Fedor, Shogun, Nog and Cro Cop's record when fighting in a cage...

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Fedor is 2-4
Shogun 10-9
Cro Cop 5-6
Big Nog 5-6

These fighters seem to have better fight awareness in a ring.
 
fedor specifically seems to have totally forgotten how he fights. He's flaming out worse than Chuck Liddell and Anderson Silva
 
Krimzon said:
fedor specifically seems to have totally forgotten how he fights. He's flaming out worse than Chuck Liddell and Anderson Silva
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I think Fedor is looking for early finishes so he can take less damage and fight more fights, hasn't really been working out but that would probably be my strategy in his spot too.
 
Nog and Shogun won UFC titles in a cage.

Fedor and Nog never even fought in a cage until 9 years into their career, when they were already slowing down in their careers.

Cro Cop had over 100 fights before he ever fought in a cage.

They were already slowing down and past their best days before they ever fought in a cage.
 
Threads like this always have the same outcome...
 
Lionel Mandrake said:
Fedor is 2-4
Shogun 10-9
Cro Cop 5-6
Big Nog 5-6

These fighters seem to have better fight awareness in a ring.
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All 4 guys have extensive combat sport resumes and have a ton of miles on them. Shogun has come back from two (IIRC) blown knees. Big Nog has been in some of the biggest wars ever and has a ton of fights.

Cro Cop was definitely underwhelming and you can blame it on being out of his prime because he had just come off winning the OWGP
 
Lionel Mandrake said:
Fedor is 2-4
Shogun 10-9
Cro Cop 5-6
Big Nog 5-6

These fighters seem to have better fight awareness in a ring.
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...or perhaps they merely made most of there prime years fighting in a ring? you knew that perfectly well of course, had been told it about 100 times yet revert back to the same simplistic trolling each time.
 
cyrusthevyrus said:
this is non-sense. its called age, dude.
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Plays a part sure but Fedor started losing when he was 33. Shogun started losing when he was 29. Cro Cop started losing when he was 32. Nog too.

It has more to do with miles than age probably.
 
welcometohavoc said:
All 4 guys have extensive combat sport resumes and have a ton of miles on them. Shogun has come back from two (IIRC) blown knees. Big Nog has been in some of the biggest wars ever and has a ton of fights.

Cro Cop was definitely underwhelming and you can blame it on being out of his prime because he had just come off winning the OWGP
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Crocop is definitely the one you can say had some trouble with the shift in environment at first with Gonzaga's elbows and Kongo's cage clinching but by his second UFC run he was very clearly past his best, the same speed and agility just wasn't there anymore after a number of bad injuries.

Nog was past his best by 2009, Shogun clearly on the decline after the 3rd ACL sugery in 2011, Fedor was dropping off whilst still in a ring its arguable but definitely was by the time he got to a cage.
 
That's practically their records in tested environment to?

Fedor would be 4-4?
 
Anderson Silva couldn't cut it in PRIDE....went to the UFC, juiced....and dominated.


GSP.......Lost to Hendricks(anybody with eyes knows this), to matt serra, and an out of prime Hughes.


Conor...lost to people without wikipedia pages.
 
Fedor is now 4-5 in the cage. And one of those wins was the Maldonado fight.
 
They all adapted to a cage setting to a degree, but I agree that the difference tripped them up when they first fought in a cage.
 
They were all worn out vets by the time they tried the cage.

There are differences...
I bet that Jeremy Stephens would have been a perennial Top 5, probably a champion, if he got to fight in a ring instead.
 
More cherry picked stats. How about the fact that all of those guys except Shogun had a decade or more in the fight game before moving to thw ufc. And Shogun had multiple acl tears during his ufc tenure.
 
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