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Watching back Penn vs Sherk because well BJ is my all time favorite fighter.
What a performance. but...

Bj would have never beaten Yair. This is the age of the athlete and the fighters who use their length and reach well. Of course there are exceptions to this but its clear that fighters who are long limbed big for the division fighters are becoming the new normal. Wonderboy, McGregor, Jon Jones, Tony Ferguson, Neil Magny, etc.
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Lets double up on that report (just to be safe.)

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Andre Ward only has a 71 inch reach. Joe Frazier was 73 inch reach
I know it's a different sport, but the level of technical striking is far more advanced.

Long limbs have advantages and disadvantages. If this "age" favors long-limbed athletes, we'll get a new "age" as soon as a short stocky guy gets a few wins.
 
Watching back Penn vs Sherk because well BJ is my all time favorite fighter.
What a performance. but...

Bj would have never beaten Yair. This is the age of the athlete and the fighters who use their length and reach well. Of course there are exceptions to this but its clear that fighters who are long limbed big for the division fighters are becoming the new normal. Wonderboy, McGregor, Jon Jones, Tony Ferguson, Neil Magny, etc.


GSP!?!?!?! You are fogetting GSP! 5'10" with 76" reach! That's way better than 6' Wonderboy with 75" or 6'3" Magny with 80".

C'mon!

If Roy fought Conor, Conor would have a 2" reach advantage. When is Conor going up to 265?
Give Roy some credit.
 
Watching back Penn vs Sherk because well BJ is my all time favorite fighter.
What a performance. but...

Bj would have never beaten Yair. This is the age of the athlete and the fighters who use their length and reach well. Of course there are exceptions to this but its clear that fighters who are long limbed big for the division fighters are becoming the new normal. Wonderboy, McGregor, Jon Jones, Tony Ferguson, Neil Magny, etc.

It's the age of tall fighters better at being tall. Also the majority of the divisions have gotten bigger over the years. Yair is bigger than BJ, and he's bigger than a lot of the LWs from that era, Serk for sure.

Tall fighters also know how to defend take-downs. Traditionally that's been the problem, but TDD in general has really improved and the majority of the taller fighters tend to have good TDD now.
 
This is another FAD belief of MMA fans like when it became popular to think that moving around a lot automatically made a fighter much more "skilled" than others.
 
Watching back Penn vs Sherk because well BJ is my all time favorite fighter.
What a performance. but...

Bj would have never beaten Yair. This is the age of the athlete and the fighters who use their length and reach well. Of course there are exceptions to this but its clear that fighters who are long limbed big for the division fighters are becoming the new normal. Wonderboy, McGregor, Jon Jones, Tony Ferguson, Neil Magny, etc.

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Andre Ward only has a 71 inch reach. Joe Frazier was 73 inch reach
I know it's a different sport, but the level of technical striking is far more advanced.

Long limbs have advantages and disadvantages. If this "age" favors long-limbed athletes, we'll get a new "age" as soon as a short stocky guy gets a few wins.
You can tell how immature the MMA fanbase is by how they constantly adopt new fads in search of the one true "best" style or body type, and how quickly those fads fall out of favor.
 
Yair the dude that almost lost to Bruce fucking Leroy a year ago?
 
You can tell how immature the MMA fanbase is by how they constantly adopt new fads in search of the one true "best" style or body type, and how quickly those fads fall out of favor.
It's not a fad lol

You're the one being the dummy here

It's basic human biology and physics

You lose a bit of peak power, but gain in every other department significantly

It's just plain easier fighting with an ape frame than a tank frame in general. You get longer time to react, way easier time covering distance, way easier submissions, from way different spots than normal people can even reach or put any leverage behind, aswell as threatening in zones the opponent cannot by default, etc, etc.
So you will always go in to a fight with a default advantage, fighting downhill so to speak, both figuratively and literally.

There just haven't been that many who have been both ape framed and talented/skilled at the same time, due to the simple fact that these freak frames are less common in general (that's what makes them freak/abnormal), and other sports like Wrestling favors a stronger base and a lower centre of gravity, due to the simple fact that there is no cage, and the sport is only fought in one direction, which is into/manipulating the opponent's centre. -and yet still, we see freak bodies actually having competed in the UFC, despite having near 0 fight iq or skill.

