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ceejayoz

Smartest (73) Funniest (2)

2017-06-26 12:09:18 PM

The first executive order was issued one week into his term, and sought to bar people from Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, and Yemen from entering the US for 90 days and all refugees for 120 days.

Given it's 150 days since the ban, why'd SCOTUS see the need to lift the stays prior to arguments? We've had no terror attacks and it was supposed to be a very short ban "while we figure out what's going on".

I Have A Bo Burnham GIF For That

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2017-06-26 12:09:23 PM

Elliot8654

Smartest (41) Funniest (3)

2017-06-26 12:09:25 PM

Gee, wonder Why? It's not like this got held until Trump got to put his own choice of judge on there. No shadiness at all.

Aar1012

Smartest (60) Funniest (3)

2017-06-26 12:09:42 PM

We're on the wrong side of history

meanmutton

Smartest (16) Funniest (2)

2017-06-26 12:09:54 PM

So, the ban can only apply to non-citizens who have absolutely no relationship with an entity in the US? That doesn't sound like much of a "partial victory" for Trump.

invictus2

Smartest (1) Funniest (15)

2017-06-26 12:10:22 PM

Albert911emt

Smartest (1) Funniest (9)

2017-06-26 12:10:34 PM

Yo dog, I heard you like bans, so we banned the banning of your ban.

\bannination!

foo monkey

Smartest (2) Funniest (28)

2017-06-26 12:10:39 PM

Walker

Smartest (63) Funniest (1)

2017-06-26 12:10:44 PM

will hear oral arguments on the case this fall.

Ummm it's a 90-day ban.
By the time they hear it it will be over.

"We rule the ban unconstitutional!"
"Ummm it's over now"
"Oh.....nevermind"

Also 15 of the 19 9/11 hijackers came from Saudi Arabia but no travel ban for that country?

Elliot8654

Smartest (28) Funniest (2)

2017-06-26 12:10:58 PM

meanmutton: So, the ban can only apply to non-citizens who have absolutely no relationship with an entity in the US? That doesn't sound like much of a "partial victory" for Trump.

AKA, all this ban now does is damage the tourism industry.

markie_farkie

Smartest (9) Funniest (1)

2017-06-26 12:11:17 PM

He's probably jizzing all over the Resolute Desk now, claiming this is some sort of major victory.

Mudd's woman

Smartest (3) Funniest (5)

2017-06-26 12:11:35 PM

Elliot8654: Gee, wonder Why? It's not like this got held until Trump got to put his own choice of judge on there. No shadiness at all.

You got that right.

This is my shocked face.

DoughyGuy

Smartest (18) Funniest (2)

2017-06-26 12:12:35 PM

I know it's only temporary, until next fall supposedly when they'll go over the whole case. But thanks for giving The Angry Orange another victory he can misguidedly gloat about to his followers and the press. Appreciate it...

DontMakeMeComeBackThere

Smartest (24) Funniest (1)

2017-06-26 12:14:10 PM

Walker: will hear oral arguments on the case this fall.

Ummm it's a 90-day ban.
By the time they hear it it will be over.

"We rule the ban unconstitutional!"
"Ummm it's over now"
"Oh.....nevermind"

Also 15 of the 19 9/11 hijackers came from Saudi Arabia but no travel ban for that country?

You believed that 90-day part? You're adorable.

Mindlock

Smartest (21) Funniest (2)

2017-06-26 12:14:15 PM

You do realize that on day 89 it's just going to get a 90 day extension over and over again right?

NewportBarGuy

Smartest (30) Funniest (3)

2017-06-26 12:14:29 PM

It's not about the number of days cited, it's about the Constitutionality of the Executive Order.

I'm not a lawyer...

This f*cking blows. They are going to give it to him in the Fall and it's a horrible precedent.

Thank you Mitch McConnell, you f*cking asshole.

mr lawson

Smartest (5) Funniest (2)

2017-06-26 12:14:39 PM

YEA!
Fewer religious fuddies coming to America.

Cataholic

Smartest (2) Funniest (0)

2017-06-26 12:15:32 PM

And in a few months, Norma McCorvey will have her baby anyway.

swahnhennessy

Smartest (4) Funniest (2)

2017-06-26 12:15:34 PM

I was unaware that the courts could do that - basically rewrite something to fit into a decision. What they were presented with was one thing, but they ruled on another of their own making.

hubiestubert

Smartest (36) Funniest (6)

2017-06-26 12:16:10 PM

Roughly translated: "You can have the 'ban', but muted and emasculated from the perspective of prohibiting people with actual relationships in the US, students, or people with valid business or possible business in the States, to give you 'time' to get your improved vetting procedures in place, and come this fall, you'd best show your work."

