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(UPI)   120-foot-long escape tunnel found under Mexican prison. Which was, amazingly enough, surrounded by very tall walls. Well built walls, even. It's almost like this could be a metaphor for something   (upi.com) divider line
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oldernell [TotalFark] [OhFark]  
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2017-03-25 8:41:02 AM  
Looks like the wall is going to have to be at least 30 ft deep, too.
 
edmo [TotalFark] [OhFark]  
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2017-03-25 9:12:59 AM  

oldernell: Looks like the wall is going to have to be at least 30 ft deep, too.


As long as taxpayer money gets funneled to private companies, it's all good.
 
2017-03-25 9:31:32 AM  

edmo: oldernell: Looks like the wall is going to have to be at least 30 ft deep, too.

As long as taxpayer money gets funneled to private companies, it's all good.


As long as taxpayer money gets funneled to trump companies, it's all good.
 
2017-03-25 9:58:20 AM  
I bet those damn Mexicans even paid for that wall.
 
2017-03-25 10:33:50 AM  
Was Raquel Welch protecting the tunnel?

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RottenEggs [BareFark]  
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2017-03-25 10:54:46 AM  
Tunnels under the wall have been a "thing" for awhile now .
 
mikaloyd [OhFark]  
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2017-03-25 10:55:19 AM  
Walls dont work. Tear down all walls and prisons and houses.
 
2017-03-25 10:59:13 AM  
Wait, are you saying the prisoners don't like being locked up?
 
2017-03-25 11:00:12 AM  
Yea but no one builds walls like Trump builds walls. Theyll be huuuuugge
 
groppet  
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2017-03-25 11:00:23 AM  

Straight Outta Wells Branch: Was Raquel Welch protecting the tunnel?

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What's up Miss fuzzy britches.
 
RottenEggs [BareFark]  
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2017-03-25 11:00:41 AM  

SloppyFrenchKisser: Wait, are you saying the prisoners don't like being locked up?


Criminals hate walls .
 
2017-03-25 11:03:37 AM  
It obviously means we should tear down all prison walls.  What a genius plan, subby.
 
2017-03-25 11:04:37 AM  
And some of the escapees, I assume, are good people.
 
TheFoz  
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2017-03-25 11:09:26 AM  

RottenEggs: Tunnels under the wall have been a "thing" for awhile now .


WHAT?!  WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL ME THIS AFTER I PLEDGED $13 TRILLION DOLLARS FOR THIS MEXICO WALL?!?
 
2017-03-25 11:11:44 AM  
The wall was even paid for by Mexico.
 
Russ1642  
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2017-03-25 11:15:10 AM  
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2017-03-25 11:16:19 AM  
Subtard, if walls weren't effective prisons wouldn't have them at all. They may not be100%, but they are effective.
 
chirpy [TotalFark]  
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2017-03-25 11:17:45 AM  
Dear Subby,

Excellent headline - very funny.   High five!  Low Five!

Chirpy
 
abhorrent1  
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2017-03-25 11:20:20 AM  
the tunnel was hidden in a makeshift hut that prisoners had built.

Maybe I'm remembering some different show but wasn't tunneling out under a shed how they escaped on Prison Break? Think it was the tool shed or something.

shiat, I can picture the scene but can't remember if it was Prison Break or not.
 
mikaloyd [OhFark]  
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2017-03-25 11:25:33 AM  

happydude45: Subtard, if walls weren't effective prisons wouldn't have them at all. They may not be100%, but they are effective.


Are you some kinda crazy Trump supporter? ARE YOU?!?!
 
2017-03-25 11:25:45 AM  
There are figuratively tons of people itt that can't literally figure out what subby is metaphorically saying. Generally speaking, in writing.
 
mikaloyd [OhFark]  
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2017-03-25 11:28:21 AM  

Peter von Nostrand: There are figuratively tons of people itt


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rudemix [OhFark]  
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2017-03-25 11:28:39 AM  
Menwhile, Mexico's response to trump and his wall

My Chihuahua Humps Trump. The ORIGINAL Un-Edited Version. [ORIGINAL]
Youtube 36_3MKM5g08
 
abhorrent1  
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2017-03-25 11:29:28 AM  
Why do they always go so deep? Wouldn't that put more pressure on the ceiling and a better chance of collapse? Or does going deeper actually make it stronger?
 
2017-03-25 11:30:50 AM  

happydude45: Subtard, if walls weren't effective prisons wouldn't have them at all. They may not be100%, but they are effective.


Walls are a temporary deterrent.  They are effectively useless without additional supervision and monitoring.  How many sentries do you expect to be added to monitor 2,000 miles of wall?
 
