International Argentine submarine missing with 44 aboard: ARA San Juan's imploded wreckage has been found.

Signals from missing Argentine sub give hope for rescue effort
By M.L. NESTEL | Nov 19, 2017, 2:08 AM ET​

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Seven signal pings believed to be from the submarine ARA San Juan, which has been missing since Wednesday when communications broke down, are giving Argentine officials hope that the crew can still be saved.

Argentine Defense Minister Oscar Aguad tweeted out the news Saturday night, confirming that the 44 crew members may be able to be saved after receiving "7 signals from satellite calls that would have been from the San Juan submarine."

Authorities said the calls were made on Saturday, and that the Defense Ministry is working with an American company to analyze the location the calls came from.
By Sunday, the pursuit to pinpoint the pings will be bolstered by the might of the U.S. Navy and Air Force, which are deploying more resources into the massive rescue mission already underway to locate the missing submarine, Pentagon officials told ABC News.

On Saturday, the Undersea Rescue Comand, or URC, shipped out two "independent rescue assets" from San Diego en route to the Southern Atlantic, where the Argentine Navy lost communications with one of its submarines. They are expected to arrive on Sunday, officials said.

The highly trained American sailors will employ advanced technology on the Submarine Rescue Chamber, or SRC, which has already been in touch with the family members of the 44 on board, and will utilize an underwater system called Remotely Operated Vehicle, or ROV. It can climb down to depths of 850-feet and pull to safety "up to six persons at a time," the Pentagon officials said.

The sailors will also be relying on Pressurized Rescue Module, or PRM, which can rescue "up to 16 personnel at a time ... by sealing over the submarine's hatch allowing sailors to safely transfer to the recuse chamber," according to officials.

The American reinforcements will join the Navy's P-8A Poseidon multi-mission maritime aircraft and a NASA P-3 research aircraft that have been assisting the ongoing search for the ARA San Juan, a German-built TR 1700 class diesel-electric submarine.
Before vanishing on Wednesday, the vessel was on a routine trip from a base in Ushia, on the southern tip of the continent, to its home base of Mar del Plata.

The submarine's last-known position in the area of operations was near the San Jorge Gulf, about 240 nautical miles from the country's southern shore.

When the submarine lost touch with its navy, a fire reportedly knocked out the submarine's communications systems.

No SOS warning was received at any time, the Navy said.

Adm. Gabriel Gonzalez, according to The Associated Press, said he was still hopeful the submarine is only suffering minor equipment troubles and doesn't consider losing touch with the submarine serious.

"We have a loss of communications. We are not talking of an emergency," he said

The ARA San Juan launched in 1983 and is one of only three in the Argentine Navy's fleet.

It hadn't experienced any problems until two years ago, when it was sent to port to be repaired, the Navy said.
http://abcnews.go.com/International...ine-give-hope-rescue-effort/story?id=51248600
 
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Could be some subversive tactic that will emerge later on.
 
Bad Weather Hampers Search For Missing Argentine Submarine
November 20, 2017​

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Stormy conditions off the coast of Patagonia were hampering efforts to locate a missing Argentine submarine with 44 crew members. Doubts also surfaced over the origin of satellite signals that were initially thought to have come from the vessel.

Communications with the ARA San Juan, a German-built diesel-electric submarine that entered service in the Argentine Navy in 1985, were lost on Wednesday. The vessel was returning to the Mar del Plata Naval Base south of Buenos Aires at the conclusion of a routine patrol to the far southern port of Ushuaia.

Waves up to 20-feet in the area where the sub went missing, about 260 miles from the Argentine coast, were complicating the international search effort, Adm. Gabriel Gonzalez, commander of the base, was quoted by The Associated Press as saying. He said similar conditions were expected for the next two days.

On Saturday, three days after losing contact with the San Juan, officials said they had received seven satellite signals that they hoped would help in pinpointing its location. However, by Sunday those hopes appeared to have been dashed.

"We do not have clear evidence that (the calls) have come from that unit," Gonzalez said. "We are analyzing more closely to reliably determine that they were not calls coming from the submarine."

The New York Times reports that Iridium, the satellite phone company, said it had "found no evidence that an Iridium phone aboard the vessel had been used since Wednesday morning." Reuters adds that Iridium says the last call detected came on Wednesday, the same day the submarine went silent.

Navy spokesman Enrique Balbi, quoted by the AP, said the low-frequency satellite signals received on Saturday lasted only a "few seconds," but were initially thought to have been attempts by the crew to re-establish contact.

The BBC reports that "It is thought that the submarine may have had communication difficulties caused by a power cut. Navy protocol dictates that a vessel should come to the surface if communication has been lost."

According to Gonzalez, more than a dozen ships from Argentina, the United States, Britain, Chile and Brazil were involved in the search, but that the rough weather had mainly limited the operation to aerial reconnaissance.

Two U.S. aircraft carriers were part of the search team.

NPR's Philip Reeves reports that officials say the crew should have enough food and oxygen aboard. He says the U.S. Navy was dispatching assistance from its Undersea Rescue Commandheadquartered in San Diego.

In a statement issued late Sunday, the U.S. Naval Forces Southern Command said it had deployed unmanned underwater vehicles (UUVs) to join the search.

"The equipment consists of one Bluefin 12D (Deep) UUV and three Iver 580 UUVs, which are operated by the U.S. Navy's recently-established Unmanned Undersea Vehicle Squadron 1, based in Pearl Harbor, Hawaii," the statement said. "The UUVs are uniquely capable to help in the search. Both types are capable of deploying quickly and searching wide areas of the ocean using Side Scan Sonar, a system that is used to efficiently create an image of large areas of the sea floor."

Philip says the fact that the submarine is camouflaged was another factor hampering the search.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo...ampers-search-for-missing-argentine-submarine
 
I've seen Das Boot, that shit looks no fun at all.
 
Sad. Hopefully they are safe and saved, but something tells me it's not looking good.
 
Damn that must be scary as hell. Hope they find them in time.
 
This may seem like a stupid question, but has there ever been a successful rescue operation of a submarine crew that's submerged?
 
This may seem like a stupid question, but has there ever been a successful rescue operation of a submarine crew that's submerged?

yup, look up 'swede' momsen. basically invented the art of subsea rescue
 
One of my worst nightmares.
 
Good luck and I'm glad our Navy is helping.

They can get them out most likely if they are not too deep.
 
i guess they're picking up some transients that may be from the sub. tools banging on the hull
 
One of my worst nightmares.

I was accepted to the naval academy (got DQed due to some medical issues though) and sub duty horrified me and would have been my main motivation for good grades and a better pick of roles. Trapped underwater on a submarine where you have absolutely 0 control of possibly saving yourself. Horror movie level nihilism
 
I was accepted to the naval academy (got DQed due to some medical issues though) and sub duty horrified me and would have been my main motivation for good grades and a better pick of roles. Trapped underwater on a submarine where you have absolutely 0 control of possibly saving yourself. Horror movie level nihilism

better than sea state 7 in a north atlantic winter
 
Holy shit, this is a story of nightmares. Death via a potential combination of any of the following: drowning, burning alive, slowly suffocating, dying of no food/water.
 
Holy shit, this is a story of nightmares. Death via a potential combination of any of the following: drowning, burning alive, slowly suffocating, dying of no food/water.

The best variant here is death via inhalation of toxic fumes.
 
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