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(CNN) Hero "After talking to my mom, I really wanted to help build homes for veterans but together we decided on a more realistic goal. We came up with an idea to make hygiene and grooming kits with thank you cards for veterans in need. I call them Hero Bags"   (cnn.com) divider line
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FormlessOne  
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2019-11-20 2:18:00 PM  
Good on you, kid. Well done.
 
Kalashinator  
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2019-11-20 2:20:45 PM  
An eight-year old is doing something for veterans that our government has failed to do for decades.

Care.

I can't even.

/good on this lil' saint for doing the right thing
 
Somaticasual [TotalFark]  
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2019-11-20 2:21:14 PM  
Faith in the next generation : +1.
That's quite a good deed
 
FuLinHyu [OhFark]  
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2019-11-20 2:22:10 PM  
Hero Bag is what they call your mom

/sorry, couldn't resist
 
skinink [OhFark]  
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2019-11-20 2:23:58 PM  
Great story. Such a nice kid.
 
Salmon  
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2019-11-20 2:24:37 PM  
I think Hero Bags is a good name for the guy in the thread below that explained how his nuts were swollen up to the size of cantaloupes.
 
Frank N Stein  
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2019-11-20 2:24:39 PM  
This just in: Little Tyler Stallings found to have racist tweets.
 
mike4688  
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2019-11-20 2:26:30 PM  
How is it, that people who offer their lives, for a nation of strangers, are still able to end up on the streets? Homeless. Good effort kid. A little means a lot. How millionaires/ billionaires, that do not contribute at all to veterans, sleep at night, I'll never understand. Instead they put infomercials for the working class to donate with 1-800 numbers on TV. And they do, en masse. Where is the love from the rich? They can do so much, but choose to do so little.
 
puffy999 [TotalFark]  
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2019-11-20 2:29:06 PM  
Good on mom in convincing the child that home ownership is an unattainable goal.
 
Eli WhiskeyDik [TotalFark]  
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2019-11-20 2:29:42 PM  
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born_yesterday  
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2019-11-20 2:31:28 PM  

Kalashinator: An eight-year old is doing something for veterans that our government has failed to do for decades.

Care.

I can't even.

/good on this lil' saint for doing the right thing


I want to give the kid a teary hug and punch a Congressman.
 
born_yesterday  
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2019-11-20 2:33:16 PM  

Cdr.Murdock: Good job.

All the rickety political blah blah blah aside.  Quite a few people who suffer from homelessness have an underlying mental health issue.  May would have been able to cope with it had they not ended up in extenuating circumstances.

War sucks.  It's bullshiet, and the costs isn't in dollars, but in ruined humanity.  If any one of our "leaders" understood it, there would be no more war.

I seriously doubt my brother in law would have put a handgun to his chest and tried to killed himself had he not ended up all screwed up from being in Iraq.

After 2 rounds of rehab, he decided to go off to a trailer park in Ohio with his HS "sweetheart" and drink himself to death.  She married him to get a hunk of his civil service pension when he croaks.  Damn slow way to die.  He's bloated up like a blimp and yellow as a daffodil.

I'm convinced he had underlying issues before he went in the military.  Issues that could have been addressed had he remained in civilian life.  It takes a toll on my wife and mother in law as he's broken off contact.

So, good job kid.  Some of these folks on the street never really had a chance from go....


Sorry about your brother.
 
Hooferatheart  
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2019-11-20 2:33:38 PM  
mike4688

How is it, that people who offer their lives, for a nation of strangers, are still able to end up on the streets?

Because the military members are just cogs to be used and replaced when they are broken. We are still paying the cost for WWII veterans.  The cost for veterans from the last 18 years of war will last until the next century.
 
gbv23  
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2019-11-20 2:34:17 PM  
Ya know who's a hero veteran?

Lt. Col Vindman  (just like in The Caine Mutiny)


'Disgrace to all who have served':
Conservative veterans decry Vindman after public impeachment testimony
 
tenyearsdowntheroad  
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2019-11-20 2:37:53 PM  
Good kind.  

What if we lived in a country where veterans didn't have to rely on the a kid to meet their basic needs.

That would be something.
 
groppet [TotalFark]  
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2019-11-20 2:38:36 PM  
Good job kid, keep fighting the good fight.
 
mike4688  
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2019-11-20 2:42:37 PM  

Hooferatheart: mike4688

How is it, that people who offer their lives, for a nation of strangers, are still able to end up on the streets?

