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Question: Real Time Transmission of Video - Space Travel
Vanity | 6/12/2017 | Vanity

Posted on 06/22/2017 9:45:54 PM PDT by Vendome

So, here is the dumb question my brother posed:

If a ship leaves earth and transmits "LIVE" video as it travels deep into space, would the transmissions continue to be live and real time even as it traveled months and years away from earth?

At what point does that transmission actually delay or become part of the past?

Bonus question: Assuming the craft continues travel directly away from earth, if it stopped transmitting and then restarted transmitting would that now be real time?

Caveat: I don't know the distance that makes the transmission now a part of the past...


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1 posted on 06/22/2017 9:45:54 PM PDT by Vendome
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To: Vendome

Albert Einstein maight have been able to answer.


2 posted on 06/22/2017 9:50:21 PM PDT by luvbach1 (I hope Trump runs roughshod over the inevitable obstuctionists, Dems, progs, libs, or RINOs!)
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To: Vendome

Transmission will always be “live” when sent. It will be delayed by the time it is received by the transmission time which is the distance divided by the speed of light. (in the same units)

Note that on the news when the story is from somewhere else on the planet, there is often a delay before the “live” transmission starts, this is cause by the transmission delay which via a satellite is about .2 sec.


3 posted on 06/22/2017 9:50:26 PM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (California engineer (ret) and ex-teacher (ret) now part time Professor (what do you know?))
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To: Vendome
In space a radio wave travels the speed of light, 186,000 miles per sec.
So 3/4 of the way to the moon, the word you hear was created one second earlier.
4 posted on 06/22/2017 9:51:02 PM PDT by fedupjohn (The Alpha Male Chosen By The People to #MAGA....President Trump...)
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To: Vendome

Every light second away from Earth(speed light travels in a second) would add a 1 second delay.

It takes around 13 minutes for a signal to reach mars and vice versa.

Around about where the moon is on average is one light second.

It would take 8 minutes ish for a signal to reach the sun. If it went out we wouldn’t know for 8 minutes.


5 posted on 06/22/2017 9:52:56 PM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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To: Vendome

When the spaceship is a bit over 186,000 miles from earth the video will be received 1 second after it was generated. Double that distance and the delay will be 2 seconds.

And so on.

Light and radio signals travel at about 186,000 miles per second. That’s really all you need to know.

Everything you see is “in the past”.


6 posted on 06/22/2017 9:53:10 PM PDT by InterceptPoint (Ted, you finally endorsed. About time.)
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To: Vendome
  The signal propagates at the speed of light, so the receiver never sees 'live' video.
7 posted on 06/22/2017 9:53:57 PM PDT by Maurice Tift (Never wear anything that panics the cat. -- P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: Vendome

Your brother likes being a pot stirrer

Scientifically...the transmission is always live. The reception is current to the receiver


8 posted on 06/22/2017 9:55:43 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Vendome

But to answer your question: yes, a transmission started in Earth orbit would become more delayed the further the craft travels. You wouldn’t notice it however because you would just assume it’s still “live”, there would be no way to tell unless you sent them a message and asked for a response, you wouldn’t see them get the message until however much time passed related to how many light seconds/minutes/hours/days away they were.


9 posted on 06/22/2017 9:56:55 PM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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To: Vendome

Transmissions are never “live”, if by “live” you mean instantaneous. There is always a delay due to the speed of light or even the speed of sound. The further away, the longer the delay. There is even a delay due to the processing electronics or even the hardware between your ears.

On the other hand, if you are getting the transmission from a source directly in the shortest possible time rather than from a stored version, perhaps that is “live”, even if the delay was years due to distance.

But if by “live” you mean in a manner that allows for interaction between the communicants, then that is an arbitrary definition determined mostly by the patience of the participants.

Glad to be of essentially no help whatsoever.


10 posted on 06/22/2017 9:57:02 PM PDT by calenel (The Democratic Party is a Criminal Enterprise. It is the Socialist Mafia.)
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To: KC_for_Freedom; Vendome

Agree with KC.


11 posted on 06/22/2017 9:58:31 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists Call 'em what you will, they all have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Vendome

Interesting question, but what would be even more interesting to ponder is what would happen if a spaceship crew began to broadcast live video/audio as they launched, and then accelerated to near the speed of light. Since time passes much more slowly for the spaceship crew at near light speed than it does for those on Earth, would the Earthbound viewers see the broadcast keep slowing down as the craft approached light speed, until eventually it seemed to be running at a fraction of real-time? My guess is that this is precisely what would happen, but curious if anyone has other ideas.


12 posted on 06/22/2017 10:02:06 PM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: fedupjohn

Assuming that the speed of the space craft remains much less than the speed of light, the time within video will be stretched as distance from earth increases. So motion as viewed from the broadcast will be slowed.


13 posted on 06/22/2017 10:02:32 PM PDT by Swirl
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To: noiseman

The transmission would run at normal time and speed. It would just be delayed.


14 posted on 06/22/2017 10:06:17 PM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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To: Vendome

I think Art Bell is on at this hour.


15 posted on 06/22/2017 10:08:08 PM PDT by BobL (In Honor of the NeverTrumpers, I declare myself as FR's first 'Imitation NeverTrumper')
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To: FreedomStar3028

only if you remained the same distance from the earth!


16 posted on 06/22/2017 10:09:18 PM PDT by Swirl
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To: Vendome
would the transmissions continue to be live and real time even as it traveled months and years away from earth?

The speed of light is finite, so the transmission will not be perfectly "live" after the ship has traveled at all -- even one inch. There will be a delay, that will increase with distance. Stopping and restarting the transmission will not affect the rate of increase of the delay.

17 posted on 06/22/2017 10:12:32 PM PDT by TChad
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To: noiseman

Think about this.

The speed of light, is the limit to how fast the spacecraft can fly.

But what if the spacecraft was to succeed in reaching 99% of the speed of light? So just 1% short of the speed of light.

The light beams (or radio waves) broadcast back toward base, would be travelling at the speed of light.

But what speed of light? Speed of light as measured relative to the ship which transmitted them? It is travelling away from earth, at 99% the speed of light. So would the radio/light waves be actually received here, at 1 percent of their original velocity?

Or would the radio waves be received here, at the speed of light here?

Is that conflict, what relativity is all about?

Anyway, that’s all. :D


18 posted on 06/22/2017 10:14:25 PM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: Swirl

No. Even if they accelerated to relativistic speeds, even reaching the speed of light. The transmission will continue in normal time for the viewer. It’s not going to just slow down or speed up because they are going the speed of light.
The transmission is being observed INSIDE their craft. Which is recording and sending that transmission. The transmission isn’t accelerating away. It’s travelling at its normal speed. The transmission would just be delayed the further they got from Earth.


19 posted on 06/22/2017 10:14:53 PM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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To: Swirl
As the ship is moving away from earth, the feed would increasingly slow down until the ship stopped, relative to earth, and then became regular speed but with a delay. Doppler Effect.
20 posted on 06/22/2017 10:15:28 PM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt (Sehnsucht)
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