BJJ and Corona Virus

I hate to be the one to say this. But, BJJ is going to put most people at an extremely high risk for Corona Virus. The very nature of what we do is the a perfect storm for catching this disease. This is something you may want to consider.

The virus will come here too (USA). It will probably hit the USA the hardest because of the mistakes being made right now.

The CDC is doing every single thing wrong an organization can do. They refuse to test in the USA unless you have been to China or you have been exposed to a known carrier. This is especially dumb because asymptomatic people can transmit this disease. People can be asymptomatic for up to 27 days. The best time to stop a pandemic is at the beginning stages. Because this has an R0 of >6, it is going to be unstoppable with the head start that it has been given.

The CDC seems to have the retarded strategy of - if you don't test for a disease, you can't have an epidemic. This is similar to a 2 year old covering their eyes to make the world go away.

Two of my favorite BJJ phrases ...

Defend early
"You screwed up a long time ago" (in reference to the guy with a person mounted on their chest)

CA (my home state) has 8000 people that have been told to self isolate. They have tested almost NONE of them. This has about as much chance of working as the karate guy who says he is going to grab my balls to get out of my mount. Pure stupidity.

It is bad. Really bad.

Oldguy said:

I hate to be the one to say this. But, BJJ is going to put most people at an extremely high risk for Corona Virus. The very nature of what we do is the a perfect storm for catching this disease. This is something you may want to consider.

The virus will come here too (USA). It will probably hit the USA the hardest because of the mistakes being made right now.

The CDC is doing every single thing wrong an organization can do. They refuse to test in the USA unless you have been to China or you have been exposed to a known carrier. This is especially dumb because asymptomatic people can transmit this disease. People can be asymptomatic for up to 27 days. The best time to stop a pandemic is at the beginning stages. Because this has an R0 of >6, it is going to be unstoppable with the head start that it has been given.

The CDC seems to have the retarded strategy of - if you don't test for a disease, you can't have an epidemic. This is similar to a 2 year old covering their eyes to make the world go away.

Two of my favorite BJJ phrases ...

Defend early
"You screwed up a long time ago" (in reference to the guy with a person mounted on their chest)

CA (my home state) has 8000 people that have been told to self isolate. They have tested almost NONE of them. This has about as much chance of working as the karate guy who says he is going to grab my balls to get out of my mount. Pure stupidity.

It is bad. Really bad.

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The eclosion in Italy, which is pretty random and far away from China is a proof that we can't control this virus.

Too many people have to fly around, go on cruises and have important international business meetings.

And yeah I imagine that soon enough we will have this shit in north america. Then if it's wide spread in the western world we will see schools closing, business suffer bad and for sure BJJ won't be open in a quarantined town.

Oldguy said:

I hate to be the one to say this. But, BJJ is going to put most people at an extremely high risk for Corona Virus. The very nature of what we do is the a perfect storm for catching this disease. This is something you may want to consider.

The virus will come here too (USA). It will probably hit the USA the hardest because of the mistakes being made right now.

The CDC is doing every single thing wrong an organization can do. They refuse to test in the USA unless you have been to China or you have been exposed to a known carrier. This is especially dumb because asymptomatic people can transmit this disease. People can be asymptomatic for up to 27 days. The best time to stop a pandemic is at the beginning stages. Because this has an R0 of >6, it is going to be unstoppable with the head start that it has been given.

The CDC seems to have the retarded strategy of - if you don't test for a disease, you can't have an epidemic. This is similar to a 2 year old covering their eyes to make the world go away.

Two of my favorite BJJ phrases ...

Defend early
"You screwed up a long time ago" (in reference to the guy with a person mounted on their chest)

CA (my home state) has 8000 people that have been told to self isolate. They have tested almost NONE of them. This has about as much chance of working as the karate guy who says he is going to grab my balls to get out of my mount. Pure stupidity.

It is bad. Really bad.

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Do you have a formal science background?

Yes.

Don't make the mistake of letting other people do your thinking for you regardless of your education. Gather data from good sources. Think critically. You can make good decisions about what is true and false.

https://www.youtube.com/user/ChrisMartensondotcom/videos

This is the very best analysis on this threat right now. He is a PhD pathologist from Yale. No politics or left/right wing rants - just facts and analysis.

Knowledge is power against this opponent. I love the look on a white belts face when I show them the way to defend against some chokes is as simple as turning your head. Sometimes just knowing what to do makes all the difference.

