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(NYPost)   Relax, honey, the Realtor assured me that it definitely doesn't sit on top of an ancient Native American burial ground   (nypost.com) divider line
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vudukungfu [TotalFark] [OhFark]  
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2018-09-23 9:59:27 PM  
Who doesn't Google their future neighborhood?
 
2018-09-23 10:16:09 PM  
Looks like they cannot go after the realtor either, even if the murders occurred inside the house (they didn't).

In 1995, to settle a growing controversy over what were called "stigmatized properties," the New York legislature amended the broker licensing laws to relieve brokers from any duty to disclose:

that a previous owner or occupant of the property had, or was suspected of having, HIV, AIDS, or other unspecified diseases unlikely to be easily transmittable through occupancy of a dwelling place, and
that the property was the site of a felony such as a homicide, a suicide, or another death. (N.Y. Real Prop. Law §443a-1.)

This means that buyers can't sue brokers who fail to disclose the excluded matters; nor can the brokers face discipline over such acts. (N.Y. Real Prop. Law §443a-2 (b)). However, the buyer may make a written inquiry to the seller's agent, or directly to the seller, for this information. The seller can choose not to respond to the inquiry. If the seller chooses not to respond, the listing broker shall not respond. (N.Y. Real Prop. Law §443a-3.)
 
pup.socket  
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2018-09-23 11:55:18 PM  
Can't they be a happy family forever if they kill themselves and just get buried in the backyard?

/ What's with that superstition, call an orthodox priest to crop some holy water and be done with it
// or an exorcist if that doesn't work
 
GRCooper [OhFark]  
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2018-09-24 12:19:55 AM  
Go into the light, Carol Anne
 
Intrepid00  
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2018-09-24 12:27:45 AM  

vudukungfu: Who doesn't Google their future neighborhood?


I know right? I googled to make sure a certain individual didn't end up being my neighbor that was on national news. He's close, but far enough I probably will not have to deal with shiat he brings.
 
morg  
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2018-09-24 12:33:37 AM  
I want to be sympathetic to the family with two women dead but can't they be sympathetic to the innocent new home owners and neighbors? You don't have to do a memorial on the site. Especially if it's private property and you're messing with people's lives.
 
Rob3Fan  
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2018-09-24 12:40:46 AM  
Why a Realtor is required - Bikers 60 seconds
Youtube NP4Bq6nxPfA
 
WoodyHayes [OhFark]  
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2018-09-24 1:44:05 AM  
At an old duplex I rented some lady in a duplex directly across the street had drowned her kid(s?) in the bathtub a few years before I moved in. It had been unoccupied for two or so years afterwards until somebody new moved in. They moved right the fark back out after learning what had happened there from the neighbors. I want to say she got her deposit back but not the rent for the unused days of the month, no idea on the legalities of something like that.
 
Russ1642  
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2018-09-24 2:29:52 AM  
Ghosts don't exist. Curses don't exist. What does exist are shiatty and dangerous neighborhoods and murderous gangs. Caveat emptor.
 
UsikFark  
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2018-09-24 4:13:55 AM  

Rob3Fan: [Youtube NP4Bq6nxPfA image 480x360][Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/NP4Bq6nxPfA]


"Hey Realtor(R), did gangs murder people on my street?"
 
stuartp9  
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2018-09-24 4:56:07 AM  
What if the murders were fictional - would you want to live there?

https://ew.com/article/2011/12/14/american-horror-story-murder-house-for-sale/
 
PsychoPhil  
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2018-09-24 7:26:02 AM  

vudukungfu: Who doesn't Google their future neighborhood?


It's Brentwood - what do you have to google?  That's like right in the center of the part of Suffolk that the MS13 control...

/They could have moved to Crimedanch...
 
Muso  
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2018-09-24 8:33:28 AM  
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2018-09-24 8:35:27 AM  
So what? That just means you are safe from the rest of the immortals, holy ground and all.

There can be only one.
 
2018-09-24 8:47:02 AM  
Homer (angrily on the phone to a real estate agent): "You didn't tell us it was on an INDIAN BURIAL GROUND! .... Yeah...  well.... alright then!"

Homer (meekly): "She says she told us 2 or 3 times."

/Treehouse of Horror 1, biatches!
 
eKonk  
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2018-09-24 8:55:27 AM  

Bathia_Mapes: Looks like they cannot go after the realtor either, even if the murders occurred inside the house (they didn't).

In 1995, to settle a growing controversy over what were called "stigmatized properties," the New York legislature amended the broker licensing laws to relieve brokers from any duty to disclose:

that a previous owner or occupant of the property had, or was suspected of having, HIV, AIDS, or other unspecified diseases unlikely to be easily transmittable through occupancy of a dwelling place, and
that the property was the site of a felony such as a homicide, a suicide, or another death. (N.Y. Real Prop. Law §443a-1.)

This means that buyers can't sue brokers who fail to disclose the excluded matters; nor can the brokers face discipline over such acts. (N.Y. Real Prop. Law §443a-2 (b)). However, the buyer may make a written inquiry to the seller's agent, or directly to the seller, for this information. The seller can choose not to respond to the inquiry. If the seller chooses not to respond, the listing broker shall not respond. (N.Y. Real Prop. Law §443a-3.)


What's the punishment for felony suicide? Normally I'd expect a pretty harsh sentence to act as a deterrent, but maybe in this case they could go a little easy?
 
2018-09-24 9:07:54 AM  

vudukungfu: Who doesn't Google their future neighborhood?


