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CruiserTwelve  
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2020-02-23 1:02:39 AM  
Since ALPRs create and store data that's of a very personal nature, that data should be stored and overseen by the judiciary, and only obtainable through a search warrant or with probable cause and exigent circumstances - in other words treated just like a search. It may eventually get there, but technology is progressing faster than the legal processes can keep up.
 
mrparks  
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2020-02-23 4:38:33 AM  
All Cops Are Data-Mining Bastards?
 
fusillade762  
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2020-02-23 4:39:32 AM  
Meanwhile here in Oregon our DMV sells it to whoever has the cash.
 
i ignore u  
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2020-02-23 4:45:04 AM  
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i ignore u  
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2020-02-23 4:47:27 AM  
But let's be honest here.  License plate scanners are creepy, but all they show is the presence of the car, not who was driving it.  Facial recognition cameras are far creepier.
 
Spectrum [TotalFark]  
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2020-02-23 5:06:10 AM  
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CruiserTwelve  
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2020-02-23 5:06:40 AM  

I Am Not A Real Person: Gotta target those that impede the pigs' revenue stream.


How do cops profit from license plate readers?
 
drxym  
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2020-02-23 5:31:52 AM  
It needs a framework to prevent abuse, but the ability to identify a stolen vehicle or a potential suspect or test a person's whereabouts on a particular day as part of an investigation is of obvious benefit to the police.

More ordinarily I don't quite understand why toll booths are a thing any more when ALPR / ANPR could do away with them completely.
 
BafflerMeal  
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2020-02-23 5:41:37 AM  
So. Many. Repeats.
 
wjmorris3  
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2020-02-23 5:43:45 AM  
Part of me wonders if this is so police officers can more easily pull people over for committing a DWB.
 
CrazyCurt  
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2020-02-23 5:50:20 AM  
Sacramento? *checks article* Sacramento. Ah, Scott Jones, always the asshat authoritarian scumbag.

CruiserTwelve: I Am Not A Real Person: Gotta target those that impede the pigs' revenue stream.

How do cops profit from license plate readers?


Not a matter of profit. Sheriff Scott Jones has does this. He's used Stingray tech in the past and is likely doing it now to get phone records of anyone unfortunate enough to be near the devices. Those were in their patrol cars and places all around so that's most people if not all. Then MAGA Scotty ( yes he IS a vocal supporter of Don Don but then you're a cop so par for the course ) has had that little issue with his CHP pals back in 2016 allowing stabby stabby Nazi scumbags at the Capital "protect themselves" from mean words with violence and then arrested those stabbed. Oh and he just recently lost a freaking State Supreme Court Case where he has to unblock a Black Lives Matter person ( and others ) because they hurt his fee-fees.

I don't want him with this power. He's a raving hate-bag and a corrupt jackass with numerous sexual misconduct and racial bias allegations still brewing. We've tried and tried to vote him out only to be stymied by the Far Right who dominate local media and wage massive scare campaigns that terrify the Olds. This man should never have the power to get instant information on anyone not charged with a crime. He's proven he cannot be trusted.

/ Also, Scott Weiner, uhuhuhhuhuh weiner.
 
i ignore u  
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2020-02-23 5:50:40 AM  

fusillade762: Meanwhile here in Oregon our DMV sells it to whoever has the cash.


There is a reason to share DMV vehicle registration data with businesses.  For example in the case of a safety recall the manufacturer needs to know where to send the recall notices.  The trick is to prevent abuses.  So it probably makes sense to require an established recall, or at least a safety issue, and restrict the businesses to querying for owners of those specific models.
 
i ignore u  
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2020-02-23 5:53:11 AM  

i ignore u: fusillade762: Meanwhile here in Oregon our DMV sells it to whoever has the cash.

There is a reason to share DMV vehicle registration data with businesses.  For example in the case of a safety recall the manufacturer needs to know where to send the recall notices.  The trick is to prevent abuses.  So it probably makes sense to require an established recall, or at least a safety issue, and restrict the businesses to querying for owners of those specific models.


I also meant to say that DMV data isn't even remotely the same as real-time tracking of your car's movements through automated license plate scanning.
 
CrazyCurt  
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2020-02-23 5:54:10 AM  

wjmorris3: Part of me wonders if this is so police officers can more easily pull people over for committing a DWB.


Driving With Boobies? That would be a Californian thing to track.