I did a naga in Boston two weekends ago and was thinking this is the easiest way for this shit to spread haha but idk man live your life

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If I get infected I'll be nice and stay home, but as a healthy young man I'm not scared of catching it at all. It mostly kills old people who were already sick. If it mutates like the Spanish flu though I'm hightailing it deep in the Canadian woods for 6 months.

Well I'm italian so I can report a bit to you. Here until now it's relatively "bad" only in some part of the north, where there are confirmed cases.. in the rest of Italy people is still more or less living normally and doing the usual day to day life, even tho many are getting scared pretty quickly, emptying supermarkets and buying hand sanitizers bottles like they are the Holy Graal. I'm not training cause I still have tennis elbow but my group and all the other Bjj gyms I know around me (I live in Rome) are still normally going on.

Anyway, as already said, the virus itself is mostly problematic on old people that are already afflicted by heavy conditions of sort.. in fact, all deaths we had here for this were due to said conditions being aggravated by the corona, not just for the virus on his own.

What's your other favorite bjj phrase?

Currently, Solidus is correct. Older people are effected more than younger people. But, when a person gets it (old or young) a second time, it is particularly deadly.

Also, there is evidence that it is mutating based on what is happening in Iran. I am 95% sure it is a bio weapon based on the testimony of Dr. Francis Boyle, the author of the US Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989 . It was probably designed to mutate.

Jesus put this in the war room or wasteland.
This is not a thread about grapping but grappling is just an excuse to talk about a non grappling subject.

Grappling with dozens of different sweaty partners on a mat that is cleaned maybe once a day makes a person dramatically more at risk during the largest pandemic in 100 years than a non-grappler.

I don't hear mountain bikers complaining about skin diseases.

So, yes. It is about grappling.

Oldguy said:

Grappling with dozens of different sweaty partners on a mat that is cleaned maybe once a day makes a person dramatically more at risk during the largest pandemic in 100 years than a non-grappler.

I don't hear mountain bikers complaining about skin diseases.

So, yes. It is about grappling.

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Ok

People in close proximity and grappling are at a higher risk of spreading disease.

/end thread.
You made your point, but no what you really want to do is talk about politics/conspiracy theories.

lol remember ebola westnile ect, just jumpin on bandwagon

Sometimes is good to live in a shithole in south America lol

Solidus Snake said:

virus itself is mostly problematic on old people

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Young people love to dream this mantra.
Actually when simple winter fly is going around, people over 55 had less sick leave % than young people in workplaces where I had worked.
The most immune against casual fly were…..old alcoholics.

SandisLL said:

Young people love to dream this mantra.
Actually when simple winter fly is going around, people over 55 had less sick leave % than young people in workplaces where I had worked.
The most immune against casual fly were…..old alcoholics.

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It's not a dream you dunce. Different viruses affect people differently. At the moment, the stats are pretty clear and the coronavirus isn't very dangerous for young people.

Oldguy said:

Defend early
"You screwed up a long time ago" (in reference to the guy with a person mounted on their chest)

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This phrase was popularized by Kurt Osiander in reference to side control, not mount.

TS has made multiple outlandish claims in this thread.

What is your "formal" science background you claim to have?

You called this the worst / biggest global pandemic in 100 years, lol. But the death count in places other than China is extremely low currently. The death toll is 2 in Italy, and 2 in Japan. South Korea is the only country having an actual problem right now with the virus and their death toll is 11.

You're making it seem like this is the black plague. It's not. This is extremely similar to the h1n1 scare years ago, and SARS years back as well (this is a SARS virus).

Also the "chance of death" raising on double infections line is absolute fucking bullshit. How is it even possible for someone to be infected twice by this virus at this point?

I have to agree with @nefti on this, you are here to spew some conspiracy theory / political bullshit. This isn't about grappling. You might as well suggest that no one take a train, or go to airports, or go to a supermarket. Because the way you are framing this is that this coronavirus outbreak is the bubonic plague. It's not. This has been going on for weeks, probably a month+ now and again, what has happened?

The media wants to sell, it wants views and clicks. They will hyperbolize and fantasize. Anyone taking main-stream media stories without a grain of salt are simply naive. Perhaps the virus will spread here, but it's not much different from the flu. That's the simple fact here, it's a glorified flu outbreak. And specifically to link it to BJJ gyms or grappling is retarded. It's an airborne disease. The odds of catching it with a small circle of grapplers, maybe 50-100 people maximum using the mats in a day would logically be lower than taking a packed train for example.

Oldguy said:

Also, there is evidence that it is mutating based on what is happening in Iran. I am 95% sure it is a bio weapon based on the testimony of Dr. Francis Boyle, the author of the US Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989 . It was probably designed to mutate.

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Was it spread by contrails?