I googled the shiat out of my neighborhood and managed to miss there was talk of converting a very close golf course to Section 8 housing.  Didn't find out about it until literally an hour after closing.

Thankfully it didn't happen.
 
akya [OhFark]  
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2018-09-24 9:20:41 AM  
I liked how the home is in gang occupied territory, some teenagers were murdered in the woods behind the house, the gang still commits crimes in the area, and it still sold for $320k marked down from $377k.
 
Geotpf  
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2018-09-24 10:38:04 AM  

akya: I liked how the home is in gang occupied territory, some teenagers were murdered in the woods behind the house, the gang still commits crimes in the area, and it still sold for $320k marked down from $377k.


You know, when I think of "gang territory" I don't typically think of "in the woods".
 
2018-09-24 11:26:18 AM  

Bathia_Mapes: Looks like they cannot go after the realtor either, even if the murders occurred inside the house (they didn't).

In 1995, to settle a growing controversy over what were called "stigmatized properties," the New York legislature amended the broker licensing laws to relieve brokers from any duty to disclose:

that a previous owner or occupant of the property had, or was suspected of having, HIV, AIDS, or other unspecified diseases unlikely to be easily transmittable through occupancy of a dwelling place, and
that the property was the site of a felony such as a homicide, a suicide, or another death. (N.Y. Real Prop. Law §443a-1.)

This means that buyers can't sue brokers who fail to disclose the excluded matters; nor can the brokers face discipline over such acts. (N.Y. Real Prop. Law §443a-2 (b)). However, the buyer may make a written inquiry to the seller's agent, or directly to the seller, for this information. The seller can choose not to respond to the inquiry. If the seller chooses not to respond, the listing broker shall not respond. (N.Y. Real Prop. Law §443a-3.)


Federal law requires the seller of property to reveal information to buyers that falls under "emotional defects" including murders on the property.

For fun, they are also required to reveal to buyers if the property is considered to have 'paranormal activity'.
 
stuffy  
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2018-09-24 2:41:02 PM  
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Maybe put up a sign.
 
PsychoPhil  
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2018-09-24 4:36:01 PM  

Dangerous_sociopath: For fun, they are also required to reveal to buyers if the property is considered to have 'paranormal activity'.


Indeed, a home in NY state was once declared 'legally haunted'...
 
2018-09-24 7:37:15 PM  

eKonk: Bathia_Mapes: Looks like they cannot go after the realtor either, even if the murders occurred inside the house (they didn't).

In 1995, to settle a growing controversy over what were called "stigmatized properties," the New York legislature amended the broker licensing laws to relieve brokers from any duty to disclose:

that a previous owner or occupant of the property had, or was suspected of having, HIV, AIDS, or other unspecified diseases unlikely to be easily transmittable through occupancy of a dwelling place, and
that the property was the site of a felony such as a homicide, a suicide, or another death. (N.Y. Real Prop. Law §443a-1.)

This means that buyers can't sue brokers who fail to disclose the excluded matters; nor can the brokers face discipline over such acts. (N.Y. Real Prop. Law §443a-2 (b)). However, the buyer may make a written inquiry to the seller's agent, or directly to the seller, for this information. The seller can choose not to respond to the inquiry. If the seller chooses not to respond, the listing broker shall not respond. (N.Y. Real Prop. Law §443a-3.)

What's the punishment for felony suicide? Normally I'd expect a pretty harsh sentence to act as a deterrent, but maybe in this case they could go a little easy?


Per Wikipedia:

Historically, various states listed the act of suicide as a felony, but these policies were sparsely enforced. In the late 1960s, eighteen U.S. states had no laws against suicide.[135] By the late 1980s, thirty of the fifty states had no laws against suicide or suicide attempts but every state had laws declaring it to be a felony to aid, advise or encourage another person to die by suicide.[136] By the early 1990s only two states still listed suicide as a crime, and these have since removed that classification.[citation needed] In some U.S. states, suicide is still considered an unwritten "common law crime," as stated in Blackstone's Commentaries. (So held the Virginia Supreme Court in 1992. Wackwitz v. Roy, 418 S.E.2d 861 (Va. 1992)). As a common law crime, suicide can bar recovery for the late suicidal person's family in a lawsuit unless the suicidal person can be proven to have been "of unsound mind." That is, the suicide must be proven to have been an involuntary act of the victim in order for the family to be awarded monetary damages by the court. This can occur when the family of the deceased sues the caregiver (perhaps a jail or hospital) for negligence in failing to provide appropriate care.[137] Some American legal scholars look at the issue as one of personal liberty. According to Nadine Strossen, former President of the ACLU, "The idea of government making determinations about how you end your life, forcing you...could be considered cruel and unusual punishment in certain circumstances, and Justice Stevens in a very interesting opinion in a right-to-die [case] raised the analogy."[138] Physician-assisted suicide is legal in some states.[139] For the terminally ill, it is legal in the state of Oregon under the Oregon Death with Dignity Act. In Washington state, it became legal in 2009, when a law modeled after the Oregon act, the Washington Death with Dignity Act was passed. A patient must be diagnosed as having less than six months to live, be of sound mind, make a request orally and in writing, have it approved by two different doctors, then wait 15 days and make the request again. A doctor may prescribe a lethal dose of a medication but may not administer it.[140]

In California, medical facilities are empowered or required to commit anyone whom they believe to be suicidal for evaluation and treatment.[141]

In Maryland, it is an open question as to whether suicide is illegal. In 2018, a Maryland man was convicted of attempted suicide
 
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