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(Al Jazeera)   Russia to send S-300 air defense missiles to Syria, in the apparent hopes that they may provide a fine light show before being blasted by Israeli jets   (aljazeera.com) divider line
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2018-09-24 10:21:43 AM  
I'm pretty sure they're for shooting down Migs.
 
Dick Gozinya  
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2018-09-24 10:36:43 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: I'm pretty sure they're for shooting down Migs airliners.


FTFY
 
Tr0mBoNe [TotalFark]  
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2018-09-24 10:41:22 AM  
Oh, geeze. Hopefully they don't get HARM'ed
 
cgraves67  
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2018-09-24 10:41:31 AM  
If I recall correctly, the Israelis blew up a previous Russian/Syrian SAM site when the operators stepped outside for a smoke.
 
2018-09-24 10:44:11 AM  
Looks like an air deployed hedgehog.

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2018-09-24 10:44:53 AM  

Tr0mBoNe: Hopefully they don't get HARM'ed

They're really very short on charm.
 
robodog  
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2018-09-24 10:47:10 AM  

Dick Gozinya: Marcus Aurelius: I'm pretty sure they're for shooting down Migs airliners.

FTFY


Or Russian spy planes =)
 
OneManArmy  
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2018-09-24 10:48:03 AM  

dragonchild: Tr0mBoNe: Hopefully they don't get HARM'ed
They're really very short on charm.


Stop rhyming! I mean it!
 
2018-09-24 10:49:02 AM  

cowgirl toffee: Looks like an air deployed hedgehog.

[i.gifer.com image 440x360]


Be careful of those air deployed hedgehogs.

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2018-09-24 10:49:04 AM  
Hope it works better than your Pantsir.

Syria: Missile-Mounted Camera Shows Israeli Strike on Syrian Interceptor System
Youtube YPt3nMYfr_k
 
dragonchild  
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2018-09-24 10:50:07 AM  

OneManArmy: dragonchild: Tr0mBoNe: Hopefully they don't get HARM'ed
They're really very short on charm.
Stop rhyming! I mean it!

Anybody want a peanut?
 
2018-09-24 10:51:22 AM  

DarkSoulNoHope: cowgirl toffee: Looks like an air deployed hedgehog.

[i.gifer.com image 440x360]

Be careful of those air deployed hedgehogs.

[img.fark.net image 850x478]


Almost as cute as the river deployed hedgehog.  *eeeeee!*

static.boredpanda.comView Full Size
 
jaytkay [OhFark]  
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2018-09-24 10:55:07 AM  

BigNumber12: Hope it works better than your Pantsir.

[Youtube YPt3nMYfr_k image 480x270][Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/YPt3nMYfr_k]


That guy running towards the target...

"Ivan, did you turn the radars on?"
"I thought you turned the radars on, Yuri."
"No. I'll go do it now!"
 
2018-09-24 10:55:37 AM  
Step 1: Get your own ELINT plane shot down by your ally using your older air defense system
Step 2: Sell your ally some new, improved air defense systems
Step 3: ????
 
toraque [TotalFark] [OhFark]  
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2018-09-24 10:58:57 AM  

bern_viking: Step 1: Get your own ELINT plane shot down by your ally using your older air defense system
Step 2: Sell your ally some new, improved air defense systems
Step 3: ????


Step 3: Sell them an even newer one once the current ones get annihilated by Israeli F-35s.

"Trust me, this new system will totally work.  Pinky swear."
 
way south  
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2018-09-24 10:59:58 AM  

Dick Gozinya: Marcus Aurelius: I'm pretty sure they're for shooting down Migs airliners.

FTFY



S300 salesman:
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2018-09-24 11:00:51 AM  
You know why they call it the S-300? Because this is what the poor bastard who's manning it says the minute the air raid siren goes off...

Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! Shiat! SHIIIIIIIAT!
 
2018-09-24 11:02:59 AM  

toraque: bern_viking: Step 1: Get your own ELINT plane shot down by your ally using your older air defense system
Step 2: Sell your ally some new, improved air defense systems
Step 3: ????

Step 3: Sell them an even newer one once the current ones get annihilated by Israeli F-35s.

"Trust me, this new system will totally work.  Pinky swear."


How will that be possible? According to every Fark thread I've ever seen on the subject, the F-35 is a hangar queen, so beset by problems that it is both dangerous and useless at the same time.
 