Because the military members are just cogs to be used and replaced when they are broken. We are still paying the cost for WWII veterans.  The cost for veterans from the last 18 years of war will last until the next century.


Are we paying the cost of wwii vets, or reaping the rewards of their sacrifice? I dare you to walk into any VA and announce that they are all just replaceable, cogs in the wheel whether you really believe that or not. What happened to respect? Unbelievable.
 
thegreatmurgatroid  
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2019-11-20 2:47:40 PM  

mike4688: How is it, that people who offer their lives, for a nation of strangers, are still able to end up on the streets? Homeless. Good effort kid. A little means a lot. How millionaires/ billionaires, that do not contribute at all to veterans, sleep at night, I'll never understand. Instead they put infomercials for the working class to donate with 1-800 numbers on TV. And they do, en masse. Where is the love from the rich? They can do so much, but choose to do so little.


There are extensive programs within the VA to assist with homelessness.  Many more options than the civilian sector.

You cant force people, veterans or otherwise, into housing though.  So this problem will continue to exist despite the naive views of many.
 
DVD  
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2019-11-20 2:50:48 PM  

mike4688: Hooferatheart: mike4688

How is it, that people who offer their lives, for a nation of strangers, are still able to end up on the streets?

Because the military members are just cogs to be used and replaced when they are broken. We are still paying the cost for WWII veterans.  The cost for veterans from the last 18 years of war will last until the next century.

Are we paying the cost of wwii vets, or reaping the rewards of their sacrifice? I dare you to walk into any VA and announce that they are all just replaceable, cogs in the wheel whether you really believe that or not. What happened to respect? Unbelievable.


But be sure to walk into your local VA before Trump-ublicans try for another round of shutting them down in order to make way for another billionaire tax cut.

If Democrats really want to make more inroads against Republicans, call out the Republican politician's tendency to wave the flag with one hand, while cutting support for injured vets and the poor in general, with the other hand.  Call it out in detail and call out Fixed News and Own Americans Now News for supporting this via silence on the issue.
 
mike4688  
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2019-11-20 2:53:54 PM  

thegreatmurgatroid: mike4688: How is it, that people who offer their lives, for a nation of strangers, are still able to end up on the streets? Homeless. Good effort kid. A little means a lot. How millionaires/ billionaires, that do not contribute at all to veterans, sleep at night, I'll never understand. Instead they put infomercials for the working class to donate with 1-800 numbers on TV. And they do, en masse. Where is the love from the rich? They can do so much, but choose to do so little.

There are extensive programs within the VA to assist with homelessness.  Many more options than the civilian sector.

You cant force people, veterans or otherwise, into housing though.  So this problem will continue to exist despite the naive views of many.


Extensive programs... I hate to break it to you friend but if you talk to homeless vets a lot of them will tell you, the most the VA can do for some of them is a couple free granola bars on Veterans Day. Not saying they don't do anything, just saying. Talk to homeless vets and see how much it helps. It depends on the individual of course but a lot are left out in the cold that should be getting help. It'd be naive to lump them all in as "getting help" or " getting screwed over." But a lot do need help that aren't getting it & that's f'd up.
 
xxBirdMadGirlxx  
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2019-11-20 2:56:21 PM  

born_yesterday: Kalashinator: An eight-year old is doing something for veterans that our government has failed to do for decades.

Care.

I can't even.

/good on this lil' saint for doing the right thing

I want to give the kid a teary hug and punch a Congressman.


I'd hold your coat.

/ By 'hold your coat' I mean 'provide you with an alibi'
// For the punching , of course
/// But I'd still hold your coat, I mean, I'm not a heathen
 
Hooferatheart  
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2019-11-20 2:57:49 PM  
mike4688

My father was a career military man starting in 1942.  I realize the sacrifices made by the members of the armed services.  I saw what the war did to my father. But the history of treatment for veterans in the U.S has been and is less than adequate. Yes we are paying the costs of war both financially, but more importantly in the cost damaged lives. With the amount of money we spend on the military you would think that more of it would go to those who served and are serving instead of weapons contractors.
 
mike4688  
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2019-11-20 3:02:33 PM  

Hooferatheart: mike4688

My father was a career military man starting in 1942.  I realize the sacrifices made by the members of the armed services.  I saw what the war did to my father. But the history of treatment for veterans in the U.S has been and is less than adequate. Yes we are paying the costs of war both financially, but more importantly in the cost damaged lives. With the amount of money we spend on the military you would think that more of it would go to those who served and are serving instead of weapons contractors.