/ Waitaminute ...
 
NotThatGuyAgain  
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2020-02-23 6:01:58 AM  

fusillade762: Meanwhile here in Oregon our DMV sells it to whoever has the cash.


ProTip:  Every state sells DMV data.

/You might be surprised who sells your data.
 
Cataholic  
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2020-02-23 6:16:10 AM  

i ignore u: But let's be honest here.  License plate scanners are creepy, but all they show is the presence of the car, not who was driving it.  Facial recognition cameras are far creepier.


But you don't understand, where I drive my registered, licensed car on public roads is extremely private personal information.
 
i ignore u  
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2020-02-23 6:27:27 AM  

Cataholic: i ignore u: But let's be honest here.  License plate scanners are creepy, but all they show is the presence of the car, not who was driving it.  Facial recognition cameras are far creepier.

But you don't understand, where I drive my registered, licensed car on public roads is extremely private personal information.


So a guy following your car around all day, every day, taking notes is just fine with you?  He admires your style, playing one side against the other.  He's a dick, just like you.

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The more you eat the more you fart  
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2020-02-23 6:52:21 AM  
Police engaging in gestapo tactics.  News at 11.  Captain obvious reporting.
 
Suflig  
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2020-02-23 6:56:12 AM  
My wife got a ticket because her car insurance lapsed and the officer had scanned her plate. Her father was paying it but he had passed away a month before. There'd be no way to know that unless they get flagged when they scan a plate. Same with me but it was for an expired inspection sticker.
 
Xanlexian [OhFark]  
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2020-02-23 7:27:16 AM  
It'll come out in a year-ish or so that the police departments have been selling this data to private 3rd parties.
 
Herr Morgenstern  
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2020-02-23 7:28:03 AM  
It will be interesting to hear from the "why worry if you've got nothing to hide" crowd.
 
The more you eat the more you fart  
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2020-02-23 7:28:51 AM  

Suflig: My wife got a ticket because her car insurance lapsed and the officer had scanned her plate. Her father was paying it but he had passed away a month before. There'd be no way to know that unless they get flagged when they scan a plate. Same with me but it was for an expired inspection sticker.


Yeah, it's almost as if they're using them for pretext stops to generate some public $afety.
 
DO NOT WANT Poster Girl  
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2020-02-23 7:31:45 AM  

Cataholic: i ignore u: But let's be honest here.  License plate scanners are creepy, but all they show is the presence of the car, not who was driving it.  Facial recognition cameras are far creepier.

But you don't understand, where I drive my registered, licensed car on public roads is extremely private personal information.


nothing to fear if you're not going anything wrong, just suck up the active surveillance citizen. The front of your house is public too, let's monitor that plus all your open windows and backyard.
 
The more you eat the more you fart  
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2020-02-23 7:33:44 AM  

i ignore u: Cataholic: i ignore u: But let's be honest here.  License plate scanners are creepy, but all they show is the presence of the car, not who was driving it.  Facial recognition cameras are far creepier.

But you don't understand, where I drive my registered, licensed car on public roads is extremely private personal information.

So a guy following your car around all day, every day, taking notes is just fine with you?  He admires your style, playing one side against the other.  He's a dick, just like you.

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This.

You are in public yes, but NO ONE expect s a stalker following them around from the moment they step outside their door....electronic or not.
 
Xanlexian [OhFark]  
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2020-02-23 7:39:30 AM  

DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: Cataholic: i ignore u: But let's be honest here.  License plate scanners are creepy, but all they show is the presence of the car, not who was driving it.  Facial recognition cameras are far creepier.

But you don't understand, where I drive my registered, licensed car on public roads is extremely private personal information.

nothing to fear if you're not going anything wrong, just suck up the active surveillance citizen. The front of your house is public too, let's monitor that plus all your open windows and backyard.


... and if your curtains are closed preventing someone from the public right-of-way looking in, well then... you MUST be hiding something.  Prepare for SWAT!
 
The more you eat the more you fart  
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2020-02-23 7:45:10 AM  

Xanlexian: DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: Cataholic: i ignore u: But let's be honest here.  License plate scanners are creepy, but all they show is the presence of the car, not who was driving it.  Facial recognition cameras are far creepier.

But you don't understand, where I drive my registered, licensed car on public roads is extremely private personal information.

nothing to fear if you're not going anything wrong, just suck up the active surveillance citizen. The front of your house is public too, let's monitor that plus all your open windows and backyard.

