread this virus???

fetch me my couch, my SaO2 is getting really low... 😣
 
LordJiro [OhFark]  
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2020-07-14 9:08:32 PM  

Mrtraveler01: albuquerquehalsey: [Fark user image image 598x724]

Disproven talking point is disproven.

You guys need new material.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/07/01/research-determines-protests-did-not-cause-spike-in-coronavirus-cases/


The GOP Approved Talking Point is that doctors didn't ask if COVID patients had been to the protests, and therefore there is no way to judge whether the protests caused spikes. It's clearly impossible.
 
2020-07-14 9:09:06 PM  

litheandnubile: *low energy trolling*


Dude, you have to put more effort into this than what you're giving right now.
 
2020-07-14 9:09:36 PM  

wichitaleaf: Jeebus Christmas people.   We are testing 640,000 people a day now in the US.  Cases are going up....deaths not so much.  I get it one death is bad but get real.


Yes, the public health authorities in every other country on Earth are too stupid to figure out the secret relationship between testing and cases that you personally have figured out. Such incredible intellect is too valuable to be wasted on Fark. Quick, to the airport. It's imperative you Freedumsplain to the world's epidemiologists how they are wrong to enforce a travel ban on the USA.
 
Eegah [BareFark]  
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2020-07-14 9:10:16 PM  

wichitaleaf: zeroman987: wichitaleaf: Jeebus Christmas people.   We are testing 640,000 people a day now in the US.  Cases are going up....deaths not so much.  I get it one death is bad but get real.

It's not enough. Look at the positive rate.

Anything over 3 percent and the state is not keeping up with testing/testing enough. Like Florida, Arizona, Georgia, Texas, etc.

Deaths lag.  Usually 2-3 weeks after they test positive.

I've heard about the lag for 2 months now.


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Mock26  
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2020-07-14 9:11:01 PM  
My idea for the fourth would have led to absolutely 0 new hot spots. They should have loaded all the fireworks up onto flatbed trucks and then drove around town and at every home launch a firework in through the front window. Well, it would have led to 0 new COVID-19 hot spots. 
;-)
 
Juc  
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2020-07-14 9:11:13 PM  

LordJiro: Mrtraveler01: albuquerquehalsey: [Fark user image image 598x724]

Disproven talking point is disproven.

You guys need new material.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/07/01/research-determines-protests-did-not-cause-spike-in-coronavirus-cases/

The GOP Approved Talking Point is that doctors didn't ask if COVID patients had been to the protests, and therefore there is no way to judge whether the protests caused spikes. It's clearly impossible.


ya know the protests if anything are showing the efficacy of face masks.
Tons of people in the protests wore them, and the transmission rate was far less than I feared it was going to be, barely a blip, one of the few pleasant surprises I've had this year.
 
LordJiro [OhFark]  
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2020-07-14 9:11:41 PM  

OlderGuy: Every person that has not been exposed to the virus eventually will... more cases... it will be here until it runs out of hosts to replicate it.


Or, y'know, we could do what civilized countries are doing. Mandate masks, shut down nonessential businesses for a good long while, freeze rent/mortgages, and pay people to stay home. Y'know, deprive it of hosts for it to jump to.

Psh, nah, that's just crazy talk. Here in America, we don't do what other countries do, no matter HOW well it works. We do our own stupid thing, shoot ourselves in the feet repeatedly, and claim that we're the best country evar because of reasons.
 
2020-07-14 9:12:17 PM  
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luna1580 [TotalFark]  
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2020-07-14 9:12:34 PM  

litheandnubile: People just want to lock everyone down again to hurt the economy and make Trump look bad before the election. After that you won't hear about it anymore

The democrat party has no shame when it comes to getting their guy into the white house.


you might be way too brand new to know, but those "talking points" won't work here.

have a nice night. stay safe!
 
2020-07-14 9:13:06 PM  

LordJiro: Mrtraveler01: albuquerquehalsey: [Fark user image image 598x724]

Disproven talking point is disproven.

