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		Another day, another millennial-bashing article from NYP, which is now raging against millennials who eschew modern life by living in vans. "These dirtbags sure are giving a lot of people like me road rage" (nypost.com)		166
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brantgoose

Smartest (20) Funniest (4)

2017-10-22 1:30:09 PM

Tune in, drop out, smoke it if you've got it, live in a van.

It's like they are Hippies or something. I guess Baba Cool and the Plugged-In generation are back in fashion with all things Eighties and Nineties.

Just as long as they leave Enya on the shelf, I don't give a flying road apple.

tjsands1118

Smartest (68) Funniest (1)

2017-10-22 1:37:50 PM

Maybe, just maybe if rent was affordable and wages were livable less millennials would live in vans. But if I'm being honest, living in vans has always had a few admirers throughout the generations, so, even prefect conditions, they'll still be people who like the idea, hence why they make camping vans.

JustToLetYouKnowFriend

Smartest (2) Funniest (1)

2017-10-22 1:45:29 PM

https://www.boredpanda.com/business-insider-titles-millenials-against-industries/

Bith Set Me Up

Smartest (33) Funniest (1)

2017-10-22 3:34:17 PM

tjsands1118: Maybe, just maybe if rent was affordable and wages were livable less millennials would live in vans. But if I'm being honest, living in vans has always had a few admirers throughout the generations, so, even prefect conditions, they'll still be people who like the idea, hence why they make camping vans.

"Not paying our workers a living wage isn't helping anybody, so let's not pay our workers a living wage." -- Most TV economic pundits not named Robert Reich

sirrerun

Smartest (0) Funniest (29)

2017-10-22 3:47:41 PM

tjsands1118: even prefect conditions

sirrerun

Smartest (7) Funniest (38)

2017-10-22 3:51:27 PM

Stupid Millennials

Raspil

Smartest (3) Funniest (14)

2017-10-22 4:04:53 PM

I thought Andy Rooney died

Ringshadow

Smartest (3) Funniest (6)

2017-10-22 4:06:54 PM

A 35 year old isn't a millennial, that's a Xennial, that best.

/Xennial
//34

uber humper

Smartest (0) Funniest (10)

2017-10-22 4:07:34 PM

sirrerun: [img.fark.net image 850x575]
Stupid Millennials

Come on, man. They don't look like they are 1000 years old

Bith Set Me Up

Smartest (7) Funniest (1)

2017-10-22 4:08:38 PM

Ringshadow: A 35 year old isn't a millennial, that's a Xennial, that best.

/Xennial
//34

Millennials are people born between 1982 to 1994, i.e. if you became a young adult or came of age with George W. Bush's administration, you're a Millennial.

/29

HighOnCraic

Smartest (8) Funniest (24)

2017-10-22 4:10:09 PM

Down by the river?

uber humper

Smartest (11) Funniest (1)

2017-10-22 4:10:17 PM

Ringshadow: A 35 year old isn't a millennial, that's a Xennial, that best.

/Xennial
//34

And when you get to be 35 you become an individual.

/If someone still buys their personality off of the generational stereotype rack at thirty-five, they have problems.

Markoff_Cheney

Smartest (6) Funniest (6)

2017-10-22 4:10:36 PM

Ringshadow: A 35 year old isn't a millennial, that's a Xennial, that best.

/Xennial
//34

Yeah we kinda got screwed on the generation thing. Not gen x, not millennials, we just pretty much suck shiat.
Also, some Boomer asshole is jacking off hard to these two goddamned filthy millennial greens, eat shiat gramps.

Glitchwerks

Smartest (12) Funniest (4)

2017-10-22 4:10:49 PM

brantgoose: Just as long as they leave Enya on the shelf, I don't give a flying road apple.

You best not be dissin' Enya.

lawboy87

Smartest (22) Funniest (0)

2017-10-22 4:11:51 PM

Pretentious? Douchebag?

It strikes me that the guy who wrote this screed is the definition of both.

