Some of you guys are strange. 14 years and you just pretend she wasn’t fully recovered from Covid or had a knee injury during that camp as well?
I honestly don’t know anymore what the story is with some people. Do you honestly not remember Covid? How do people forget it. The fight was postponed because Amanda had it. I know there are Shevchenko fans that are 100% dishonest. Especially one that never mentions Covid or the headbutt Pena hit Amanda with, but whatever.
But this “which Amanda” shows up is ridiculous. There is only one. And she was not healthy and should not have fought that night.
What does being a Val fan have to do with an opinion on what happened with Amanda that night? You yourself are super defensive about Nunes because you’re admittedly a big fan and she’s your favorite fighter which I saw you post in a thread before. If anything, you’re biased. And you take any attack on Nunes to certainly be someone else being biased.
We’ve had this debate in multiple threads. But let me give it a try.
I’m not really much of a fan in sports in general. I’m a professional gambler. I’m basically a fan of who I bet and my opinion. So truth is, I’m actually pretty unbiased here. If I was gonna list some of my preferred fighters to listen to in interviews, Val isn’t in one of them. 3 off the top: Whitaker, Khabib, Benny.
Where is this going? If someone is being objective, Val won the 2nd fight vs Nunes. It was a close fight, but the decision was maybe not a robbery, but a bad one. Weasel has a great breakdown of it. The average scorecard on MMA decision was 71% - 26, so almost 3-1, in favor of Val. More media scorecards were for her. I’ve rewatched the fight 3 times or so (I didn’t bet on it or watch it at the time it happened) - and each time scored it for Val.
sure everyone had their opinion. Some people think the earth is flat. They are just idiots. You can think Nunes won that fight, but you’re sort of a bad judge if so.
so why do I say this?
That result drastically changes the narrative around them. Nunes went on to be UFC titled women’s GOAT. Val, not so much.
If the result was accurate, their careers would have played out differently.
It also doesn’t mean Val is better. After all Nunes won the first decision. So technically they are 1-1.
and all that is besides the point that obviously Val’s proper weight class is 125 - where she dominated and never once missed weight. Nunes could never realistically make 125. Point is, Nunes is significantly bigger and has a weight advantage. Which matters. If you were going to match them in a P4P style rating? Well then you’d have to pick Val, 100%. But p4p isn’t how fighting really works.
Both are amazing fighters. They’ve both had incredible careers. That fight really was a lucky sliding doors moment for Nunes. But in the end it got Val to drop to her best weight class.
Both are aging now and their best years are behind them. More clearly already for Val I’d say, but I expect it to become clear for Nunes soon enough.
Nunes got stopped by Peña. There’s no room for interpretation in that result. Fighters regularly come in to fights with injuries or problems. Nunes had an off night. She dominated the rematch and probably dominates the rubber match. But what happened happened, and while yah Nunes probably has excuses - acting like you need to be a Val fan to take something away from Nunes for that loss is confusing. You are just irrational about all things Nunes. And I certainly don’t expect this post to change your mind - it’s for everyone else.