Agree 100% & thanks to your pops for his service.
 
camarugala  
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2019-11-20 4:58:59 PM  
Despite the massive amount of controversial subject matter in the book, Heinlein had a good concept with the whole "service guarantees citizenship" approach. And, let's face it there are all kinds of service out there. The majority of which doesn't include the military at all.
 
GreenSun  
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2019-11-20 5:58:51 PM  
Building homes is more expensive than handing out grooming bags.
 
stray_capts  
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2019-11-20 6:30:27 PM  

thegreatmurgatroid: mike4688: How is it, that people who offer their lives, for a nation of strangers, are still able to end up on the streets? Homeless. Good effort kid. A little means a lot. How millionaires/ billionaires, that do not contribute at all to veterans, sleep at night, I'll never understand. Instead they put infomercials for the working class to donate with 1-800 numbers on TV. And they do, en masse. Where is the love from the rich? They can do so much, but choose to do so little.

There are extensive programs within the VA to assist with homelessness.  Many more options than the civilian sector.

You cant force people, veterans or otherwise, into housing though.  So this problem will continue to exist despite the naive views of many.


I'm a disabled veteran, albeit I have no mental illness.  The VA has been very, very good to me.  Others' mileage may vary.
 
waxbeans  
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2019-11-20 7:25:30 PM  
I don't know why we don't give soldiers money to buy a home, when they exit? Hell we give inmate 300$ so we can't give exiting vets 300K???
 
Nina_Hartley's_Ass  
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2019-11-20 9:22:37 PM  
"Thank you for your service. Now get a haircut and take a bath, ya hippy!"
 
ZeroPly  
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2019-11-20 9:35:46 PM  

waxbeans: I don't know why we don't give soldiers money to buy a home, when they exit? Hell we give inmate 300$ so we can't give exiting vets 300K???


Contrary to Fark collective wisdom, the government doesn't just drop veterans off at a homeless shelter with a duffel bag full of WWII surplus gear. There are a TON of services available, and if you're a veteran who's reasonably financially responsible, getting a home loan isn't hard.

Now on the other hand, you have 24 year olds who want to spend that sweet sweet deployment money on a Dodge Charger, but not with the sh*tty audio upgrade that Dodge offers, but with a real $18K system that their uncle Kevin can hook them up with. Picture giving them a nice fat check for $300K.

As far as homelessness, there are around 40,000 vets who are homeless right now. Almost all of them are not interested in government assistance. There was a serious push a few years back to bring that number to zero, but the VA finally acknowledged that it would never get to zero, because a lot of those vets didn't want anything to do with the government. Any vet who goes to a local VA and tells them that he's homeless, will get SOME type of assistance. That's just a given.
 
Bruscar  
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2019-11-20 10:15:55 PM  
Houses of Worship have made BLESSING bags next door to forever. They are distributed to the homeless at shelters, camps, soup kitchens, and other places the homeless gather.

I know that both Christian churches and Jewish synagogues put them together. In fact, they are popular projects for religious education because even preschoolers can drop a toothbrush, a small bar of soap, and other items into a bag.

But, yes, I'm sure these people totally invented this entirely new concept known as Hero bags.
 
Bruscar  
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2019-11-20 10:36:32 PM  

ZeroPly: waxbeans: I don't know why we don't give soldiers money to buy a home, when they exit? Hell we give inmate 300$ so we can't give exiting vets 300K???

Contrary to Fark collective wisdom, the government doesn't just drop veterans off at a homeless shelter with a duffel bag full of WWII surplus gear. There are a TON of services available, and if you're a veteran who's reasonably financially responsible, getting a home loan isn't hard.

Now on the other hand, you have 24 year olds who want to spend that sweet sweet deployment money on a Dodge Charger, but not with the sh*tty audio upgrade that Dodge offers, but with a real $18K system that their uncle Kevin can hook them up with. Picture giving them a nice fat check for $300K.

As far as homelessness, there are around 40,000 vets who are homeless right now. Almost all of them are not interested in government assistance. There was a serious push a few years back to bring that number to zero, but the VA finally acknowledged that it would never get to zero, because a lot of those vets didn't want anything to do with the government. Any vet who goes to a local VA and tells them that he's homeless, will get SOME type of assistance. That's just a given.