... and if your curtains are closed preventing someone from the public right-of-way looking in, well then... you MUST be hiding something.  Prepare for SWAT!


I do not understand why we tolerate being under constant surveillance because of a supposed "no expectation of privacy", yet wouldn't tolerate an actual person following us around all day everywhere we went.

To me, there's no difference in a camera and an actual person...someone is watching you.
 
DO NOT WANT Poster Girl  
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2020-02-23 7:49:05 AM  

Xanlexian: DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: Cataholic: i ignore u: But let's be honest here.  License plate scanners are creepy, but all they show is the presence of the car, not who was driving it.  Facial recognition cameras are far creepier.

But you don't understand, where I drive my registered, licensed car on public roads is extremely private personal information.

nothing to fear if you're not going anything wrong, just suck up the active surveillance citizen. The front of your house is public too, let's monitor that plus all your open windows and backyard.

... and if your curtains are closed preventing someone from the public right-of-way looking in, well then... you MUST be hiding something.  Prepare for SWAT!


No joke.

A black colleague remarked recently on how luxurious it would feel for her to feel comfortable having uncovered  windows at her house open to the sun. "Most white people don't understand black families. We cover all our windows because we're afraid, for good reason."
 
sleze  
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2020-02-23 7:50:34 AM  

CruiserTwelve: Since ALPRs create and store data that's of a very personal nature, that data should be stored and overseen by the judiciary, and only obtainable through a search warrant or with probable cause and exigent circumstances - in other words treated just like a search. It may eventually get there, but technology is progressing faster than the legal processes can keep up.


This is all very public information.  Your license plate number is displayed on the outside of your car.  Anyone can see you and note your location and the time they saw you.  This is not the same as someone searching your car, your house or your phone.  There are certainly issues with the aggregation of data, but let's not try to attack the practice based on the wrong basis.
 
DO NOT WANT Poster Girl  
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2020-02-23 8:03:43 AM  

sleze: CruiserTwelve: Since ALPRs create and store data that's of a very personal nature, that data should be stored and overseen by the judiciary, and only obtainable through a search warrant or with probable cause and exigent circumstances - in other words treated just like a search. It may eventually get there, but technology is progressing faster than the legal processes can keep up.

This is all very public information.  Your license plate number is displayed on the outside of your car.  Anyone can see you and note your location and the time they saw you.  This is not the same as someone searching your car, your house or your phone.  There are certainly issues with the aggregation of data, but let's not try to attack the practice based on the wrong basis.


I'm really curious as to why you think it's ok for law enforcement to track millions of license plates. Data aggregation isn't the only problem.  How many actual "people" write down your license plate, store it will millions of others and have simultaneous access to all your other personal information?
 
RogueWallEnthusiast [OhFark]  
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2020-02-23 8:13:59 AM  

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Can you put a little 49'); DROP TABLE platenumber;as a license plate?  Seems a bit long.
 
CrazyCurt  
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2020-02-23 8:17:37 AM  

sleze: CruiserTwelve: Since ALPRs create and store data that's of a very personal nature, that data should be stored and overseen by the judiciary, and only obtainable through a search warrant or with probable cause and exigent circumstances - in other words treated just like a search. It may eventually get there, but technology is progressing faster than the legal processes can keep up.

This is all very public information.  Your license plate number is displayed on the outside of your car.  Anyone can see you and note your location and the time they saw you.  This is not the same as someone searching your car, your house or your phone.  There are certainly issues with the aggregation of data, but let's not try to attack the practice based on the wrong basis.


COINTELPRO Two: Muhrica Boogaloo. The worst part about this is the information gathered is more than just typical driver's license info they already have which by the way usually isn't public information. I've never been able to write down a license number and go online and find out the name, address, phone number, e-mail and quite possibly much more than that. Now let's throw in some Sheriff who might have a grudge against certain members of Black Lives Matter after getting his ass handed to him in court in a very embarrassing fashion -- something Republicans are really good at doing. Do you think this guy who's had a history of lacking restraint might be tempted to enact a little sleazy underhanded revenge against those victorious plaintiffs? Especially when he has access to much more than DMV records? THAT'S what scares the crap out of normal people who are not into sieg-heiling whatever fascist idealism of authoritarianism turns them on at night.

