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2017-08-16 8:35:07 PM  
No. Vegetarianism is fine but not for me. Veganism is unhealthy and weird.
 
2017-08-16 8:51:57 PM  

Voiceofreason01: No. Vegetarianism is fine but not for me. Veganism is unhealthy and weird.


Yours is weak like par-boiled veggies.
 
2017-08-16 8:53:47 PM  

AlwaysRightBoy: Voiceofreason01: No. Vegetarianism is fine but not for me. Veganism is unhealthy and weird.

Yours is weak like par-boiled veggies.


Don't challenge me boy. I have cheese farts and I'm not afraid to use them.
 
edmo [TotalFark] [OhFark]  
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2017-08-16 8:58:05 PM  
I have certainly noticed how much better I feel after a few weeks eating in Europe. That wears off a couple of weeks after returning home.
 
2017-08-16 9:10:51 PM  

Voiceofreason01: AlwaysRightBoy: Voiceofreason01: No. Vegetarianism is fine but not for me. Veganism is unhealthy and weird.

Yours is weak like par-boiled veggies.

Don't challenge me boy. I have cheese farts and I'm not afraid to use them.


last time I was taking on cheese farts was Normandy where the camerbert was triple cream .
No challenge here .. just liking your use of bait
 
2017-08-16 11:36:07 PM  
At the end of the documentary, it promotes a 30-day vegan challenge. I'd heard enough. I was ready. Sign me up for the free emails!

Well there's your problem you moron. You seem to be in the same boat as the people you're complaining about: you went vegan and you WANTED PEOPLE TO KNOW ABOUT IT.
 
IP  
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2017-08-16 11:57:11 PM  
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2017-08-17 12:04:48 AM  
One adjective too many. Just wackos.
/Some of the unhealthiest looking people I've ever seen were servers in a vegan restaurant.
//Well, except for some people with late stage AIDS, I guess.
 
2017-08-17 12:08:53 AM  
Build a greenhouse, grow seeds under lights and  harvest a crop that sustains.
 
stuffy  
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2017-08-17 12:21:35 AM  
unlikely.
 
2017-08-17 12:50:56 AM  
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claudius [TotalFark] [OhFark]  
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2017-08-17 1:02:32 AM  
FTFA: let me feel you in real quick
Calls himself an editor? Where is this article going? It wanders. It a full of cliches. it's sprinkled with photos which don't support his writing.   It ends on a sharp turn having nothing to do with his  supposed main points. And I don't believe vegan cheese is the worst thing to  pass his lips.  not even suitable for a fifth grade report.

/yes I'm in a mood
 
2017-08-17 1:13:04 AM  
I've never had a good Vegan meal.   I've had some excellent Vegetarian dishes from Indian cuisine.   Veggie burgers ain't the same.   Vegan cheese and tofu is horrible.   Every tolerable mushroom dish involves dairy.  All the best salad dressings are buttermilk based or contain egg  emulsions.    Just about every food can be improved with either bacon or whipped cream, except the the exceptional melons which work with both (Prosciutto is in the bacon food group)
 
Flaumig  
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2017-08-17 1:19:30 AM  
Vegans will tell you that eating vegan is healthy.  In reality, a vegan diet cannot provide vitamin B12 (B12 from plant sources is not in a form digestable by humans) and is very much lacking in taurine, carnitine, calcium, and Vitamin D.  If you eat vegan, you have to take supplements to get those missing or insufficient nutrients.  Pretty much by definition if you have to supplement your diet from non-food sources in order to get sufficient necessary nutrients, it's not a healthy diet.

Vegans will tell you that anyone can be vegan.  In reality, some of the staples of the vegan diet, soy, wheat, peanuts, and tree nuts, are among the most common food allergies.  Tens, if not hundreds of millions of people around the world would get sick or die on a vegan diet.

Vegans will tell you that veganism is the most environmentally sustainable diet.  In reality, it's not even close.

Vegans will tell you that veganism is cruelty free.  In reality, much of the workforce that provides food for the vegan diet is mistreated and underpaid.  People in South America are starving because most of their primary crop, Quinoa, is being exported to the US.  What little that is left behind is priced so exorbitantly that many cannot afford it.  Rainforests in Mexico are being destroyed to make space for growing avocados to keep up with the increased demand.