In other words, you can get away with being a worse fighter, if you have a freak body -not always, but many times- more so than you can being "normal" framed against a freak body.

But when you do finally happen to get a freak that also happens to be a natural at fighting, like Jon Jones, there is just nothing anyone can do, it's just plain not fair, lol. It becomes a mismatch.

The old weight-only measurements simply do not cut it in reality, when there is a cage, when there is open style fighting, and so many factors going into it other than weight, and some of them, like reach, can often matter just as much, if not more.

There will always be shorter/less reachy fighters in MMA, as there will always be born people with extreme reaction times and timing, and natural fight instinct, who are able to find success by landing bombs, despite the default physicality being against them overall, but you can still see how over the years and decades as the sport evolves, more and more divisions will be stacked with freak athletes with freak frames, and shorter/less reachy fighters being phased out by natural selection, which is already happening and has been happening for some time.
It takes time though, but it is inevitable that when the dust settles, it won't just be free-for-all any longer, where anything can happen and everything is up for grabs. The roster will only become more and more specialized with time, not less.
 
It's not a fad lol

You're the one being the dummy here

It's basic human biology and physics

You lose a bit of peak power, but gain in every other department significantly

It's just plain easier fighting with an ape frame than a tank frame in general. You get longer time to react, way easier time covering distance, way easier submissions, from way different spots than normal people can even reach or put any leverage behind, aswell as threatening in zones the opponent cannot by default, etc, etc.
So you will always go in to a fight with a default advantage, fighting downhill so to speak, both figuratively and literally.

There just haven't been that many who have been both ape framed and talented/skilled at the same time, due to the simple fact that these freak frames are less common in general (that's what makes them freak/abnormal), and other sports like Wrestling favors a stronger base and a lower centre of gravity, due to the simple fact that there is no cage, and the sport is only fought in one direction, which is into/manipulating the opponent's centre. -and yet still, we see freak bodies actually having competed in the UFC, despite having near 0 fight iq or skill.

In other words, you can get away with being a worse fighter, if you have a freak body -not always, but many times- more so than you can being "normal" framed against a freak body.

But when you do finally happen to get a freak that also happens to be a natural at fighting, like Jon Jones, there is just nothing anyone can do, it's just plain not fair, lol. It becomes a mismatch.

The old weight-only measurements simply do not cut it in reality, when there is a cage, when there is open style fighting, and so many factors going into it other than weight, and some of them, like reach, can often matter just as much, if not more.

There will always be shorter/less reachy fighters in MMA, as there will always be born people with extreme reaction times and timing, and natural fight instinct, who are able to find success by landing bombs, despite the default physicality being against them overall, but you can still see how over the years and decades as the sport evolves, more and more divisions will be stacked with freak athletes with freak frames, and shorter/less reachy fighters being phased out by natural selection, which is already happening and has been happening for some time.
It takes time though, but it is inevitable that when the dust settles, it won't just be free-for-all any longer, where anything can happen and everything is up for grabs. The roster will only become more and more specialized with time, not less.
That's a lot of writing just to be brushed off as a fad lover. lol
 
Yair the dude that almost lost to Bruce fucking Leroy a year ago?
It's ridiculous that people are already treating Yair like a proven top fighter calling him a prime example of MMA evolution lol. Maybe he will be a top fighter but WTF has he done so far, beat up an old man BJ? So a short younger fighter wouldn't be able to clown current BJ (like Edgar already did)?

MMA fans are such fad loving children.
 
The LHW champ is 5'10......

You say Wonderboy but he just lost twice in a row to the actual champ who is 5'9 and one of the shortest elite WWs

Gastelum is a 5'8 MW prospect. Yoel Ro mero is a 5'10 contender. Bisping is of average height for MW and the champ.

Stipe is a tall but not an enormous HW.

The LW champ is 5'9 which is probably about the average in that division Conor is not that tall he wasn't even that tall at FW there are 5'11 and 6ft FWs let alone LWs.

Aldo is 5'7.

Garbrandt is 5'8 which isn't short for BW but not super tall either and he has short arms.

Mighty Mouse isn't tall even for FlyW

Many of the guys you named are middle of the pack gatekeepers.
 
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