Which is to say, "People who aren't bright enough to give a good reason to come here are going to be excluded, but pretty much anyone who has four brain cells and a working notochord are coming in, you Orange Sh*tgibbon..."

Target Builder

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2017-06-26 12:16:26 PM

ceejayoz: The first executive order was issued one week into his term, and sought to bar people from Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, and Yemen from entering the US for 90 days and all refugees for 120 days.

Given it's 150 days since the ban, why'd SCOTUS see the need to lift the stays prior to arguments? We've had no terror attacks and it was supposed to be a very short ban "while we figure out what's going on".

Yeah. This.

You needed 90 days to come up with a plan? It's coming up for twice that now, what have you got?

DontMakeMeComeBackThere

Smartest (11) Funniest (1)

2017-06-26 12:16:37 PM

meanmutton: So, the ban can only apply to non-citizens who have absolutely no relationship with an entity in the US? That doesn't sound like much of a "partial victory" for Trump.

Depends on the morons in TSA - I see lots more impromptu "Are you a real computer programmer?" quizzes in our future when people show up reporting for new jobs.

most likely, this will be a complete shiat show, with ACLU lawsuits aplenty for overreaching TSA idiots.

Phineas

Smartest (9) Funniest (2)

2017-06-26 12:17:15 PM

Suck it, libs. SJW butthurt levels are now maximized, kek levels rise at proportionate rate.

Elliot8654

Smartest (21) Funniest (0)

2017-06-26 12:17:20 PM

mr lawson: YEA!
Fewer religious fuddies coming to America.

We are growing plenty of our own at home already, and they run for GOP seats.

Butterfinger

Smartest (3) Funniest (1)

2017-06-26 12:17:29 PM

I view this as a punt in the form of a decision. There are sooooo many appeals possible through the wording of this decision, that it's basically upheld to the benefit of every immigration lawyer in America.

Clarence Thomas stated this will lead to a flood of litigation.

Stupid non decision

Alebak

Smartest (5) Funniest (1)

2017-06-26 12:18:02 PM

The Trumpers will take this as proof that he's not a do nothing president, and generally continue to be insufferable, ignoring the whole "BEAT ISIS IN 100 DAYS" thing and the rest of the broken promises.

I expect his approval among the Right to spike in response

OtherLittleGuy

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2017-06-26 12:18:25 PM

Justices Clarence Thomas, Samuel A. Alito Jr. and Neil M. Gorsuch would have let the ban take effect as written and objected to what they called the court's "compromise."

BUT HER FARKING EMAILS!

themindiswatching

Smartest (1) Funniest (3)

2017-06-26 12:18:38 PM

Trump's still talking about Obamacare on Twitter. I guess no one told him yet.

mr lawson

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2017-06-26 12:19:24 PM

Elliot8654: We are growing plenty of our own at home already, and they run for GOP seats.

True.
/Atheist
//with that said:

Alebak

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2017-06-26 12:19:47 PM

Walker: Ummm it's a 90-day ban.

Patriot Act was supposed to be temporary too

12349876

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2017-06-26 12:20:12 PM

meanmutton: So, the ban can only apply to non-citizens who have absolutely no relationship with an entity in the US? That doesn't sound like much of a "partial victory" for Trump.

Sounds like tourists only to me

WayneKerr

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2017-06-26 12:20:53 PM

Phineas: Suck it, libs. SJW butthurt levels are now maximized, kek levels rise at proportionate rate.

Hi-five, bro. I am pulling out my pocket pussy for this one.

houginator

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2017-06-26 12:21:04 PM

Cataholic: Walker: will hear oral arguments on the case this fall.

Ummm it's a 90-day ban.
By the time they hear it it will be over.

"We rule the ban unconstitutional!"
"Ummm it's over now"
"Oh.....nevermind"

Also 15 of the 19 9/11 hijackers came from Saudi Arabia but no travel ban for that country?

And in a few months, Norma McCorvey will have her baby anyway.

McCorvey's baby was born long before Roe v. Wade made it anywhere near SCOTUS.

jshine

Smartest (7) Funniest (0)

2017-06-26 12:21:27 PM

Elliot8654: Gee, wonder Why? It's not like this got held until Trump got to put his own choice of judge on there. No shadiness at all.

It looks like the decision was basically 6-3. Gorsuch was in the minority, so without him it would have been 6-2 -- which still leads to the same ruling.