Veganism is bullshiat, and vegans are all either charlatans or gullible fools.
 
bborchar  
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2017-08-17 1:22:41 AM  
I could easily be a vegetarian.  Truthfully, I don't eat much meat anyway.  But veganism makes no sense...I'm not sure how a chicken suffers by collecting their eggs.  And a better way to promote responsible farming is to support the farmers who take care of their animals and use humane practices rather than giving up on eggs altogether.  We buy eggs from my mom- she has a tiny flock made up of her favorite layers and she babies those birds.  She also sells quite a few eggs each week.  All the money she makes goes to giving them the best food.  But no, it's apparently better to just eat a very difficult diet that most people give up very quickly.
 
IP  
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2017-08-17 1:26:00 AM  

Flaumig: Vegans will tell you that anyone can be vegan.  In reality, some of the staples of the vegan diet, soy, wheat, peanuts, and tree nuts, are among the most common food allergies.  Tens, if not hundreds of millions of people around the world would get sick or die on a vegan diet.


This right here.  If folks in the poorer parts of the world tried it they'd be malnourished.  Veganism is truly first world privilege.  No one else can afford it.
 
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2017-08-17 1:29:36 AM  
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IP  
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2017-08-17 1:31:06 AM  

Uncontrolled_Jibe:  I've had some excellent Vegetarian dishes from Indian cuisine.


I'm a committed omnivore but if you told me I had to go vegetarian Indian veg dishes would be on my plate every night.  The best.
 
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2017-08-17 1:32:07 AM  
This is up there with the Paleo diet
 
IamAwake  
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2017-08-17 1:39:32 AM  
the movement is under the control of someone?  There's a movement?  I thought it was just some people eating a certain way. Is there an official tshirt or anything?  Dues, that sort of thing?
 
IamAwake  
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2017-08-17 1:40:04 AM  

IP: Uncontrolled_Jibe:  I've had some excellent Vegetarian dishes from Indian cuisine.

I'm a committed omnivore but if you told me I had to go vegetarian Indian veg dishes would be on my plate every night.  The best.


Ethiopian.  So much the win.
 
IP  
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2017-08-17 1:41:26 AM  

IamAwake: IP: Uncontrolled_Jibe:  I've had some excellent Vegetarian dishes from Indian cuisine.

I'm a committed omnivore but if you told me I had to go vegetarian Indian veg dishes would be on my plate every night.  The best.

Ethiopian.  So much the win.


Yes!  Just not as available unfortunately.
 
2017-08-17 2:11:28 AM  

IamAwake: IP: Uncontrolled_Jibe:  I've had some excellent Vegetarian dishes from Indian cuisine.

I'm a committed omnivore but if you told me I had to go vegetarian Indian veg dishes would be on my plate every night.  The best.

Ethiopian.  So much the win.


Good point, but too much temptation.  I could walk by the Tandouri Chicken to get to the Palak Paneer, but the thought of passing up the Doro Wat Chicken is abominable.   Thanks though.  I'm in Seattle for a conference and it's available here.
 
IamAwake  
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2017-08-17 2:25:11 AM  

Uncontrolled_Jibe: IamAwake: IP: Uncontrolled_Jibe:  I've had some excellent Vegetarian dishes from Indian cuisine.

I'm a committed omnivore but if you told me I had to go vegetarian Indian veg dishes would be on my plate every night.  The best.

Ethiopian.  So much the win.

Good point, but too much temptation.  I could walk by the Tandouri Chicken to get to the Palak Paneer, but the thought of passing up the Doro Wat Chicken is abominable.   Thanks though.  I'm in Seattle for a conference and it's available here.


There's an entire area of town called Little Ethiopia in LA, but some of the best Ethiopian I've ever had is in San Diego (place called muzitas).  I pity any city that doesn't have diverse options.
 
CoysOdie  
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2017-08-17 3:49:31 AM  
You can have my meat when you can pry it out of my...........
 
2017-08-17 4:29:20 AM  
People who take every opportunity to talk about something are weird fanatics.  Ric Romero reports.

Not pictured: those whose diet is their own business.

/vegan cheese is terrible though
//and veganism is usually practiced by priviliged
///not vegan, cheese is too awesome
 
dready zim  
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2017-08-17 4:39:08 AM  
Being childless I have earned carbon credits so that myself and ten of you can drive a car, eat meat, and take two transatlantic return flights and we all will still be slightly less polluting than a carless, non-flying, vegan with a single child.

But you cannot have any kids. If you have kids then you cannot take part in my alt carbon-credit scheme. If you have kids then even being vegan will not offset that (by a factor of over 50)

I think it is a fair trade, but you have to choose. Either have kids and destroy the planet, or eat meat and have fun and save the planet.

