Jones is statistically a better striker than Adesanya

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Jones and Adesanya are the same height and similar reach. But for all Adesanya's kickboxing accolades and experience, Jones is statistically better everywhere standing.

Per the UFC site - Jones has much better defence. Adesanya absorbs twice as many significant strikes per minute as Jones, 3 vs 1.5. He has an overall striking defence rate of 56% compared to 67% for Jon.

Jones also has higher striking accuracy and a more much more diverse range of attacks. (Knees, spin kicks, elbows, oblique kicks)

Intangibles like cardio and chin also go to Jon.

Both in their primes, how would you see a stand up fight between them at LHW playing out?

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Izzy in his prime was an exciting fighter then he turned to a point fighter. This also kinda happened to Jones, but Jones was exciting longer. I think Jon would win based on wrestling ability. I don't see izzy stopping prime Jones takedowns
 
"Striking defense" is high with grapplers or guys who think they are being taken down because they can't spam volume strikes. It's a deceptive statistic. You don't really get hit when you take down your opponents and they are on their back. Let me guess Khabib and GSP have high striking defense too?

To be fair both guys use their reach and don't give their opponents openings. But with Jones you have to worry about the takedown so you're even more cautious. It's just different styles.
 
Jitter said:
Izzy in his prime was an exciting fighter then he turned to a point fighter. This also kinda happened to Jones, but Jones was exciting longer. I think Jon would win based on wrestling ability. I don't see izzy stopping prime Jones takedowns
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He's only a point fighter when he's defending the title as he's much more risk averse. When he's fighting for the title he takes risks and showcases the style we all loved.

Jon's the same.
 
Jones would easily win and it is not at all surprising that he is the better striker in MMA. The threat of the takedown changes everything and Jones has gone 14 years in the UFC without ever being dropped let alone stopped with strikes and that was against FAR greater competition.

Izzy is a GOOD but not great fighter who is still woefully one-dimensionally and he's very fortunate to be competing in one of the thinnest divisions of any era EVER. He rarely wins convincingly even when he's fighting opponents tailor made for him to beat so no, I wouldn't put him anywhere near the top 20 GOAT list let alone believe he could do anything against Jones.
 
Tweak896 said:
"Striking defense" is high with grapplers or guys who think they are being taken down because they can't spam volume strikes. It's a deceptive statistic. You don't really get hit when you take down your opponents and they are on their back. Let me guess Khabib and GSP have high striking defense too?

To be fair both guys use their reach and don't give their opponents openings. But with Jones you have to worry about the takedown so you're even more cautious. It's just different styles.
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Exactly, context matters. People go on and on about Khabib and Islam's striking defense despite the fact that they're grapplers. Same goes for striking accuracy when most of your strikes are ground and pound or from the clinch.
 
The striking stats on the website and with fightmetric in general is trash. "Significant strike" is anything that even blows air on the face of your opponent.

It's also highly subjective fight to fight.

Also, "statistically" is just that. Statistics and practical application aren't the same thing.
 
Jon actually has a 4,5 reach advantage over Jizzy.
Eyepokes, TD threat...

Izzy isn't a great striker considering his height/reach advantages and neither is Jon. But Jones is a great wrestler and very versatile.
Izzy is 1-3 against Pereira, lost to Jan, lost to Strickland.
Lost to 5'10 Romero and looked bad vs 5'9 Gastelum till Kelvin totally gassed. I mean c'mon he had a 9 !! inch reach advantage over Gastelum.
 
That's due to the fact that Jon presents problems on multiple fronts for his opponents.
Drop your hands to defend a potential TD and get elbowed in the face from 8 ft away.

Izzy ain't shooting TDs or clinching for an upper body throw/trip/etc...

Jitter said:
Izzy in his prime was an exciting fighter then he turned to a point fighter. This also kinda happened to Jones, but Jones was exciting longer. I think Jon would win based on wrestling ability. I don't see izzy stopping prime Jones takedowns
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While I'm inclined to say that this might be a bit premature, it'll be interesting to see if you're right.
 
He’s more well rounded. And the man uses his length far better than any fighter around. It’s pretty damn impressive. Can’t stand the guy. Hate that he is so skilled, but it is what it is. His ped situation will always be a problem but he is by far the most skilled fighter around. And I hate admitting that but if I believe bonds should be hof I feel I have to acknowledge Jones’ ability as well.
 
Tweak896 said:
"Striking defense" is high with grapplers or guys who think they are being taken down because they can't spam volume strikes. It's a deceptive statistic. You don't really get hit when you take down your opponents and they are on their back. Let me guess Khabib and GSP have high striking defense too?
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That's now how that stat works. It's a percentage that represents how many incoming strikes you avoid. If you take an opponent down and they're not throwing strikes at you, then that percentage does not change in either direction.

Also, comparing Jon's style to that of Khabib or even GSP is absurd. Aside from Gane, Jon has been almost entirely kickboxing with most of his opponents for years.
 
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