HumanWiki

Smartest (0) Funniest (4)

2017-06-26 12:21:33 PM

[SCOTUS] Yo dawg, we heard you like bans. So we banned your ban ban so you can ban while you ban bans.

carnifex2005

Smartest (16) Funniest (2)

2017-06-26 12:21:46 PM

Good for the Supreme Court for seeing some sense in this. Those lower court rulings were clearly judged on liberal ideology and not the law.

Phineas

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2017-06-26 12:22:22 PM

WayneKerr: Phineas: Suck it, libs. SJW butthurt levels are now maximized, kek levels rise at proportionate rate.

Hi-five, bro. I am pulling out my pocket pussy for this one.

Cool, cool. Sorry if i left a mess in there earlier.

ChrisDe

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2017-06-26 12:22:26 PM

Butterfinger: I view this as a punt in the form of a decision. There are sooooo many appeals possible through the wording of this decision, that it's basically upheld to the benefit of every immigration lawyer in America.

Clarence Thomas stated this will lead to a flood of litigation.

Stupid non decision

Verbally? Or in writing?

Carn

Smartest (9) Funniest (11)

2017-06-26 12:22:49 PM

Coming soon to a Republican congress near you:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, unless the established religion is a Christian one, and the prohibited one is those dirty muslims or some other wrong religion that Republicans deem unfit; or abridging the freedom of speech unless the intolerant left says something we don't like, or of the press, but liberals aren't allowed to be in the press because everyone knows they are mean; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble unless we don't want them to in which case we will have them shot, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances, which will of course be ignored, and those bringing the grievances will also be shot as agitators."

carnifex2005

Smartest (8) Funniest (1)

2017-06-26 12:23:15 PM

Also, Judge Kennedy is now rumored to be retiring soon, so that would be another that Trump will be putting on the court. All this because it was "Her Turn". The Democrats are pathetic.

jshine

Smartest (1) Funniest (4)

2017-06-26 12:24:09 PM

Alebak: Walker: Ummm it's a 90-day ban.

Patriot Act was supposed to be temporary too

The Patriot Act is a law, so revoking it requires passage of a new law (through Congress and the President), whereas an executive order can simply be revoked by the next President unilaterally. Even if Trump does manage to extend it (which is not clear, given that the Supreme Court plans to weigh-in again), it will certainly not survive the next Democratic administration.

filetofish bigmac quarter pounder with cheese

Smartest (7) Funniest (1)

2017-06-26 12:24:16 PM

This is great news; especially considering how badly things are going in Europe with all the recent attacks.

12349876

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2017-06-26 12:24:18 PM

swahnhennessy: I was unaware that the courts could do that - basically rewrite something to fit into a decision. What they were presented with was one thing, but they ruled on another of their own making.

This wasn't a decision on constitutionality. That will be argued in the fall. This was just what can happen between now and the real decision.

penetrating_virga

Smartest (4) Funniest (9)

2017-06-26 12:24:56 PM

First Russian-ghazi flounders, then the 'Travel Ban' is re-instated.. next Trump gets to appoint another Supreme Court Justice. Wow... it's looking like a bad month for the Fark politics regulars. ;)

Happy Monday!

WayneKerr

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2017-06-26 12:25:06 PM

Phineas: WayneKerr: Phineas: Suck it, libs. SJW butthurt levels are now maximized, kek levels rise at proportionate rate.

Hi-five, bro. I am pulling out my pocket pussy for this one.

Cool, cool. Sorry if i left a mess in there earlier.

Ain't no thing. We have to stick together.

Extra Virgin Geek Olive Oil

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2017-06-26 12:25:23 PM

The court is allowing the ban to go into effect for foreign nationals who lack any "bona fide relationship with any person or entity in the United States."

socodog

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2017-06-26 12:25:39 PM

INA Act 212:
Section 212(f), states: "Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate."

Law of the land, people.

Pichu0102

Smartest (6) Funniest (0)

2017-06-26 12:27:17 PM

Never expect things to get better. That's not how reality works.

hubiestubert

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2017-06-26 12:28:09 PM

12349876: swahnhennessy: I was unaware that the courts could do that - basically rewrite something to fit into a decision. What they were presented with was one thing, but they ruled on another of their own making.

This wasn't a decision on constitutionality. That will be argued in the fall. This was just what can happen between now and the real decision.

..and with limited scope, to the point of being pretty much pointless, save in the instances of people who can't draft a decent reason or contacts within the US already. The limitations that the SCOTUS gave this ban pretty much reduce it to a "sure, go ahead and play in traffic, but here's a 6' leash, and the blacktop is 15' from your porch."

thehobbes

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2017-06-26 12:28:09 PM

Didn't they decide 7-2 to hear the case?

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