I have made my choice. I'm saving the planet.

Don't get me wrong, there are delicious vegetarian and vegan dishes and I will eat them. But I will also go and eat a Mephistopheles burger from the Hobgoblin pub too (big home made burger, cheese, piri-piri sauce, jalapeños, fries and piri-piri mayo dip, I get extra fresh red chili peppers)

In fact I think I will do that today. I will drive there.
 
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2017-08-17 4:39:39 AM  

rcain: This thread needs more cheeseburgers

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dready zim  
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2017-08-17 4:39:44 AM  

CoysOdie: You can have my meat when you can pry it out of my...........


hands made from meat?
 
CoysOdie  
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2017-08-17 5:03:13 AM  

dready zim: CoysOdie: You can have my meat when you can pry it out of my...........

hands made from meat?


You're getting warmer..........
 
dready zim  
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2017-08-17 5:25:28 AM  

CoysOdie: dready zim: CoysOdie: You can have my meat when you can pry it out of my...........

hands made from meat?

You're getting warmer..........


Hands made from warm meat?
 
2017-08-17 5:42:57 AM  

bborchar: But veganism makes no sense...I'm not sure how a chicken suffers by collecting their eggs.


Or how sheep are harmed by collecting their wool. It's not as though they're being harvested and skinned.  They sort of need to be sheared, and the whole industry depends on keeping them alive & healthy enough to continue growing more wool.
 
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2017-08-17 5:53:55 AM  

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drxym  
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2017-08-17 6:10:41 AM  
A lot more people would eat vegetarian dishes if they were normalised as nice things to eat in their own right instead of "eat this or you are a monster". Even if people chose the vegetarian option 10% more often than otherwise it would still have an impact.

Personally I enjoy eating meat but I like the odd veggie meal too as well as veggie restaurants. It's variety and experience.

Vegan food, perhaps not so much. That's a bridge too far really.
 
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2017-08-17 6:53:02 AM  

IamAwake: the movement is under the control of someone?  There's a movement?  I thought it was just some people eating a certain way. Is there an official tshirt or anything?  Dues, that sort of thing?


Yes, they even have their own vegan pope who commands them with the divine benedictions of vegan jesus. There are, of course, some independent vegan groups, like the Vegan Front of Judea (splitters), but the mainstream movement is very cohesive.
 
2017-08-17 7:40:35 AM  
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I can appreciate vegetarian but vegan is just a step too far
 
2017-08-17 7:45:04 AM  

edmo: I have certainly noticed how much better I feel after a few weeks eating in Europe. That wears off a couple of weeks after returning home.


I think she was wrong about it being the meat that made her sick.  If she looked at the ingredients in her pasta, she would likely find that the American pasta used a lot less butter and diary in its production, and substituted sugar, sugar, and more sugar.  Or rather corn syrup, which is the same thing as sugar, but is used as a butter substitute in order to make everything "less fattening".  The end result is the food has less fat in it, but your belly has more.
 
2017-08-17 8:14:24 AM  
I think a lot of self-proclaimed carnivores would be surprised how much better vegetables taste once you've gone vegetarian for a couple of weeks and get used to them. (I sure was.) Your taste buds change and vegetables that once seemed like a side dish become your favorite entree.

The problem I've always had with vegans is the sanctimony. If you want to go meatless, do it for yourself, your health, your conscience, or whatever other impetus you need. Don't do it for political reasons or to make some far left nut job happy. It's not worth it, and since we live in a meat eating world, it becomes a burden.
 
2017-08-17 8:36:37 AM  

winedrinkingman: edmo: I have certainly noticed how much better I feel after a few weeks eating in Europe. That wears off a couple of weeks after returning home.

I think she was wrong about it being the meat that made her sick.  If she looked at the ingredients in her pasta, she would likely find that the American pasta used a lot less butter and diary in its production, and substituted sugar, sugar, and more sugar.  Or rather corn syrup, which is the same thing as sugar, but is used as a butter substitute in order to make everything "less fattening".  The end result is the food has less fat in it, but your belly has more.


This!
Not to say the Canadian diet is THAT different, but we just got back from a vacation in South Carolina, and noticed that everything that tasted different from the Canadian versions had a ton more sugar and/or salt in it. I felt like my mouth had a permanent film on it, and I always felt a bit lethargic. Got home, and within a week, I was back to normal.

Hummus does not need 26g of sugar per tablespoon.... Why does it even have any at all?
 