Ain't gonna happen to you though. Probably. Most likely. Just look at history and ... oh ... yeah, well, you DID want this nightmare. Here we are.

/ Two reds in one, nicely done.
 
CrazyCurt  
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2020-02-23 8:21:08 AM  

DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: sleze: CruiserTwelve: Since ALPRs create and store data that's of a very personal nature, that data should be stored and overseen by the judiciary, and only obtainable through a search warrant or with probable cause and exigent circumstances - in other words treated just like a search. It may eventually get there, but technology is progressing faster than the legal processes can keep up.

This is all very public information.  Your license plate number is displayed on the outside of your car.  Anyone can see you and note your location and the time they saw you.  This is not the same as someone searching your car, your house or your phone.  There are certainly issues with the aggregation of data, but let's not try to attack the practice based on the wrong basis.

I'm really curious as to why you think it's ok for law enforcement to track millions of license plates. Data aggregation isn't the only problem.  How many actual "people" write down your license plate, store it will millions of others and have simultaneous access to all your other personal information?


Go ahead and mark this one now. Dealt with this character before.

/ Red as the hats and ain't taking that.
 
sleze  
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2020-02-23 8:23:19 AM  

DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: sleze: CruiserTwelve: Since ALPRs create and store data that's of a very personal nature, that data should be stored and overseen by the judiciary, and only obtainable through a search warrant or with probable cause and exigent circumstances - in other words treated just like a search. It may eventually get there, but technology is progressing faster than the legal processes can keep up.

This is all very public information.  Your license plate number is displayed on the outside of your car.  Anyone can see you and note your location and the time they saw you.  This is not the same as someone searching your car, your house or your phone.  There are certainly issues with the aggregation of data, but let's not try to attack the practice based on the wrong basis.

I'm really curious as to why you think it's ok for law enforcement to track millions of license plates.


Because it is non-personal information that is available to anyone.

Data aggregation isn't the only problem.  How many actual "people" write down your license plate, store it will millions of others and have simultaneous access to all your other personal information?

Well, people willingly (if not unwittingly) give google and facebook even more of this information everyday.  If a car insurance company felt it was profitable for them to collect information this way (or say some company that would sell the service to ALL insurance companies), there is nothing to stop them.  It is about as public information as the house number on your front door/mailbox.
 
sleze  
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2020-02-23 8:38:05 AM  

CrazyCurt: I've never been able to write down a license number and go online and find out the name, address, phone number, e-mail and quite possibly much more than that


CrazyCurt: sleze: CruiserTwelve: Since ALPRs create and store data that's of a very personal nature, that data should be stored and overseen by the judiciary, and only obtainable through a search warrant or with probable cause and exigent circumstances - in other words treated just like a search. It may eventually get there, but technology is progressing faster than the legal processes can keep up.

This is all very public information.  Your license plate number is displayed on the outside of your car.  Anyone can see you and note your location and the time they saw you.  This is not the same as someone searching your car, your house or your phone.  There are certainly issues with the aggregation of data, but let's not try to attack the practice based on the wrong basis.

COINTELPRO Two: Muhrica Boogaloo. The worst part about this is the information gathered is more than just typical driver's license info they already have which by the way usually isn't public information. I've never been able to write down a license number and go online and find out the name, address, phone number, e-mail and quite possibly much more than that. Now let's throw in some Sheriff who might have a grudge against certain members of Black Lives Matter after getting his ass handed to him in court in a very embarrassing fashion -- something Republicans are really good at doing. Do you think this guy who's had a history of lacking restraint might be tempted to enact a little sleazy underhanded revenge against those victorious plaintiffs? Especially when he has access to much more than DMV records? THAT'S what scares the crap out of normal people who are not into sieg-heiling whatever fascist idealism of authoritarianism turns them on at night.

Ain't gonna happen to you though. Probably. Most likely. Just look at history and ... oh ... yeah, well, you DID want this nightmare. Here we are.

/ Two reds in one, nicely done.


Repo men, private detectives and basically any company that wants to know information about you have been doing it for years.  You can too!
 
Frederf  
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2020-02-23 8:56:15 AM  
One of the bugaboos about personal data is that a difference in quantity is a difference in kind. It's one of those how many grains of sand is a desert kind of things. A few bits of info taken by individual human effort in a scattershot manner is no big deal. What jacket you wore on Tuesday, where your car was parked last Friday, etc.