2018-09-24 11:07:56 AM  

jaytkay: BigNumber12: Hope it works better than your Pantsir.

[Youtube YPt3nMYfr_k image 480x270][Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/YPt3nMYfr_k]

That guy running towards the target...

"Ivan, did you turn the radars on?"
"I thought you turned the radars on, Yuri."
"No. I'll go do it now!"


Don't anti-radiation missiles home in on active radars? Wouldn't Yuri be running to turn them off?
 
2018-09-24 11:12:12 AM  

dragonchild: Tr0mBoNe: Hopefully they don't get HARM'ed
They're really very short on charm.


I regret I only have one funny to give to this.

Well played, friend. Well played.
 
gremlin79  
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2018-09-24 11:13:04 AM  

dragonchild: Tr0mBoNe: Hopefully they don't get HARM'ed
They're really very short on charm.


You have a great gift for rhyme.
 
way south  
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2018-09-24 11:14:36 AM  

gremlin79: dragonchild: Tr0mBoNe: Hopefully they don't get HARM'ed
They're really very short on charm.

You have a great gift for rhyme.


Because he does that all the time.
 
2018-09-24 11:16:55 AM  

Dick Gozinya: jaytkay: BigNumber12: Hope it works better than your Pantsir.

[Youtube YPt3nMYfr_k image 480x270][Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/YPt3nMYfr_k]

That guy running towards the target...

"Ivan, did you turn the radars on?"
"I thought you turned the radars on, Yuri."
"No. I'll go do it now!"

Don't anti-radiation missiles home in on active radars? Wouldn't Yuri be running to turn them off?


It was probably a Delilah, which has on-board autopilot and inertial navigation-global positioning navigation systems, so Hamza, Rashad, and their special friend Yuri were screwed no matter what they did. Doubly so if they were truly "out of ammo" as the Kremlin mouthpieces claim (unlikely).

But yeah, years of training to respond to anti-radiation strikes probably taught them that Step 1 is "Turn that shiat off pronto"
 
emarche  
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2018-09-24 11:19:41 AM  

OneManArmy: Stop rhyming! I mean it!


Anybody want a peanut?
 
2018-09-24 11:21:19 AM  

way south: gremlin79: dragonchild: Tr0mBoNe: Hopefully they don't get HARM'ed
They're really very short on charm.
You have a great gift for rhyme.
Because he does that all the time. Yes, some other time


Are there rocks ahead?
 
2018-09-24 11:21:52 AM  

BigNumber12: Dick Gozinya: jaytkay: BigNumber12: Hope it works better than your Pantsir.

[Youtube YPt3nMYfr_k image 480x270][Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/YPt3nMYfr_k]

That guy running towards the target...

"Ivan, did you turn the radars on?"
"I thought you turned the radars on, Yuri."
"No. I'll go do it now!"

Don't anti-radiation missiles home in on active radars? Wouldn't Yuri be running to turn them off?

It was probably a Delilah, which has on-board autopilot and inertial navigation-global positioning navigation systems, so Hamza, Rashad, and their special friend Yuri were screwed no matter what they did. Doubly so if they were truly "out of ammo" as the Kremlin mouthpieces claim (unlikely).

But yeah, years of training to respond to anti-radiation strikes probably taught them that Step 1 is "Turn that shiat off pronto"


It was my understanding that Russian SAM radars normally operate in a burst mode, where they turn on for a few seconds, then off, then on again, etc, just to throw off anti-radiation missiles. And only a moron would put it in the "full on" setting (aka: "suicide setting") because it basically paints "come blow my ass up" all over yourself in big neon letters.
 
Wizzywig  
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2018-09-24 11:29:07 AM  

cgraves67: If I recall correctly, the Israelis blew up a previous Russian/Syrian SAM site when the operators stepped outside for a smoke.


Have a Link? Not arguing; however, I am genuinely curious.

Baggin an SA-22 is a major feather in their cap.

Make no mistake, however, the older SA-10 can easily shoot down an f-16 . This is a major issue for the Israelis.
 
2018-09-24 11:32:38 AM  

Dick Gozinya: BigNumber12: Dick Gozinya: jaytkay: BigNumber12: Hope it works better than your Pantsir.

[Youtube YPt3nMYfr_k image 480x270][Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/YPt3nMYfr_k]

That guy running towards the target...