2017-08-17 8:38:49 AM  

Flaumig: Vegans will tell you that eating vegan is healthy.  In reality, a vegan diet cannot provide vitamin B12 (B12 from plant sources is not in a form digestable by humans) and is very much lacking in taurine, carnitine, calcium, and Vitamin D.  If you eat vegan, you have to take supplements to get those missing or insufficient nutrients.  Pretty much by definition if you have to supplement your diet from non-food sources in order to get sufficient necessary nutrients, it's not a healthy diet.


Arguing against dietary supplements is really weak considering the widespread deficiencies in non-vegan populations. "Oh you take an iron pill? Your diet isn't healthy!" Give me a break.

There is no "B12 from plant sources". There's pseudo-B12, which the name gives away as not being B12. All B12 is produced by bacteria. Food animals are given B12 injections, and a good percent of non-vegans are still lacking and should supplement.

There's no dietary requirement for taurine or carnitine. Calcium is readily available from plant sources. D needs to be supplemented for a large portion of the general population, vegan and non-vegan alike.

None of it is an argument against veganism. A vegan diet could be lacking in dozens of nutrients and require a daily horse pill and still be the right thing to do. Trying to make an argument that one diet is superior than another on the basis of fortification/supplementation when they get to the same place regardless is anti-science and a roundabout appeal to nature.

Vegans will tell you that anyone can be vegan.  In reality, some of the staples of the vegan diet, soy, wheat, peanuts, and tree nuts, are among the most common food allergies.  Tens, if not hundreds of millions of people around the world would get sick or die on a vegan diet.

Right. Because a vegan absolutely has to have soy. Or peanuts, or wheat, etc. No one is getting sick or dying because they can't have peanuts. Even an extreme fringe case of someone allergic to every plant food would say absolutely nothing about everyone else who gets on fine.

Vegans will tell you that veganism is the most environmentally sustainable diet.  In reality, it's not even close.

You actually linked to a source that didn't completely misrepresent the study and still managed to get it wrong. The study is about how to maximize food output. To do so, you can have grazing animals on land that doesn't support human food crops very well. That's it. There is no need to do so. And it's glaringly obvious that growing food crops directly instead of passing them through food animals would reduce total land requirements for food.

Vegans will tell you that veganism is cruelty free.  In reality, much of the workforce that provides food for the vegan diet is mistreated and underpaid.  People in South America are starving because most of their primary crop, Quinoa, is being exported to the US.  What little that is left behind is priced so exorbitantly that many cannot afford it.  Rainforests in Mexico are being destroyed to make space for growing avocados to keep up with the increased demand.

What, you don't eat plants? You gave two examples of foods people eat, and wrote some nonsense about quinoa. Stop repeating sensationalist bullshiat from British tabloids. Land is being cleared for avocados because, get this, people eat them. Here's an idea though, lets stop clear cutting for cattle and just farking grow avocados on a fraction of that land.

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/dont-worry-eating-quinoa-helps-peruvian-farmers-180958639/

Veganism is bullshiat, and vegans are all either charlatans or gullible fools.

Add a few more bullshiat items to your list and you'd be on your way to a full on gallop. It's disappointing people have smarted your post, but maybe they'll have a second thought now, look up some credible sources, and not just believe bullshiat that conforms to their bias.
 
OldJames  
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2017-08-17 8:43:41 AM  
I am all for other people doing it so the price of my meat goes down, but it ain't for me
 
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2017-08-17 8:44:53 AM  

Voiceofreason01: No. Vegetarianism is fine but not for me. Veganism is unhealthy and weird.


I'm an omnivore.  But yes, a vegetarian diet is fairly simple to stick with, is easy to prepare.  A vegan diet is like a weird exercise in memorization and odd substitutions.

I've cut my meat intake by about 75% in the last ten years.  Mostly because it helps me with portion control,  Meat is too damned tasty, and it's all too easy to eat a plate of it, which isn't overly nutritious for the average human.
 
2017-08-17 8:48:27 AM  

secularsage: I think a lot of self-proclaimed carnivores would be surprised how much better vegetables taste once you've gone vegetarian for a couple of weeks and get used to them. (I sure was.) Your taste buds change and vegetables that once seemed like a side dish become your favorite entree.

The problem I've always had with vegans is the sanctimony. If you want to go meatless, do it for yourself, your health, your conscience, or whatever other impetus you need. Don't do it for political reasons or to make some far left nut job happy. It's not worth it, and since we live in a meat eating world, it becomes a burden.


I can't purport to speak on behalf of "self-proclaimed carnivores" or whatnot, but I think eschewing meat altogether is every bit as silly as eschewing fruits/vegetables.