You guys need new material.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/07/01/research-determines-protests-did-not-cause-spike-in-coronavirus-cases/

The GOP Approved Talking Point is that doctors didn't ask if COVID patients had been to the protests, and therefore there is no way to judge whether the protests caused spikes. It's clearly impossible.


I've heard that too.

That talking point doesn't even make sense. Because there aren't spikes in NY, Chicago, and Minneapolis like there are down south.

The only way that talking point makes sense is if the protestors are too afraid to get the COVID tests in the first place. If they aren't asking if they participated in the protests, then what incentive would they have to avoid getting tested?
 
wichitaleaf  
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2020-07-14 9:15:20 PM  

litheandnubile: People just want to lock everyone down again to hurt the economy and make Trump look bad before the election. After that you won't hear about it anymore

The democrat party has no shame when it comes to getting their guy into the white house.


Dude get out of here with your common sense.
 
2020-07-14 9:16:07 PM  

ENS: Drove by an outdoor eating establishment in Nassau county an hour ago and it was packed with maskless idiots sitting right near each other like sardines.

We're doomed.


Yet none of them died.
 
2020-07-14 9:16:46 PM  
led/lead


/grr
 
Eegah [BareFark]  
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2020-07-14 9:17:42 PM  

wichitaleaf: litheandnubile: People just want to lock everyone down again to hurt the economy and make Trump look bad before the election. After that you won't hear about it anymore

The democrat party has no shame when it comes to getting their guy into the white house.

Dude get out of here with your common sense partisan stupidity.


The trolls have been activated
 
2020-07-14 9:17:57 PM  

wichitaleaf: ENS: Drove by an outdoor eating establishment in Nassau county an hour ago and it was packed with maskless idiots sitting right near each other like sardines.

We're doomed.

Yet none of them died.


Yet
 
2020-07-14 9:18:08 PM  

SloppyFrenchKisser: [i.redd.it image 500x648]


Hmm. At least their not throwing bricks thru businesses and stealing.
 
2020-07-14 9:18:25 PM  

Eegah: wichitaleaf: litheandnubile: People just want to lock everyone down again to hurt the economy and make Trump look bad before the election. After that you won't hear about it anymore

The democrat party has no shame when it comes to getting their guy into the white house.

Dude get out of here with your common sense partisan stupidity.

The trolls have been activated


It's cute when the trolls start hitting on each other.
 
2020-07-14 9:19:36 PM  

BuffaloToban: Well, NY certainly isn't alone in their spike. Let's see how other states are doing:
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look at you being all smug in Happy Town. enjoy it while it lasts. soon millions of 'muricans are going to sneak over the border in hopes of a better life. beware a NY accent -cough cough-.
 
LordJiro [OhFark]  
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2020-07-14 9:20:00 PM  

wichitaleaf: SloppyFrenchKisser: [i.redd.it image 500x648]

Hmm. At least their not throwing bricks thru businesses and stealing.


Well, yeah. They're not cops.
 
luna1580 [TotalFark]  
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2020-07-14 9:20:10 PM  

wichitaleaf: ENS: Drove by an outdoor eating establishment in Nassau county an hour ago and it was packed with maskless idiots sitting right near each other like sardines.

We're doomed.

Yet none of them died.


yet...
 
2020-07-14 9:21:13 PM  

Juc: ya know the protests if anything are showing the efficacy of face masks.


Worst: inside without masks
Not too bad: inside with masks
Not too bad: outside without masks
Best: outside with masks

I don't know the relative ordering of the middle two. Anecdotally there were infected hair stylists wearing masks, and unmasked outdoor pool parties, which did not lead to further infections. That doesn't prove anything by itself since we know there can be large differences in how infectious a given person is. A "super spreader" in either of those situations might have been able to shed enough virus to infect others, but I haven't seen it happen yet. And even a "low risk" situation does not guarantee safety. Sometimes you roll a natural 1.
 
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