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Utah Republican Argues Against Equal Pay for Women: It's 'Bad for Families' and Society
San Fracisco Chronicle ^ | Sunday, February 19, 2017 | Kristine Guerra

Posted on 02/19/2017 3:00:17 PM PST by nickcarraway

In a letter criticizing a bill that addresses pay gap in the workforce, a Utah Republican said that men have traditionally earned more than women and, citing "simple economics," argued that things should stay that way.

James Green's letter to the editor, published in two local publications earlier this week, immediately prompted such outrage that within two days, Green had written an apology and resigned from his post as vice chair of the Wasatch County Republican Party.

Green said in his letter, published Wednesday by the Park Record and the Wasatch Wave, that men make more than women because they're "the primary breadwinners" of their families, and paying women equally would somehow ruin the makeup of a traditional family where "the Mother" remains at home raising children.

"If businesses are forced to pay women the same as male earnings, that means they will have to reduce the pay for the men they employ, simple economics," Green wrote. "If that happens, then men will have an even more difficult time earning enough to support their families, which will mean more Mothers will be forced to leave the home (where they may prefer to be) to join the workforce to make up the difference."

And having more women in the workforce would create competition for jobs, "even men's jobs," Green wrote. That will, in turn, lower the pay for all jobs and force "more and more Mothers" into the workforce, he argued.

That's "bad for families and thus for all of society," Green wrote. "It's a vicious cycle that only gets worse the more equality of pay is forced upon us. It's a situation of well-meaning intentions, but negative unintended consequences."

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1 posted on 02/19/2017 3:00:17 PM PST by nickcarraway
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So the Vice-Chair of a county Republican party committee somewhere in freaking Utah now speaks for all Republicans. He’s not even an elected official but the Chronicle just uses this to typify the stupidity of half the voters in the country.

I bet a Democrat somewhere said something stupid today as well.


2 posted on 02/19/2017 3:05:22 PM PST by babble-on
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To: nickcarraway

He’s a little late. We already have equal pay for women. If a woman gets the same credentials and puts in the same amount of time as a man, she gets the same pay, and may well even get advantages in hiring and promotion.


3 posted on 02/19/2017 3:06:19 PM PST by ottbmare (the OTTB mare, now a proud Marine Mom)
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To: nickcarraway
“Women in the People's Republic of China enjoy equal rights with men in all spheres of life, political, economic, cultural and social, and family life. The state protects the rights and interests of women, applies the principle of equal pay for equal work for men and women alike and trains and selects cadres from among women.”

1982 Red China constitution, Article 48
This is a common theme among the hard left. It even showed up in that “Mmm mmm mmm, Barack Hussein Obama” chant. All part of “abolition of the family”, straight out of the Manifesto’s second chapter.
4 posted on 02/19/2017 3:06:30 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: nickcarraway

The guy has to be a liberal plant with these answers.

Women’s pay gaps are essentially nonexistent wen you factor in the rational reasons - starting salaries/wage differences, varying experience levels, time away from the company not working, so therefore no pay raises or promotions during these times, different jobs are paid differently, still some higher earning jobs most women don’t go into because THEY DO NOT WANT TO.

So many gals I knew didnt want to go into engineering because they didt want to work that hard. Dont know how many times I heard that. Journalism, general business school, teachers.


5 posted on 02/19/2017 3:07:44 PM PST by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: nickcarraway
'And having more women in the workforce would create competition for jobs,'

From 1965 onward, women and immigrants have contributed to wage arbitrage. Not a new idea, and one favored by the GOP.

6 posted on 02/19/2017 3:08:05 PM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: babble-on

Wasatch County has a population of 29,000. This is a major news story when the vice-chair of that county’s Republican party has an opinion like this. Not surprised the San Francisco Chronicle felt compelled to run this major news item.


7 posted on 02/19/2017 3:09:28 PM PST by babble-on
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To: nickcarraway

Here it comes. Wait for it.....

ALL REPUBLICANS DON’T SUPPORT EQUAL PAY FOR WOMEN.


8 posted on 02/19/2017 3:10:50 PM PST by Cold War Veteran - Submarines
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To: ottbmare

I don’t think there has been an apples-to-apples wage gap. If that were true, some companies could hire all women and beat their competitors by having less expenses.


9 posted on 02/19/2017 3:12:30 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
Mormon influence. They think women should be subservient (and continually pregnant).
10 posted on 02/19/2017 3:13:11 PM PST by vette6387
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To: nickcarraway
that were true, some companies could hire all women and beat their competitors by having less expenses.

Worked OK for this guy:


11 posted on 02/19/2017 3:16:24 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Not tired of winning yet!)
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To: babble-on

You have to have lived in Heber to really understand.

Up until about 20 years ago, it was still 1940 there.

There’s a reason it’s called Time Warp Utah...


12 posted on 02/19/2017 3:18:03 PM PST by Regulator
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To: nickcarraway

Not doubt a Mormon. Still an absolute idiot


13 posted on 02/19/2017 3:24:50 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Olog-hai

Well that’s all well and good

Address the issue of the letter. Are you suggesting that a single woman should be paid less just because she is single. That was the attitude in the fifties and sixties. Pay should be paid on the job done end of story

Should my daughter,an ICU nurse, be paid less than a man with the same experience and credentials? What idiocy


14 posted on 02/19/2017 3:28:27 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: nickcarraway

Idiot.

Taking a myth, and saying “well what’s wrong with that???”.

Was his special underwear on too tight?


15 posted on 02/19/2017 3:37:21 PM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: nickcarraway

Although I support equal pay for equal work and responsibility, there is something that is always left out of the equation.

When I entered the work force in the sixties, married women mostly did not work. Men supported their families and women stayed home with the kids.

I’m sure to some, both parents working was a very seductive idea. Hell, the family could almost double their income and live so much better. Better everything...

Except in real life it doesn’t work that way. The merchants of the world are not stupid. If you double the family income, guess what? The rent doubles too. As does the cost of everything else.

So the sixties women got jobs and deserted the family and got nothing in return.

Same thing BTW with the minimum wage. If you double the minimum wage, things that demographic buys will just double in price.


16 posted on 02/19/2017 3:55:08 PM PST by babygene (Make America Great Again)
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To: Nifster

Is that the issue of the letter? Or is that a loaded question?

You give the leftists an inch, they’ll take you a thousand miles. They are all about abolition of the family. And it may be that this politician, Mr. Green, is actually trying to help that leftist cause out by highlighting it in this fashion.


17 posted on 02/19/2017 3:56:56 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: babygene

And of course the increase in supply of labor will drive the price of labor down.


18 posted on 02/19/2017 3:57:37 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: nickcarraway

The GOP just needs to be taken out back and burned.

Trump should start and organize a new party in time to get it on all 50 ballots for the 2020 election.


19 posted on 02/19/2017 3:59:01 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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The Utah/Mormon GOP is beyond useless anyway—from Romney to Hatch to Reid to Egg McMuffin to Chaffetz to...


20 posted on 02/19/2017 4:02:22 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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