Veganism ventures beyond mere silliness and dives headlong into retarded. I like most fruits and vegetables, but they pretty much always suck when they pretend to be anything other than what they are.

If you're honestly so traumatised and disgusted by the very idea of eating "dead animal flesh"that you gag and vomit at the sight or smell of it, then why do people go to so much effort to make so many of the "vegan alternatives/options" masquerade as meat> That's the very thing that causes vegans uncontrollable nausea and emotional-distress? Why does "vegan bacon" exist? Or "vegan chicken-nuggets"? Oh, that's right, because you're full of shiat and you're really just a self-absorbed melodramatic twat.

And that's on top of the whole "I must profess to the world my dietary choices so they can recognise my virtue" thing.

Then you've got the folks who decide they're going to out-smug and out-retarded even the vegans by calling themselves "fruititarian" or somesuch tripe, insist that it's morally/ethically wrong to kill even a plant, and that you should only take the parts of the plant that the plant can survive to replace. Which automatically excludes any root-vegetables, and a whole lot of others.
 
2017-08-17 9:03:43 AM  
Why do people think you absolutely must go whole hog or do nothing?  Even having a few meatless/vegan days a week is helpful for the planet and yourself.  I love meats and still enjoy them but one or two weeknights I eat something lighter and meatless.  You don't even need to go as far as the "no animal products AT ALL" aspect of the vegan diet, just reducing meat consumption is healthy and an overall good.  Even continuing to eat meat but consuming offal/less prime cuts is extremely helpful since most Americans don't eat many cuts outside the main steaks (T bone, fillet, etc) and ground beef.
 
2017-08-17 9:12:31 AM  
That "What the Health" documentary is loaded with bs and misleading information. https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2017/7/25/16018658/what-the-health-documentary-review-vegan-diet
 
2017-08-17 9:18:44 AM  

The Southern Logic Company: Why do people think you absolutely must go whole hog or do nothing?  Even having a few meatless/vegan days a week is helpful for the planet and yourself.  I love meats and still enjoy them but one or two weeknights I eat something lighter and meatless.  You don't even need to go as far as the "no animal products AT ALL" aspect of the vegan diet, just reducing meat consumption is healthy and an overall good.  Even continuing to eat meat but consuming offal/less prime cuts is extremely helpful since most Americans don't eat many cuts outside the main steaks (T bone, fillet, etc) and ground beef.


I agree with that. A big shift for me was when we moved away from Meat/Veg/Potato or Rice, other than when pasta. As soon as that shift was over, we started finding lots of great meals. Sure, it may seem strange to have 10$ of a decent cheese in a dish, but if I think of it as the "meat", the price makes perfect sense to me. In the end, we probably are low meat or meatless about half the time, and thats just fine. But we never try to fake out a dish to make it less meat-based - we eat the meals the way they make sense, and if that happens to be meatless, thats ok too
 
2017-08-17 9:24:43 AM  

Photoshop This: That "What the Health" documentary is loaded with bs and misleading information. https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2017/7/25/16018658/what-the-health-documentary-review-vegan-diet


It sure is.

https://www.vegan.com/posts/vegan-dietitian-review-what-the-health/
 
2017-08-17 9:27:01 AM  
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2017-08-17 9:32:32 AM  

Voiceofreason01: AlwaysRightBoy: Voiceofreason01: No. Vegetarianism is fine but not for me. Veganism is unhealthy and weird.

Yours is weak like par-boiled veggies.

Don't challenge me boy. I have cheese farts and I'm not afraid to use them.


No, don't challenge cabbage farts to a fart fight. You will lose badly.  Cabbage farts are the worst.
 
senoy  
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2017-08-17 9:33:52 AM  
The problem with Veganism and many of those types of diets is that they are 'hard line in sand' black and white affairs. "Thou shalt never have a hamburger.' They take on the mantle of policing themselves and others from forbidden delights. It certainly does start to take on the trappings of religion.

A sensible diet is 'Eat less meat.' That way, you can go to a friend's cook-out and not have to dourly sit in the corner with the tofu burger you brought from home lest  you offend the vegan gods or even worse be someone that has to read the labels on everything lest the shells of insects be found in your food. Even being a 'pescatarian' is ridiculous. Why can't you be someone who mostly eats seafood? Why label it and make it part of your identity? I know that loss of religion in the west has caused us to latch on to some pretty stupid stuff in the name of identity, but geeze people, is 'I only eat salads.' really where you want to hang your hat?
 
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