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(Sky.com)   New bronze statue of woman in see-through dress sparks sexism row in Italy. Marble statues of completely naked women all over Italy from a different era still OK   (news.sky.com) divider line
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Merltech  
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2021-09-28 8:23:37 AM  
That wouldn't happen over here. It be stolen before it even went on display.
 
vudukungfu [TotalFark] [OhFark]  
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2021-09-28 8:40:01 AM  
Se hai glutei migliori, puoi registrare un reclamo.
 
Pocket Ninja [TotalFark] [OhFark]  
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2021-09-28 8:46:58 AM  
She wrote on Twitter: "But how can even the institutions accept the representation of a woman as a sexualised body?"
But Stifano has defended the statue, writing on Facebook that had it been up to him the figure would have been "completely naked... simply because I am a lover of the human body".

This calls to mind a conversation I had with an acquaintance of mine who frequents nude beaches and nudist colonies. I don't really pretend to understand his motivations for this -- he claims he just enjoys the freedom but I've also suspected he just likes looking at naked people. But, whatever. Our conversation was about what it's like to have "clothing" removed as any sort of factor you'd use to pre-judge people before getting to know them, and that eventually led to his saying something that's stuck with me for a while. Namely, that after you've spent some time talking a strange woman who's reasonably attractive and completely naked, you start to wonder what she might look like in a really tight sweater or well-fitting jeans. Because after a while the naked body, in non-sexual situations, stops seeming sexual. But the right clothing, in any situation, becomes something of a tease that makes you want to see more. So maybe the artist has a point -- a see-through dress has a titillation factor that, ultimately, a naked body would not.
 
Teddy Brosevelt  
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2021-09-28 8:58:31 AM  
I'm here for the tiddies
 
kdawg7736 [TotalFark] [OhFark]  
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2021-09-28 8:59:56 AM  
I wonder who the Karens that complained about this are?
 
Tyrone Slothrop  
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2021-09-28 9:00:31 AM  

Pocket Ninja: She wrote on Twitter: "But how can even the institutions accept the representation of a woman as a sexualised body?"
But Stifano has defended the statue, writing on Facebook that had it been up to him the figure would have been "completely naked... simply because I am a lover of the human body".

This calls to mind a conversation I had with an acquaintance of mine who frequents nude beaches and nudist colonies. I don't really pretend to understand his motivations for this -- he claims he just enjoys the freedom but I've also suspected he just likes looking at naked people. But, whatever. Our conversation was about what it's like to have "clothing" removed as any sort of factor you'd use to pre-judge people before getting to know them, and that eventually led to his saying something that's stuck with me for a while. Namely, that after you've spent some time talking a strange woman who's reasonably attractive and completely naked, you start to wonder what she might look like in a really tight sweater or well-fitting jeans. Because after a while the naked body, in non-sexual situations, stops seeming sexual. But the right clothing, in any situation, becomes something of a tease that makes you want to see more. So maybe the artist has a point -- a see-through dress has a titillation factor that, ultimately, a naked body would not.


There's a reason the lingerie industry exists.
 
Fano  
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2021-09-28 9:00:42 AM  

Pocket Ninja: She wrote on Twitter: "But how can even the institutions accept the representation of a woman as a sexualised body?"
But Stifano has defended the statue, writing on Facebook that had it been up to him the figure would have been "completely naked... simply because I am a lover of the human body".

This calls to mind a conversation I had with an acquaintance of mine who frequents nude beaches and nudist colonies. I don't really pretend to understand his motivations for this -- he claims he just enjoys the freedom but I've also suspected he just likes looking at naked people. But, whatever. Our conversation was about what it's like to have "clothing" removed as any sort of factor you'd use to pre-judge people before getting to know them, and that eventually led to his saying something that's stuck with me for a while. Namely, that after you've spent some time talking a strange woman who's reasonably attractive and completely naked, you start to wonder what she might look like in a really tight sweater or well-fitting jeans. Because after a while the naked body, in non-sexual situations, stops seeming sexual. But the right clothing, in any situation, becomes something of a tease that makes you want to see more. So maybe the artist has a point -- a see-through dress has a titillation factor that, ultimately, a naked body would not.