"Ivan, did you turn the radars on?"
"I thought you turned the radars on, Yuri."
"No. I'll go do it now!"

Don't anti-radiation missiles home in on active radars? Wouldn't Yuri be running to turn them off?

It was probably a Delilah, which has on-board autopilot and inertial navigation-global positioning navigation systems, so Hamza, Rashad, and their special friend Yuri were screwed no matter what they did. Doubly so if they were truly "out of ammo" as the Kremlin mouthpieces claim (unlikely).

But yeah, years of training to respond to anti-radiation strikes probably taught them that Step 1 is "Turn that shiat off pronto"

It was my understanding that Russian SAM radars normally operate in a burst mode, where they turn on for a few seconds, then off, then on again, etc, just to throw off anti-radiation missiles. And only a moron would put it in the "full on" setting (aka: "suicide setting") because it basically paints "come blow my ass up" all over yourself in big neon letters.


That's probably completely true. But given the state of conscription in both Syria and Russia, I'm sure that guy's state of mind was "fark fark do something quick" when he heard what was in progress.
 
2018-09-24 11:34:23 AM  

Wizzywig: cgraves67: If I recall correctly, the Israelis blew up a previous Russian/Syrian SAM site when the operators stepped outside for a smoke.

Have a Link? Not arguing; however, I am genuinely curious.

Baggin an SA-22 is a major feather in their cap.


Video above.

Link: https://theaviationist.com/2018/05/10/the-israeli-air-force-has-just-released-a-video-of-a-pantsir-s1-air-defense-system-being-struck-in-last-night-attack-in-syria/
 
Thunderboy [OhFark]  
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2018-09-24 11:36:17 AM  

Dick Gozinya: jaytkay: BigNumber12: Hope it works better than your Pantsir.

[Youtube YPt3nMYfr_k image 480x270][Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/YPt3nMYfr_k]

That guy running towards the target...

"Ivan, did you turn the radars on?"
"I thought you turned the radars on, Yuri."
"No. I'll go do it now!"

Don't anti-radiation missiles home in on active radars? Wouldn't Yuri be running to turn them off?


It's a Delilah missile, which uses GPS/inertial guidance, as well as electro-optical guidance. It isn't an anti-radiation missile. The first tell is that there is on-board footage - contrary to popular belief, very few missiles/bombs have this capability.
 
2018-09-24 11:41:09 AM  
Throw rocks from Outer Space

The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress - R Heinlein
 
runwiz [TotalFark] [OhFark]  
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2018-09-24 11:44:45 AM  
This is definitely an upgrade in air defense.  However these systems are not idiot proof.  You still need quality trained operators.
 
2018-09-24 12:03:27 PM  
Is there enough left of the Sirian economy to be able to pay for more missiles?
 
2018-09-24 12:14:55 PM  
I think its just Russia figuring out that they dislike the Syrians shooting down Russian planes.

Perhaps the S-300 is more user friendly, and also able to react whilst the attack is ongoing?
 
flynn80  
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2018-09-24 12:16:43 PM  
Russia playing defense, US and Israel being offensive.  Can't have peace in the middle east as long as we keep selling weapons for war.  Stop the racketeering, to stop the rocketeers from blowing up oil producing nations.
 
2018-09-24 12:17:33 PM  
Russia already have S-400 systems in Syria btw. But they're manned by Russians, and not directed at Israel.
 
2018-09-24 12:18:06 PM  

Thrakkorzog: Is there enough left of the Sirian economy to be able to pay for more missiles?


Assad could just give then another pier at Tartus.
 
ArkPanda [TotalFark]  
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2018-09-24 12:18:40 PM  

Thunderboy: Dick Gozinya: jaytkay: BigNumber12: Hope it works better than your Pantsir.

[Youtube YPt3nMYfr_k image 480x270][Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/YPt3nMYfr_k]

That guy running towards the target...

"Ivan, did you turn the radars on?"
"I thought you turned the radars on, Yuri."
"No. I'll go do it now!"

Don't anti-radiation missiles home in on active radars? Wouldn't Yuri be running to turn them off?

It's a Delilah missile, which uses GPS/inertial guidance, as well as electro-optical guidance. It isn't an anti-radiation missile. The first tell is that there is on-board footage - contrary to popular belief, very few missiles/bombs have this capability.