But get enough "harmless" public "no big deal" data and it crosses the threshold into unacceptable. Constant, pervasive, ultra fast automated systems taking and collating vast swaths of info that "yeah well a person could have noticed that and been no big deal" is scary. If you don't think it's scary you haven't looked into it enough.
 
King Something  
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2020-02-23 8:59:02 AM  
'Murica.
 
YouPeopleAreCrazy  
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2020-02-23 9:07:50 AM  

i ignore u: But let's be honest here.  License plate scanners are creepy, but all they show is the presence of the car, not who was driving it.  Facial recognition cameras are far creepier.


Given sufficient data points, the "who" can be determined or assumed to a large degree of confidence.

Vehicle leaving your residence, and 20 minutes later it is at your place of work, repeat every day...yeah, that's you.

And then leaving your place of employment, but then in the strip club parking lot...yeah, that is you as well, Reverend.
 
Societized insanity  
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2020-02-23 9:15:38 AM  

DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: Cataholic: i ignore u: But let's be honest here.  License plate scanners are creepy, but all they show is the presence of the car, not who was driving it.  Facial recognition cameras are far creepier.

But you don't understand, where I drive my registered, licensed car on public roads is extremely private personal information.

nothing to fear if you're not going anything wrong, just suck up the active surveillance citizen. The front of your house is public too, let's monitor that plus all your open windows and backyard.


The issue is the storage of data not the use of a scanner to detect if your plates, inspection or insurance is expired. The immediate scanned data of a non offender could easily be dropped, not stored.
 
kristufer82  
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2020-02-23 9:27:43 AM  

i ignore u: Cataholic: i ignore u: But let's be honest here.  License plate scanners are creepy, but all they show is the presence of the car, not who was driving it.  Facial recognition cameras are far creepier.

But you don't understand, where I drive my registered, licensed car on public roads is extremely private personal information.

So a guy following your car around all day, every day, taking notes is just fine with you?  He admires your style, playing one side against the other.  He's a dick, just like you.

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Thats perfectly legal...
 
thealgorerhythm  
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2020-02-23 9:35:17 AM  

CruiserTwelve: Since ALPRs create and store data that's of a very personal nature, that data should be stored and overseen by the judiciary, and only obtainable through a search warrant or with probable cause and exigent circumstances - in other words treated just like a search. It may eventually get there, but technology is progressing faster than the legal processes can keep up.


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Tip of the iceberg, there are national networks of repo men that do it an order of magnitude bigger and with no regulation at all because private enterprise

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/ne879z/i-tracked-someone-with-license-plate-readers-drn
 
thealgorerhythm  
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2020-02-23 9:38:05 AM  

Societized insanity: DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: Cataholic: i ignore u: But let's be honest here.  License plate scanners are creepy, but all they show is the presence of the car, not who was driving it.  Facial recognition cameras are far creepier.

But you don't understand, where I drive my registered, licensed car on public roads is extremely private personal information.

nothing to fear if you're not going anything wrong, just suck up the active surveillance citizen. The front of your house is public too, let's monitor that plus all your open windows and backyard.

The issue is the storage of data not the use of a scanner to detect if your plates, inspection or insurance is expired. The immediate scanned data of a non offender could easily be dropped, not stored.


A non-offender is just an offender you haven't met.
 
Benjimin_Dover  
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2020-02-23 9:53:11 AM  

sleze: Repo men, private detectives and basically any company that wants to know information about you have been doing it for years.  You can too!


You are wasting your words with that one. A mind riddled with TDS is incapable of anything else including learning.
 
Tentaclefriendly  
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2020-02-23 10:02:23 AM  
 We need some civilian organizations deliberately and specifically using this off-the-shelf commercial technology to monitor the whereabouts and activity of police officers, ICE, & CBP.

Use that to catch some of them committing crimes and all of a sudden this technology will be heavily regulated.
 
Noticeably F.A.T. [TotalFark]  
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2020-02-23 10:07:01 AM  

CruiserTwelve: Since ALPRs create and store data that's of a very personal nature, that data should be stored and overseen by the judiciary, and only obtainable through a search warrant or with probable cause and exigent circumstances - in other words treated just like a search. It may eventually get there, but technology is progressing faster than the legal processes can keep up.


If only there was a way for cops to not act like authoritarian jackwagons withoutthere being a law against it. If. Only.
 
pushthelimits  
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2020-02-23 10:17:22 AM  

i ignore u: But let's be honest here.  License plate scanners are creepy, but all they show is the presence of the car, not who was driving it.  Facial recognition cameras are far creepier.


