Striker vs Striker fights are destined to fail (MVP vs Daley, Ngannou vs Lewis & Till vs Thompson)

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How have matchmakers and fans not noticed that generally speaking these striker vs striker fighters always end up sucking? When the fights get announced everyone is like "OMFG so keen someone is getting KO'd" but it never happens it just turns into a staring competition because they cancel each other. How many fights is it going to take for people to notice, MVP vs Daley, Ngannou vs Lewis, Till vs Thompson, Silva vs Adesanya, etc.

There's a reason I don't watch boxing or kickboxing nearly as much these days because when world class strikers vs each other a lot of the time it turns into a shit show, what is great about MMA is the threat of grappling changes the whole dynamics of the fight and allows for more brutal finishes. In boxing when have super fights ended in the first round with such frequency as DC vs Stipe, TJ vs Cejudo and Cyborg vs Nunes. If you want to see brutal early finishes between high-level opponents watch MMA, don't watch boxing, kickboxing or a matchup between 2 strikers in MMA.

TLDR; fights are much much better when there is a contrast in styles
 
Yeah that's why I'm not hyped by these fight anymore. When that type of fight is announced i'm not excpect anything special, so I'm not disapointed at the end.
 
JDS vs Hunt. Hunt vs Silva. Two great striker vs striker fights.

Also Lawler vs Condit, Diaz vs McGregor 2, Swanson vs Choi, Stephens vs Choi, Gaethje vs any striker. Just off the top of my head.
 
There are good ones and bad ones.
Just like wrestler vs wrestler
Just like BJJ guy vs BJJ guy
 
Yeah that's why I'm not hyped by these fight anymore. When that type of fight is announced i'm not excpect anything special, so I'm not disapointed at the end.
I'm the exact same, sure every 1 and a million is decent but most of the time I know it's either going to be completely boring or the more conditioned fighter will get over in the end.
 
Does Paul Daley have any fans left?

I don't blame fans who still liked him after the Kos punch. It's raw, uncontrolled spirit, and he's a fun fighter. The way he mocked Fitch while being owned.

His outbursts and hate for wrestlers is almost likable.

Then he sold it all out in less than 2 minutes, and doubled down in the third. He's a phony.

Any Daley fans left?
 
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JDS vs Hunt. Hunt vs Silva. Two great striker vs striker fights.
I think that is more a product of Hunt being purely an offensive striker and not a defensive striker (he doesn't have to be because he has an insane chin), hunt vs overeem was a decent fight as well but like I say it's more that hunt and even overeem for that matter do not give a fuck if they get KO'd whereas most strikers are completely afraid of getting beaten at what they believe is there greatest asset.
 
Depends, mostly when they're counter strikers like Izzy and Silva. MVP is another guy who likes to counter to set the the big KO.

Tonight we had a guy who likes to counter (mvp) and a shorter guy. Both of which respected the others power and had a lot on the line. Can't expect the shorter guy to just rush in against the taller counter striker (think Woodley vs WB) and you'd be equally wrong to assume the counter striker will push forward and over reach on the shorter guy who's coiled and ready to drop a bomb.

Sometimes fights just end up whack lol
 
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JDS vs Hunt. Hunt vs Silva. Two great striker vs striker fights.

Also Lawler vs Condit, Diaz vs McGregor 2, Swanson vs Choi, Stephens vs Choi, Gaethje vs any striker. Just off the top of my head.
none of these guys are pure strikers except for mcgregor, most of those guys are well rounded fighters who so happen to lean towards striking, I have never seen a thread saying lawler, condit, diaz, swanson, choi, stephens or gaethje can't grapple but plenty of people say mcgregor, MVP, daley, till, ngannou, lewis and adesanya can't grapple because they are literally pure strikers.
 
JDS vs Hunt. Hunt vs Silva. Two great striker vs striker fights.

Also Lawler vs Condit, Diaz vs McGregor 2, Swanson vs Choi, Stephens vs Choi, Gaethje vs any striker. Just off the top of my head.

Many of those aren't true striker vs striker fights. Of the ones that are, some are only "exciting" because one guy proved to be a bad match-up for the other and lit him up.

Regardless, you are correct that it doesn't have to be (and isn't always) boring when elite strikers meet.

It generally only gets boring when both guys figure they have a chance at winning on the scorecards and so aren't inclined to take risks... or when old man Silva is in there and has no intentions of doing anything too risky in an effort to win because he's going to cry after anyway just at the thought of lasting 3 rounds with a younger, mostly unproven, fighter.
 
Cause they get too afraid of being ko’d
 
As someone said its the type of strikers. 2 big power strikers like Lewis and Francis respect each others power too much. Izzy and Andy are counter strikers so they wait for each other. Iz Normal.
 
Some fights suck. Style has little to do with it.

The fighters fighting have a lot to do with it.
 
none of these guys are pure strikers except for mcgregor, most of those guys are well rounded fighters who so happen to lean towards striking, I have never seen a thread saying lawler, condit, diaz, swanson, choi, stephens or gaethje can't grapple but plenty of people say mcgregor, MVP, daley, till, ngannou, lewis and adesanya can't grapple because they are literally pure strikers.

How is Lewis a pure striker when half of his wins are by gnp? How is Lawler not a pure striker when he hasnt shot a takedown in like 15 years?
All the guys you listed are prone to boring fights, Wonderboy, Till and MVP are rangy strikers that dont like to trade in the pocket so you never really see them in FOTN performances, so if they cant get the KO you are in for a slow fight, Lewis is just inexplicable he's like a HW Tyron Woodley without the skill.
 
2 biggest fights in boxing in like the past 2 years has been

Ggg VS canelo 1 and 2
Fury vs wilder

All 3 were 9/10
 
It's not about KOs and slugfests. It's super intriguing to see who gets the better of it in a match up between two high level strikers.

What indeed was disappointing, was MVPs defensive wrestling game. Getting taken down by Daley for fucks sake?? Lima is gonna destroy him on the ground in the first round. He should've easily stuffed Daley's takedowns and then we would've gotten the striking match we all deserved.
 
Lewis a striker? He finished more people on the ground then anywhere else. Plus he aint got no technique only power. He is no striker, he is a brawler.
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But otherwise your pretty correct.
 
none of these guys are pure strikers except for mcgregor, most of those guys are well rounded fighters who so happen to lean towards striking, I have never seen a thread saying lawler, condit, diaz, swanson, choi, stephens or gaethje can't grapple but plenty of people say mcgregor, MVP, daley, till, ngannou, lewis and adesanya can't grapple because they are literally pure strikers.
Smh. McGregor is a brown belt in bjj. Conor isn't a pure striker.
 
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