How dare people not live up to the standards he has set for them!

The crazy thing is that I know a few retirees, who probably have more in their bank accounts than this douche will ever make who live out of their RV's as they travel the country and enjoying seeing the sights while they still can and are physically able to hike, swim and otherwise make the most out of life. (And when I say "retirees" I'm talking about a few people who sold their start-ups before age 35 and walked away with millions upon millions in the bank.

Bermuda59

Smartest (1) Funniest (4)

2017-10-22 4:13:02 PM

Ringshadow: A 35 year old isn't a millennial, that's a Xennial, that best.

/Xennial
//34

It's a bug hunt.

Ringshadow

Smartest (2) Funniest (6)

2017-10-22 4:14:11 PM

Bith Set Me Up: Millennials are people born between 1982 to 1994, i.e. if you became a young adult or came of age with George W. Bush's administration, you're a Millennial.

/29

Negative. 77 to 83 is Xennial.

FlyPanAm

Smartest (0) Funniest (3)

2017-10-22 4:19:08 PM

sirrerun: tjsands1118: even prefect conditions

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I wonder which one is the "Alabama" of Japan?

UsikFark

Smartest (4) Funniest (1)

2017-10-22 4:19:34 PM

Some of those van people (the ones on instagram) have sponsors. It's a bit like NASCAR. Life in a van really can be that simple if someone's covering expenses and all you have to worry about is presentation, not necessarily practicality or the unforeseen.

TheBigJerk

Smartest (6) Funniest (0)

2017-10-22 4:19:57 PM

Ringshadow: Bith Set Me Up: Millennials are people born between 1982 to 1994, i.e. if you became a young adult or came of age with George W. Bush's administration, you're a Millennial.

/29

Negative. 77 to 83 is Xennial.

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Or "generation Y", or any other made-up "I'm not with them!" split.

Millennials Dont Exist! Adam Conover at Deep Shift

CoysOdie

Smartest (2) Funniest (6)

2017-10-22 4:20:43 PM

And now we have generation Snowflake.

hubiestubert

Smartest (14) Funniest (4)

2017-10-22 4:21:59 PM

Sounds like Mister Manny was just looking for a reason to justify being pissed off all the time. I suspect that he finds a LOT of people who just "grind his gears"...

SwiftFox

Smartest (11) Funniest (0)

2017-10-22 4:23:55 PM

When you're really, really jealous you have difficulty hiding it when writing about what you can't have

Alebak

Smartest (16) Funniest (0)

2017-10-22 4:26:19 PM

Another day, another old person feeling the reaper close in writing another article about the young people

DannyBrandt

Smartest (8) Funniest (9)

2017-10-22 4:28:21 PM

"I didn't even get laid until I was 24. Young people suck!"

Gramma

Smartest (6) Funniest (0)

2017-10-22 4:28:41 PM

I lived in a van for a couple weeks one summer in the 70s. It was supposed to be a camping trip, but some terrible thunderstorms on day-2 tore my tent to shreds. Still, had a lot of fun swimming and fishing in the St. Clair River.
It was great for a couple weeks, but I can't imagine living that way unless I had no alternative.

abhorrent1

Smartest (9) Funniest (0)

2017-10-22 4:29:11 PM

That doesn't sound too bad to me. Selling my house, emptying my retirement accounts, buying a decent RV and traveling the country like it would be fun.

grumpfuff

Smartest (1) Funniest (0)

2017-10-22 4:29:23 PM

Ringshadow: A 35 year old isn't a millennial, that's a Xennial, that best.

/Xennial
//34

So apparently, even though I fit the description of an Xennial they gave, I don't count because I was born after 1983.

Sean VasDeferens

Smartest (13) Funniest (0)

2017-10-22 4:30:30 PM

The reporter sounds very bitter, angry, and jealous.