They're trying, and the EFF is fighting it.
 
CrazyCurt  
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2020-02-23 10:20:39 AM  

Benjimin_Dover: sleze: Repo men, private detectives and basically any company that wants to know information about you have been doing it for years.  You can too!

You are wasting your words with that one. A mind riddled with TDS is incapable of anything else including learning.


The entire point being that because you can and then you do what if you then have it out for the person you looked up? TDS folks like this character don't even consider that. No one would ever want to harm or even bother upstanding Anglo-Christian Conservative with families and good jobs. But maybe officer Skipper likes that awesome new boat the family just bought. Maybe he can look through his data base and find some way to 'make some charges stick' -- say a nice cell phone call from a dealer he knows to the teen of the house -- and there's probable cause and drugs are found and assets are floated ... I mean forfeited to the department. Officer Skipper has a nice new boat to play with.

Authoritarians never see the abuses. They only see two things: it must be OK if it's the law no matter how immoral that law is, and if authorities say it is so it is so and all who disagree are suspect. I sincerely worry for the victorious plaintiffs that stuck it to Sheriff MAGA here. He's a creep. He stalks. He's done it before. His deputies also stalk people, usually women they are enamored with. That's creepy stuff that would get normal people investigated by the very same farking cops! HOW ARE WE TO TRUST THEM TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT!?

We can't and I won't. They can wave their decaying flag all they want but authoritarians never loved this country, The Constitution or any semblance of justice or morality.

/ He's on the edge of ignore right now. Nothing worth reading, ever, just regurgitated J. Edgar Hoover nonsense.
 
INTERTRON  
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2020-02-23 10:21:27 AM  

sleze: Because it is non-personal information that is available to anyone.


How do I get access to this California license plate scanner database, then?  I'm included in "anyone".
 
kbronsito  
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2020-02-23 10:23:20 AM  
Fact: If various agencies didn't keep random databases about our citizens, NCIS wouldn't be able to solve every crime by hacking into them and we'd all be dead.
 
Benjimin_Dover  
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2020-02-23 10:25:12 AM  

CrazyCurt: Benjimin_Dover: sleze: Repo men, private detectives and basically any company that wants to know information about you have been doing it for years.  You can too!

You are wasting your words with that one. A mind riddled with TDS is incapable of anything else including learning.

The entire point being that because you can and then you do what if you then have it out for the person you looked up? TDS folks like this character don't even consider that. No one would ever want to harm or even bother upstanding Anglo-Christian Conservative with families and good jobs. But maybe officer Skipper likes that awesome new boat the family just bought. Maybe he can look through his data base and find some way to 'make some charges stick' -- say a nice cell phone call from a dealer he knows to the teen of the house -- and there's probable cause and drugs are found and assets are floated ... I mean forfeited to the department. Officer Skipper has a nice new boat to play with.

Authoritarians never see the abuses. They only see two things: it must be OK if it's the law no matter how immoral that law is, and if authorities say it is so it is so and all who disagree are suspect. I sincerely worry for the victorious plaintiffs that stuck it to Sheriff MAGA here. He's a creep. He stalks. He's done it before. His deputies also stalk people, usually women they are enamored with. That's creepy stuff that would get normal people investigated by the very same farking cops! HOW ARE WE TO TRUST THEM TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT!?

We can't and I won't. They can wave their decaying flag all they want but authoritarians never loved this country, The Constitution or any semblance of justice or morality.

/ He's on the edge of ignore right now. Nothing worth reading, ever, just regurgitated J. Edgar Hoover nonsense.


But the tuna fish sandwich thing is a bit much.
 
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2020-02-23 10:25:25 AM  

Noticeably F.A.T.: CruiserTwelve: Since ALPRs create and store data that's of a very personal nature, that data should be stored and overseen by the judiciary, and only obtainable through a search warrant or with probable cause and exigent circumstances - in other words treated just like a search. It may eventually get there, but technology is progressing faster than the legal processes can keep up.

If only there was a way for cops to not act like authoritarian jackwagons withoutthere being a law against it. If. Only.


Dude's name really checks out. Marked "Narc!" because I'm 1970s like that. He's an LEO.

/ Man don't take my lid of grass I was totally saving for the Stones concert at Altamont.
 
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