But maybe WaxBeans is on to something? What if the idea is tweaked a bit?

1. No cash payouts, but a voucher good only toward the purchase of a house, townhome, or condo.
2. The property must be appraised and priced at or below appraisal.
3. To prevent flipping, the vet must live in the home for a certain number (3? 7?) of years or make monthly payments to repay the value of the voucher at one or two percent interest annually.
4. No voucher is issued to anyone dishonorably discharged.
5. Voucher's are available to all enlisted men, but restricted to officers at or below O-3.


Would that work? How can the idea be improved?
 
Robinfro  
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2019-11-21 1:13:57 AM  

Bruscar: ZeroPly: waxbeans: I don't know why we don't give soldiers money to buy a home, when they exit? Hell we give inmate 300$ so we can't give exiting vets 300K???

Contrary to Fark collective wisdom, the government doesn't just drop veterans off at a homeless shelter with a duffel bag full of WWII surplus gear. There are a TON of services available, and if you're a veteran who's reasonably financially responsible, getting a home loan isn't hard.

Now on the other hand, you have 24 year olds who want to spend that sweet sweet deployment money on a Dodge Charger, but not with the sh*tty audio upgrade that Dodge offers, but with a real $18K system that their uncle Kevin can hook them up with. Picture giving them a nice fat check for $300K.

As far as homelessness, there are around 40,000 vets who are homeless right now. Almost all of them are not interested in government assistance. There was a serious push a few years back to bring that number to zero, but the VA finally acknowledged that it would never get to zero, because a lot of those vets didn't want anything to do with the government. Any vet who goes to a local VA and tells them that he's homeless, will get SOME type of assistance. That's just a given.

But maybe WaxBeans is on to something? What if the idea is tweaked a bit?

1. No cash payouts, but a voucher good only toward the purchase of a house, townhome, or condo.
2. The property must be appraised and priced at or below appraisal.
3. To prevent flipping, the vet must live in the home for a certain number (3? 7?) of years or make monthly payments to repay the value of the voucher at one or two percent interest annually.
4. No voucher is issued to anyone dishonorably discharged.
5. Voucher's are available to all enlisted men, but restricted to officers at or below O-3.


Would that work? How can the idea be improved?


Jobs for people who have blown-out knees or hips.

As Fark's resident homeless dude, I know a few homeless vets and it's bc they can't find work bc of either Nam or Desert Storm injuries. A foot blister turned into gangrene, an IED took off an arm. One dude had to kill a guy in Desert Storm and he has flashbacks from the attempted raid where they tried to steal the hummers. He's been evicted twice because he disturbs the neighbors waking up screaming. It's easier to live in the woods in a tent.


https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10161562511545467&id=140016920466&sfnsn=mo

If I hadn't been too deaf to be so much as a cook despite my ASVAB score, I would've been part of this convoy. The VA has shiat for funding, and it's not spent on anyone who's seen active duty, just the poster-child well-adjusted people who did 4/8/20 years behind a desk or bulkhead.
 
xxBirdMadGirlxx  
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2019-11-21 9:18:40 AM  

Bruscar: Houses of Worship have made BLESSING bags next door to forever. They are distributed to the homeless at shelters, camps, soup kitchens, and other places the homeless gather.

I know that both Christian churches and Jewish synagogues put them together. In fact, they are popular projects for religious education because even preschoolers can drop a toothbrush, a small bar of soap, and other items into a bag.

But, yes, I'm sure these people totally invented this entirely new concept known as Hero bags.


Who care who invented it? They're doing it. And in this day and age, all good intentions aside, basic human necessities shouldn't be considered 'blessings.'
 
Somaticasual [TotalFark]  
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2019-11-21 11:27:32 AM  

Bruscar: Houses of Worship have made BLESSING bags next door to forever. They are distributed to the homeless at shelters, camps, soup kitchens, and other places the homeless gather.

I know that both Christian churches and Jewish synagogues put them together. In fact, they are popular projects for religious education because even preschoolers can drop a toothbrush, a small bar of soap, and other items into a bag.

But, yes, I'm sure these people totally invented this entirely new concept known as Hero bags.


OTOH, If sharing it can encourage others to do good deeds likewise, why denigrate it?
Even if it's not a new concept, it's still making a difference.
 
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