I'm about to hit 50 and have a sizable nest egg. I've been looking at hitting the road in a stealth camper (converted box truck) while still consulting on the side. Why save up all of your money only to retire in your late sixties and then only have 10 years to enjoy it, if you're even that lucky.

docilej

Smartest (0) Funniest (1)

2017-10-22 4:31:41 PM

I have a NY millennial for ya... 18 yo Carlos Pereyra Basista. Dude doesn't know how drive or use a condom !

TwilightZone

Smartest (21) Funniest (1)

2017-10-22 4:32:48 PM

How dare those young punks not work dead end jobs for less than a living page while not over paying rent to a slumlord for some flea ridden crap apartment and living on ramen and beans so I can feel smugly superior to them! God, what an ass.

TheBigJerk

Smartest (14) Funniest (0)

2017-10-22 4:33:22 PM

Sean VasDeferens: The reporter sounds very bitter, angry, and jealous.

I'm about to hit 50 and have a sizable nest egg. I've been looking at hitting the road in a stealth camper (converted box truck) while still consulting on the side. Why save up all of your money only to retire in your late sixties and then only have 10 years to enjoy it, if you're even that lucky.

You're going to retire?

Us millennials don't make enough for that.

eiger

Smartest (17) Funniest (0)

2017-10-22 4:33:39 PM

A lot of people in this world need to spend a lot less time worrying about other people's innocuous hobbies.

Gramma

Smartest (2) Funniest (5)

2017-10-22 4:33:41 PM

UsikFark: Some of those van people (the ones on instagram) have sponsors. It's a bit like NASCAR. Life in a van really can be that simple if someone's covering expenses and all you have to worry about is presentation, not necessarily practicality or the unforeseen.

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The van I camped in looked more like the 'free candy' van than the vans in those pictures.

Silverstaff

Smartest (8) Funniest (1)

2017-10-22 4:34:47 PM

Ringshadow: A 35 year old isn't a millennial, that's a Xennial, that best.

/Xennial
//34

No, the defining line for a Millennial usually drawn at being born from 1980 on, while some firms like MetLife and Nielsen define the starting line at 1977.

The oldest Millennials are anywhere from 37 to 40 this year, depending on where the line is drawn.

Yeah, when people are griping about "Millennials" what they mean are "People who haven't reached middle age yet".

Sean VasDeferens

Smartest (0) Funniest (1)

2017-10-22 4:36:23 PM

TheBigJerk: Sean VasDeferens: The reporter sounds very bitter, angry, and jealous.

I'm about to hit 50 and have a sizable nest egg. I've been looking at hitting the road in a stealth camper (converted box truck) while still consulting on the side. Why save up all of your money only to retire in your late sixties and then only have 10 years to enjoy it, if you're even that lucky.

You're going to retire?

Us millennials don't make enough for that.

In the words of that venerable Luch van Pelt, "real estate"!

Sean VasDeferens

Smartest (0) Funniest (1)

2017-10-22 4:37:11 PM

Sean VasDeferens: TheBigJerk: Sean VasDeferens: The reporter sounds very bitter, angry, and jealous.

I'm about to hit 50 and have a sizable nest egg. I've been looking at hitting the road in a stealth camper (converted box truck) while still consulting on the side. Why save up all of your money only to retire in your late sixties and then only have 10 years to enjoy it, if you're even that lucky.

You're going to retire?

Us millennials don't make enough for that.

In the words of that venerable Luch van Pelt, "real estate"!

Ugh, Lucy van Pelt. It worked for President Trump too.

TwilightZone

Smartest (10) Funniest (1)

2017-10-22 4:37:26 PM

Silverstaff: Ringshadow: A 35 year old isn't a millennial, that's a Xennial, that best.

/Xennial
//34

No, the defining line for a Millennial usually drawn at being born from 1980 on, while some firms like MetLife and Nielsen define the starting line at 1977.

The oldest Millennials are anywhere from 37 to 40 this year, depending on where the line is drawn.

Yeah, when people are griping about "Millennials" what they mean are "People who haven't reached middle age yet".