Ex-Texan  
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2017-03-25 11:31:31 AM  
Maybe they just wanted to visit Universal Studios Tijuana?
 
Kit Fister [TotalFark]  
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2017-03-25 11:34:50 AM  
There is honestly nothing, short of a fleet of T-1000s and sky-net that will ever make the border impermeable. We get refugees from Cuba that sail across a gulf, we get people by the thousands shipped in from China on Containers and whatnot, there's nothing on earth that will stop a determined refugee.

This is why the best *Deterrent* is to address the issues relating to immigration to tip the scales away from massively abused programs like H1B and towards the migrant laborers.  And before people get on me about how we only want the best and brightest - guess what? We're not getting that and haven't for a while. We're not "the place to be" anymore. Canada, Europe, those places are.    What "Talent" we *are* getting are the ones shoe-horned through H1B programs with falsified credentials and then treated like virtual slave labor that displaces Educated residents (hah, bet you thought i'd say 'natives' or 'americans', but in truth, it's just as damaging to non-citizen permanent residents who have gone through the process legally and are in these industries just as much as it affects Americans).

What the US NEEDS right now is the laborers. Americans won't take the kind of jobs laborers will, and yet they take full advantage of people doing those jobs. The least we can do, if we're not willing to get off of our collective asses and do the shiatty jobs ourselves, is offer more incentive to people who are willing to come here and do those jobs legally while at the same time cracking down hard on anyone who uses illegal labor to dry up the opportunities that make illegal immigration doable.
 
DubyaHater  
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2017-03-25 11:39:11 AM  
Will these escaped prisoners open up taco trucks around Southern California?  I want tacos even though it's 8:30 in the morning.
 
2017-03-25 11:39:58 AM  
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2017-03-25 11:41:39 AM  

abhorrent1: the tunnel was hidden in a makeshift hut that prisoners had built.

Maybe I'm remembering some different show but wasn't tunneling out under a shed how they escaped on Prison Break? Think it was the tool shed or something.

shiat, I can picture the scene but can't remember if it was Prison Break or not.


I would go with this reference

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The Great Escape (7/11) Movie CLIP - The Tunnel Keeps Collapsing (1963) HD
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2017-03-25 11:46:30 AM  

Kit Fister: There is honestly nothing, short of a fleet of T-1000s and sky-net that will ever make the border impermeable. We get refugees from Cuba that sail across a gulf, we get people by the thousands shipped in from China on Containers and whatnot, there's nothing on earth that will stop a determined refugee.


The wall ignores the fact that most illegal immigrants enter the country legally through port-of-entries.
 
gunsmack  
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2017-03-25 11:49:36 AM  

abhorrent1: the tunnel was hidden in a makeshift hut that prisoners had built.

Maybe I'm remembering some different show but wasn't tunneling out under a shed how they escaped on Prison Break? Think it was the tool shed or something.

shiat, I can picture the scene but can't remember if it was Prison Break or not.


You'd like to think that one of the guards might see that hut and think "Hmmm, that wasn't there yesterday. Maybe I should check it out".
 
2017-03-25 12:02:14 PM  
Mine fields would be a way better deterrent.
 
Quinzy [OhFark]  
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2017-03-25 12:04:52 PM  
The last time someone built an effective wall to keep people in or out was the Berlin wall.  That wall required the shooting of people leaving to be at all effective.  It still wasn't 100% effective.  I don't think we want to go to those lengths, when other methods would be more effective.  As in punishing companies that hire illegals or using federal databases of social security numbers to find undocumented workers.
 
2017-03-25 12:07:52 PM  
I think it's interesting how many people are willing to point out the ineffectiveness of Trump's proposed wall, while still using equally ineffective methods of protecting themselves.

I've never once heard anyone complain about how the standard residential door lock that is currently on about 95% (or more) of people's houses/apartments who are reading this right now.  A $10 bumpkey off Amazon will open most of them (without even damaging the lock).  I'm not a big or strong guy, but I can kick in just about any standard deadbolt.  Nevermind the fact that, simply breaking the window will get someone around the lock.

Every department store I go to these days will have those sensors in front of the door that beep when people don't pay.  There are plenty of ways around those that are mostly effortless too.  But I see them all over the place.

I'm not even saying I support the wall, or that it's a good idea to build it.  I'm just saying, for ANY method of security, we're just talking about impact.  Nothing is 100%.  Locking my car door doesn't stop anyone who wants to get in, but it might make it more difficult, or prevent someone who isn't willing to put in that extra effort.

No prison or fortress or encryption scheme or security system will ever prevent everything.  The conversation should be about whether or not it is *effective*.  The industry rates safes and bicycle locks and lots of other things on the NUMBER OF MINUTES it would take an attacker to get in.  *Minutes*.  That's right, the best bicycle lock in the world will add *minutes* of mild annoyance to a determined bicycle thief.