What that means is if it detects an air defense radar, which then mysteriously disappears, it continues to where it was and explodes anyway, on the basis that the radar is probably still there with its head under a blanket.  This seems obvious, but a lot of older missiles only had one kind of guidance and if it lost radar or infrared or whatever, it just gave up.
 
Thunderboy [OhFark]  
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2018-09-24 12:28:31 PM  

ArkPanda: Thunderboy: Dick Gozinya: jaytkay: BigNumber12: Hope it works better than your Pantsir.

[Youtube YPt3nMYfr_k image 480x270][Youtube-video https://www.youtube.com/embed/YPt3nMYfr_k]

That guy running towards the target...

"Ivan, did you turn the radars on?"
"I thought you turned the radars on, Yuri."
"No. I'll go do it now!"

Don't anti-radiation missiles home in on active radars? Wouldn't Yuri be running to turn them off?

It's a Delilah missile, which uses GPS/inertial guidance, as well as electro-optical guidance. It isn't an anti-radiation missile. The first tell is that there is on-board footage - contrary to popular belief, very few missiles/bombs have this capability.

What that means...


What what means? GPS/inertial guidance? That means it flies to where it is told to. As the Delilah, again, is not an anti-radiation missile, it isn't "detecting" anything.
 
Xzano  
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2018-09-24 12:59:31 PM  

bern_viking: Step 1: Get your own ELINT plane shot down by your ally using your older air defense system
Step 2: Sell your ally some new, improved air defense systems
Step 3: ????


Step 3, remember how that surly Jewish neighbor came and blew up the last one, then told you not to ever do that again.

Step 4. promise to replace it, at a later date.

Step 5. go to step 2
 
2018-09-24 1:06:25 PM  

cowgirl toffee: DarkSoulNoHope: cowgirl toffee: Looks like an air deployed hedgehog.

[i.gifer.com image 440x360]

Be careful of those air deployed hedgehogs.

[img.fark.net image 850x478]

Almost as cute as the river deployed hedgehog.  *eeeeee!*

[static.boredpanda.com image 850x446]


#MakeHedgehogsGreatAgain

Fark user imageView Full Size
 
2018-09-24 1:11:33 PM  
S-300, S-400.

Whatever it takes.
 
2018-09-24 1:20:33 PM  

spooky.action: cowgirl toffee: DarkSoulNoHope: cowgirl toffee: Looks like an air deployed hedgehog.

[i.gifer.com image 440x360]

Be careful of those air deployed hedgehogs.

[img.fark.net image 850x478]

Almost as cute as the river deployed hedgehog.  *eeeeee!*

[static.boredpanda.com image 850x446]

#MakeHedgehogsGreatAgain

[img.fark.net image 400x450]


First pic I have ever seen that made me want to go squeeee and barf at the same time, well done.
 
2018-09-24 1:43:40 PM  

Dick Gozinya: toraque: bern_viking: Step 1: Get your own ELINT plane shot down by your ally using your older air defense system
Step 2: Sell your ally some new, improved air defense systems
Step 3: ????

Step 3: Sell them an even newer one once the current ones get annihilated by Israeli F-35s.

"Trust me, this new system will totally work.  Pinky swear."

How will that be possible? According to every Fark thread I've ever seen on the subject, the F-35 is a hangar queen, so beset by problems that it is both dangerous and useless at the same time.


It doesn't rain much in Israel.
 
stuffy  
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2018-09-24 2:24:07 PM  
So they can shoot down their own planes more accurately.
 
2018-09-24 2:50:55 PM  
So American satellites will pinpoint the S-300,400,500 sites ( along with radar/ ammo storage and hq buildings), share with the Israel military, and then artillery, rockets, cruise missiles and aircraft will bomb the fark outta them. Cool... big explosions!

Much fun!
 
jso2897 [TotalFark]  
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2018-09-24 4:03:09 PM  
Looks like another cakewalk where we'll be greeted as liberators.
 
2018-09-24 4:12:03 PM  
Only folks this should scare are Russians attempting to operate these and of course their own pilots. (and of course the innocent passengers aboard the stray passenger jet flying in the wrong place at the wrong time).
 
2018-09-24 4:43:04 PM  
The Israelis were bragging not long ago about flying F-35s over Syria without being detected by Russian radar. You can't hit what you don't know is there.
 
2018-09-24 6:29:03 PM  
I just love these guys
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