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Eightballjacket  
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2021-09-28 9:02:16 AM  
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TofuTheAlmighty [BareFark]  
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2021-09-28 9:02:22 AM  
How can bronze be "see through?" Scotty come back in time and trade transparent bronze to save some, I dunno, river dolphins?
 
Harry Freakstorm  
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2021-09-28 9:03:12 AM  
She sets an unreal standard for all the other chick statues.  Especially the ones that were chiseled out back when thicc chicks were considered healthy and sexy.

Me?  I point at the statue of David and laugh.  Must have been cold in that studio, Dave.
 
Pincy  
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2021-09-28 9:03:19 AM  
I love how the photo in the article is a bunch men creepin on the statue.
 
MythDragon  
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2021-09-28 9:03:48 AM  

Teddy Brosevelt: I'm here for the tiddies


I asked that old Loch Ness monster what he wanted, he told me about free tiddies
 
Ghost Roach [BareFark] [OhFark]  
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2021-09-28 9:04:42 AM  

Harry Freakstorm: She sets an unreal standard for all the other chick statues.  Especially the ones that were chiseled out back when thicc chicks were considered healthy and sexy.

Me?  I point at the statue of David and laugh.  Must have been cold in that studio, Dave.


Dude was facing down a GIANT. Anyone would suffer a bit of anxiety
 
LZeitgeist  
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2021-09-28 9:05:29 AM  

TofuTheAlmighty: How can bronze be "see through?" Scotty come back in time and trade transparent bronze to save some, I dunno, river dolphins?


Yeah, that was my thought.

It can be a statue of a woman in a flowing dress that may drape lightly over her form, but there is nothing about bronze that is 'see-through'. The complainers are just using it as a trigger word.
 
aungen [TotalFark] [OhFark]  
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2021-09-28 9:05:51 AM  

Pocket Ninja: ... "you start to wonder what she might look like in a really tight sweater or well-fitting jeans. Because after a while the naked body, in non-sexual situations, stops seeming sexual. But the right clothing, in any situation, becomes something of a tease that makes you want to see more. So maybe the artist has a point -- a see-through dress has a titillation factor that, ultimately, a naked body would not."


I agree.  Decorations are nice.  And taking them off can be a lot of fun.  Anyone who says otherwise, I don't like them.

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freidog  
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2021-09-28 9:06:18 AM  
Guy posing with his dick on full display still considered a world treasure.
 
PaceyWhitter  
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2021-09-28 9:08:13 AM  
How can bronze be see through?
 
big pig peaches  
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2021-09-28 9:09:43 AM  

Pocket Ninja: She wrote on Twitter: "But how can even the institutions accept the representation of a woman as a sexualised body?"
But Stifano has defended the statue, writing on Facebook that had it been up to him the figure would have been "completely naked... simply because I am a lover of the human body".

This calls to mind a conversation I had with an acquaintance of mine who frequents nude beaches and nudist colonies. I don't really pretend to understand his motivations for this -- he claims he just enjoys the freedom but I've also suspected he just likes looking at naked people. But, whatever. Our conversation was about what it's like to have "clothing" removed as any sort of factor you'd use to pre-judge people before getting to know them, and that eventually led to his saying something that's stuck with me for a while. Namely, that after you've spent some time talking a strange woman who's reasonably attractive and completely naked, you start to wonder what she might look like in a really tight sweater or well-fitting jeans. Because after a while the naked body, in non-sexual situations, stops seeming sexual. But the right clothing, in any situation, becomes something of a tease that makes you want to see more. So maybe the artist has a point -- a see-through dress has a titillation factor that, ultimately, a naked body would not.


Looking at the kind of naked bodies that you find on a nude beach and looking at the naked bodies of...say crossfit competitors are two entirely differently things.
 
Juc  
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2021-09-28 9:12:41 AM  
How do you even have a bronze see through anything
 
Nick Nostril  
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2021-09-28 9:14:27 AM  
Is this like transparent aluminum?

/ or aluminium ?
 
Dorf11  
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2021-09-28 9:17:59 AM  

Harry Freakstorm: She sets an unreal standard for all the other chick statues.  Especially the ones that were chiseled out back when thicc chicks were considered healthy and sexy.


Those thicc statue chicks can just eat less chisel more.
 