Is the cost worth it?  I dunno.  Depends.

But saying, 'Well, clearly *this attack vector* would be successful' really doesn't say anything about whether or not a particular security measure should be taken.
 
2017-03-25 12:29:57 PM  
Walls are only as good the people who defend it.  Build a wall that goes 30 feet down and someone will dig a tunnel 40 feet deep.
 
2017-03-25 12:31:25 PM  

Driedsponge: happydude45: Subtard, if walls weren't effective prisons wouldn't have them at all. They may not be100%, but they are effective.

Walls are a temporary deterrent.  They are effectively useless without additional supervision and monitoring.  How many sentries do you expect to be added to monitor 2,000 miles of wall?


So because we can't do everything then we shouldn't do anything? That's usually just the opposite of what's said on fark.

Of course fark also loves to point out that prohibition never works. Except for guns. It'll totally work for guns.
 
SomeAFguy  
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2017-03-25 12:39:19 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: I think it's interesting how many people are willing to point out the ineffectiveness of Trump's proposed wall, while still using equally ineffective methods of protecting themselves.

I've never once heard anyone complain about how the standard residential door lock that is currently on about 95% (or more) of people's houses/apartments who are reading this right now.  A $10 bumpkey off Amazon will open most of them (without even damaging the lock).  I'm not a big or strong guy, but I can kick in just about any standard deadbolt.  Nevermind the fact that, simply breaking the window will get someone around the lock.

Every department store I go to these days will have those sensors in front of the door that beep when people don't pay.  There are plenty of ways around those that are mostly effortless too.  But I see them all over the place.

I'm not even saying I support the wall, or that it's a good idea to build it.  I'm just saying, for ANY method of security, we're just talking about impact.  Nothing is 100%.  Locking my car door doesn't stop anyone who wants to get in, but it might make it more difficult, or prevent someone who isn't willing to put in that extra effort.

No prison or fortress or encryption scheme or security system will ever prevent everything.  The conversation should be about whether or not it is *effective*.  The industry rates safes and bicycle locks and lots of other things on the NUMBER OF MINUTES it would take an attacker to get in.  *Minutes*.  That's right, the best bicycle lock in the world will add *minutes* of mild annoyance to a determined bicycle thief.

Is the cost worth it?  I dunno.  Depends.

But saying, 'Well, clearly *this attack vector* would be successful' really doesn't say anything about whether or not a particular security measure should be taken.


Are you paying billions of dollars to kick in my door? No? I don't care. Plus I have a 50lb pit bull and 90lb Great Pyrenees, but I digress.

Ever watch a kid do something that you've done before and know it will fail for multiple reasons? And you can tell the kid why it will fail and they still will do it? And then you ask the kid how much he is paying to continue with his plan that will fail and he says, "You're paying $21 billion." Then you strangle him. That's Trump and his plan. Simply looking at it, you know it will fail because it's a stupid, not thought out plan that his only doing because he said he would.
 
2017-03-25 12:40:31 PM  

abhorrent1: the tunnel was hidden in a makeshift hut that prisoners had built.

Maybe I'm remembering some different show but wasn't tunneling out under a shed how they escaped on Prison Break? Think it was the tool shed or something.

shiat, I can picture the scene but can't remember if it was Prison Break or not.


Hogan's Heroes?
 
2017-03-25 12:47:33 PM  

gunsmack: abhorrent1: the tunnel was hidden in a makeshift hut that prisoners had built.

Maybe I'm remembering some different show but wasn't tunneling out under a shed how they escaped on Prison Break? Think it was the tool shed or something.

shiat, I can picture the scene but can't remember if it was Prison Break or not.

You'd like to think that one of the guards might see that hut and think "Hmmm, that wasn't there yesterday. Maybe I should check it out".


This is what is said to the guard:
Here's $5.
Look the other way for the next month.

/it's almost as bad as TotalFark
 
2017-03-25 12:50:36 PM  
A wall, and a moat.  In the moat, you breed endangered crocodilians.  They "take care of people who go over the wall.  The water takes care of any tunnlerers.  Plus the crocodilians win, because the are being captive bred and hopefully increase the population numbers.
 
2017-03-25 12:52:10 PM  

abhorrent1: the tunnel was hidden in a makeshift hut that prisoners had built.

Maybe I'm remembering some different show but wasn't tunneling out under a shed how they escaped on Prison Break? Think it was the tool shed or something.

shiat, I can picture the scene but can't remember if it was Prison Break or not.


Hogan's Heroes: a dog hut.
 