As Seinfeld said (and I paraphrase): How many people do you know that live to be 120? Thirty-five is middle age.

grumpfuff

Smartest (5) Funniest (1)

2017-10-22 4:38:03 PM

And I can find other groups that draw the line for being a Millennial at 1990.

/maybe the idea of trying to shove everyone into a convenient category based on the year they were born isn't a good one

Vampire Lake

Smartest (8) Funniest (1)

2017-10-22 4:38:19 PM

I'm 37 (38 in two months). No way in hell am I a millennial.

I think Xennial is a dumb word but I do count myself as one of the micro generation of the late 70s to early 80s.

zepillin

Smartest (3) Funniest (0)

2017-10-22 4:38:48 PM

Why be an office slave ~~when you can be a social-media star~~?

FTFM

TwilightZone

Smartest (1) Funniest (0)

2017-10-22 4:39:17 PM

TwilightZone: How dare those young punks not work dead end jobs for less than a living page while not over paying rent to a slumlord for some flea ridden crap apartment and living on ramen and beans so I can feel smugly superior to them! God, what an ass.

living wageFTFM

Rapmaster2000

Smartest (9) Funniest (1)

2017-10-22 4:39:48 PM

The year in which you were born provides you with no unique and precious qualities. I'm talking to you, gramps.

Sean VasDeferens

Smartest (1) Funniest (0)

2017-10-22 4:40:04 PM

My wife and I can both work remotely. I'm considering buying a beach house. Live in the house eight months per year, rent it out the other four while living/working on the road.

big pig peaches

Smartest (2) Funniest (7)

2017-10-22 4:42:04 PM

As a Gen-Xer, I really don't care.

darthstormer

Smartest (10) Funniest (0)

2017-10-22 4:44:22 PM

Yup, a handful of people's activity = the greatest aspiration for an entire generation.

Silverstaff

Smartest (2) Funniest (2)

2017-10-22 4:47:59 PM

TwilightZone: As Seinfeld said (and I paraphrase): How many people do you know that live to be 120? Thirty-five is middle age.

Dictionary definition is 45 to 64 according to Websters's: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/middle%20age

Brittanica considers it starting at about 40: https://www.britannica.com/science/middle-age

The BBC reports that current surveys of the UK population indicate that the current popular opinion there is that Middle Age doesn't start until 55: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-19622330

CBS reports that the age that studies at Stanford, which have attempted to define "Middle Age" based on life expectancy and mortality rates indicate that the current line would be at about 55. . .to be at about the same relative point in longevity someone would be at around age 45 a century ago (i.e. middle age is later based on longer lifespans): https://www.cbsnews.com/news/what-age-is-considered-old-nowadays/

So, there's plenty to say that someone in their 30's isn't middle aged.

/In my 30's
//Was actually pleasantly surprised to research this.
///Definitely not middle aged.

Vampire Lake

Smartest (13) Funniest (3)

2017-10-22 4:48:20 PM

Having read the article now, I think living in a van sounds uncomfortable and uninteresting. At the same time, the author is annoying and giving off a stop-liking-what-i-don't-like vibe.

So I'm going back to Halloween decorating.

DannyBrandt

Smartest (6) Funniest (2)

2017-10-22 4:48:35 PM

Just a heads up,

Your spouse of forty years is probably gonna have sex with someone you've been close with for years while they're shoveling you into the dirt.

Salmon

Smartest (5) Funniest (0)

2017-10-22 4:49:41 PM

We spend most of our summer dragging our trailer around from festival to festival and pretty much always discuss how we could try to make it our full time reality. Oh, how fun and romantic it would be to have such freedom and be debt free and the places we'd see and

And then when the weather sucks and we go home and do laundry and take a bath and eat from our gardens and realize oh yeah, this is why we don't live in our trailer full time.

It would be a tough gig to do full time without external storage and a home base of some sort and taking shiats in McDonald's bathrooms or leaned up against a tree gets old when it's your only choice.

And winter in a van or trailer sucks even if you have your heat well sorted, I'm sure it would be a lot easier where there isn't snow on the ground half the year.

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