Barfmaker  
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2021-09-28 9:18:20 AM  
This is just Act I, after a while the statue will develop bright spots where people rub it and that will begin Act II.
 
Patmaniac  
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2021-09-28 9:21:29 AM  
The patina on dat ass is gonna be gone before long.
Polished gold you could see your reflection in.
 
oldfarthenry  
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2021-09-28 9:22:12 AM  
That bronze buttocks is going to cause a lot of strained pinching fingers & bruised peeners. Just sayin'.
 
big pig peaches  
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2021-09-28 9:22:12 AM  
It should be noted that many of the naked marble statues were painted and had clothes sewn on to them when originally displayed.
 
talkertopc  
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2021-09-28 9:22:20 AM  
Is the poem about a woman who seduce people? Then it's fine. Is it about a modest woman? Then it's not.
 
A Cave Geek  
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2021-09-28 9:23:15 AM  
Like the bronze statue of Juliet in Milano, which they have to keep re-cleaning, because of all the guys who make the trek to the statue to rub her boobies making them the only consistently polished part of the statue....because boobies are awesome...Even the ladies have to admit it.
 
TypoFlyspray  
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2021-09-28 9:27:23 AM  
I am so pleased that Italy has run out of serious problems and has time now to be concerned what the shrill and strident have to screech.
 
aungen [TotalFark] [OhFark]  
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2021-09-28 9:33:05 AM  

TypoFlyspray: I am so pleased that Italy has run out of serious problems and has time now to be concerned what the shrill and strident have to screech.


ah, the true nature of the internet above the layers of pron
 
Telos  
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2021-09-28 9:33:43 AM  

Pocket Ninja: I've also suspected he just likes looking at naked people.


Do you not?
 
johnny_vegas [TotalFark]  
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2021-09-28 9:34:01 AM  

freidog: Guy posing with his dick on full display still considered a world treasure.


The cease and desist order I received implies differently
 
Telos  
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2021-09-28 9:35:10 AM  

big pig peaches: Looking at the kind of naked bodies that you find on a nude beach and looking at the naked bodies of...say crossfit competitors are two entirely differently things.


I've never been to one, but I briefly dated a girl who went to one... and would definitely have liked to see her on a nude beach.
 
Foolkiller  
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2021-09-28 9:36:18 AM  
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Alwysadydrmr [TotalFark] [OhFark]  
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2021-09-28 9:36:25 AM  
The sculptor is obviously an ass man, NTTAWWT.
 
DVD  
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2021-09-28 9:36:35 AM  

Fano: Pocket Ninja: She wrote on Twitter: "But how can even the institutions accept the representation of a woman as a sexualised body?"
But Stifano has defended the statue, writing on Facebook that had it been up to him the figure would have been "completely naked... simply because I am a lover of the human body".

This calls to mind a conversation I had with an acquaintance of mine who frequents nude beaches and nudist colonies. I don't really pretend to understand his motivations for this -- he claims he just enjoys the freedom but I've also suspected he just likes looking at naked people. But, whatever. Our conversation was about what it's like to have "clothing" removed as any sort of factor you'd use to pre-judge people before getting to know them, and that eventually led to his saying something that's stuck with me for a while. Namely, that after you've spent some time talking a strange woman who's reasonably attractive and completely naked, you start to wonder what she might look like in a really tight sweater or well-fitting jeans. Because after a while the naked body, in non-sexual situations, stops seeming sexual. But the right clothing, in any situation, becomes something of a tease that makes you want to see more. So maybe the artist has a point -- a see-through dress has a titillation factor that, ultimately, a naked body would not.

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______________________________________________________

The man responsible for turning many Star Trek boy nerds into strangely-designed clothing fetishists.

I was wondering why he died so young, alas it was AIDS.
 
8 inches [TotalFark]  
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2021-09-28 9:39:10 AM  
I'm in Rime right now, so I'm getting a...boner.
 
sunsetlamp  
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2021-09-28 9:41:33 AM  

talkertopc: Is the poem about a woman who seduce people? Then it's fine. Is it about a modest woman? Then it's not.


It's about people dying for some cause or other and this girl watches them and the guy she likes is no longer among them 'cause he died for the cause.  I forget what the cause is.  The focus is not really on the girl, but she's more 'innocent observer' than anything else.