2017-03-25 1:04:48 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: A wall, and a moat.  In the moat, you breed endangered crocodilians.  They "take care of people who go over the wall.  The water takes care of any tunnlerers.  Plus the crocodilians win, because the are being captive bred and hopefully increase the population numbers.


Also, really strong magnets that screw with compasses.  Just redirect the illegal crossers back south.
 
randomjsa  
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2017-03-25 1:08:53 PM  
Let's apply your logic to see how much sense it makes? Hmm?

Why do you bother locking your car doors when people can just break the windows? You might as well not bother locking them. Why do you even put locks on car doors anyway? What a waste of time, somebody will just use a method to bypass them.

What? You mean it's idiotic to suggest that merely because a deterrent against crime is not foolproof that it shouldn't be used?
 
abhorrent1  
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2017-03-25 1:18:51 PM  

Swampmaster: abhorrent1: the tunnel was hidden in a makeshift hut that prisoners had built.

Maybe I'm remembering some different show but wasn't tunneling out under a shed how they escaped on Prison Break? Think it was the tool shed or something.

shiat, I can picture the scene but can't remember if it was Prison Break or not.

Hogan's Heroes: a dog hut.


No it was more recent. Dammit this is going to bug me now.
 
OOF  
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2017-03-25 1:37:58 PM  

Swampmaster: abhorrent1: the tunnel was hidden in a makeshift hut that prisoners had built.

Maybe I'm remembering some different show but wasn't tunneling out under a shed how they escaped on Prison Break? Think it was the tool shed or something.

shiat, I can picture the scene but can't remember if it was Prison Break or not.

Hogan's Heroes: a dog hut.


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2017-03-25 1:39:15 PM  

SomeAFguy: Fark_Guy_Rob: I think it's interesting how many people are willing to point out the ineffectiveness of Trump's proposed wall, while still using equally ineffective methods of protecting themselves.

I've never once heard anyone complain about how the standard residential door lock that is currently on about 95% (or more) of people's houses/apartments who are reading this right now.  A $10 bumpkey off Amazon will open most of them (without even damaging the lock).  I'm not a big or strong guy, but I can kick in just about any standard deadbolt.  Nevermind the fact that, simply breaking the window will get someone around the lock.

Every department store I go to these days will have those sensors in front of the door that beep when people don't pay.  There are plenty of ways around those that are mostly effortless too.  But I see them all over the place.

I'm not even saying I support the wall, or that it's a good idea to build it.  I'm just saying, for ANY method of security, we're just talking about impact.  Nothing is 100%.  Locking my car door doesn't stop anyone who wants to get in, but it might make it more difficult, or prevent someone who isn't willing to put in that extra effort.

No prison or fortress or encryption scheme or security system will ever prevent everything.  The conversation should be about whether or not it is *effective*.  The industry rates safes and bicycle locks and lots of other things on the NUMBER OF MINUTES it would take an attacker to get in.  *Minutes*.  That's right, the best bicycle lock in the world will add *minutes* of mild annoyance to a determined bicycle thief.

Is the cost worth it?  I dunno.  Depends.

But saying, 'Well, clearly *this attack vector* would be successful' really doesn't say anything about whether or not a particular security measure should be taken.

Are you paying billions of dollars to kick in my door? No? I don't care. Plus I have a 50lb pit bull and 90lb Great Pyrenees, but I digress.

Ever watch a kid do ...


I was gonna go with more along the lines of: have you ever had a friend who kept blaming their problems on the wrong thing?  Like, they got a flat tire, and instead of getting rid of the nails in their driveway, they blamed the Mexicans?

Its kinda like that.
 
2017-03-25 1:43:04 PM  

randomjsa: Let's apply your logic to see how much sense it makes? Hmm?

Why do you bother locking your car doors when people can just break the windows? You might as well not bother locking them. Why do you even put locks on car doors anyway? What a waste of time, somebody will just use a method to bypass them.

What? You mean it's idiotic to suggest that merely because a deterrent against crime is not foolproof that it shouldn't be used?


It's more like you pay a mechanic to remove your engine every time you park, but the problem is someone keeps stealing the radio.

Most illegals and illegal activity use legal port-of-entry.  So, what relatively little illegal activity the wall will stop, or, more likely, only slow down, is it really worth $25 billion up front, and several billion a year in continuing costs?
 
rnatalie [TotalFark] [OhFark]  
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2017-03-25 1:54:56 PM  

Straight Outta Wells Branch: Was Raquel Welch protecting the tunnel?

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What say there fuzzy britches?
 
rnatalie [TotalFark] [OhFark]  
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2017-03-25 1:55:51 PM  

Russ1642: [img.fark.net image 425x318]


Crawled through a river of shiat and came out clean on the other side.
Why he chose enchilada night I will never know.
 
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