In other words, it's nothing to with sex and the really obvious bronze buttocks are a completely idiotic typically Italian thing to add.
 
Pants full of macaroni!! [BareFark]  
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2021-09-28 9:42:33 AM  
Heh.  One of the guys in the crowd is pledging allegiance to the statue.

/"is that what the kids are calling it now?"
 
untoldforce  
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2021-09-28 9:43:46 AM  
Maybe things have changed in the last few years, but Italy had way more sexism issues than a statue.

Last time I was there two Italian dudes were going around and touching random women's butts on the street. Most of the women were foreigners but the dumb duo made the mistake of touching an Italian woman's ass and she yelled at them and chased them down at least two streets. In heels. Massive respect for her, but Italy needs to get its act together. Random groping is only for Japanese subways. Everyone knows that.

/that was sarcasm
 
nuqneh [TotalFark]  
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2021-09-28 9:46:59 AM  

talkertopc: Is the poem about a woman who seduce people? Then it's fine. Is it about a modest woman? Then it's not.


She's supposed to be a very poor peasant woman, forced to glean wheat in the fields to survive, who witnesses 300 men on a mission to unify Italy massacred in battle.  She's supposed to be a tribute to the Italian patriotic spirit, not a tribute to ass-shaping crossfit workouts.  The artist said he didn't want to sculpt a faithful representation of a peasant woman's anatomy, but an ideal of a woman.  Sexist pig.
 
Unobtanium [TotalFark] [OhFark]  
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2021-09-28 9:54:03 AM  
The work itself to create the look of the dress is very impressive.
 
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2021-09-28 10:03:25 AM  

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It started as a "dad joke" or "dad pun." My art major daughter and I were discussing Toulouse Lautrec and making puns on his name. "Two Goose Lautrec" "Two Loos Lautrec" and then I explained "Gamesters of Triskelion" and thus, "Quatloos Lautrec."

I sent her a link to the Angelique Pettyjohn image, and suggested she re-do it in the style of Lautrec.

For the other inspiration, look at Lautrec's Seated Dancer in Pink Tights.

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big pig peaches  
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2021-09-28 10:13:16 AM  

Telos: big pig peaches: Looking at the kind of naked bodies that you find on a nude beach and looking at the naked bodies of...say crossfit competitors are two entirely differently things.

I've never been to one, but I briefly dated a girl who went to one... and would definitely have liked to see her on a nude beach.


Maybe a "good" nude beach exists, but it is irrelevant to me because I'd never be allowed on it.
 
KB202  
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2021-09-28 10:31:43 AM  
Why should I care about his "art" when he doesn't care about my brain?
 
BitwiseShift  
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2021-09-28 10:51:45 AM  
Could just be an optical illusion, but isn't that John Ashcroft pledging allegiance, with hand on heart, to this nude woman.

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FirstDennis  
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2021-09-28 10:59:32 AM  
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WHAT COLOR IS THE DRESS?

Seems bronze colored to me. A darker bronze color than her skin, even.

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rainbowbutter  
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2021-09-28 11:05:17 AM  

big pig peaches: It should be noted that many of the naked marble statues were painted and had clothes sewn on to them when originally displayed.


BitwiseShift: Could just be an optical illusion, but isn't that John Ashcroft pledging allegiance, with hand on heart, to this nude woman.

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no judgement, but is she... tucking?
 
rainbowbutter  
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2021-09-28 11:08:59 AM  
oh my bad.  that quote from big pig peachesis there because i was going to say wow, i knew about the paint, but not the part about the clothes; that's pretty cool.
 
Juc  
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2021-09-28 11:28:09 AM  

big pig peaches: It should be noted that many of the naked marble statues were painted and had clothes sewn on to them when originally displayed.


I knew about the painting but not the clothes, that's pretty interesting actually.
 
brap [TotalFark]  
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2021-09-28 11:51:09 AM  

BitwiseShift: Could just be an optical illusion, but isn't that John Ashcroft pledging allegiance, with hand on heart, to this nude woman.

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Let the Trouser Hoagie soooooooaaaar. Like she's never soared before. From rocky coast to golden shore, Let the mighty Trouser Hoagie soar.
 
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