Did you expect Mousasi would do better against Shlemenko?

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For sure that eye was fucked up and he couldn't see much, so props to him fr being able to keep fighting and not get KTFO.
His TDs were weak and that was to be expected, but damn he could'nt get that RNC done...that was a little disappointing of him.
Btw I think the fight should have been a draw, he didn't really deserve that win.

10-9 Moose
10-10
10-9 Schlemenko

PS: that Shlemenko guy hits like a fucking truck! The thud whene those punches landed, dayum! Maybe the guy is back on the ol' vitamins lol
 
Yes,but I have never had a broken ortibal bone
 
People will discredit how hard it is to fight with one eye and people will discredit the striking of Shlemenko all in the name of discrediting Moose. But Moose is a proven fighter and clearly a top 5 MW who could certainly beat the #1 on any given night. He could also have a bad night and lose. What we saw was a bad night for Moose. Shlemenko landed and his eye was fucked within a minute. Not a usual outcome, but it happens.

I expected him to do better but I didn't expect him to be fighting with one eye. Moose was essentially surviving for three rounds and unfortunately for Shlemenko, he wasn't able to put him away. Mousasi did enough to squeek out two rounds and got a disappointing win. It would be nice to see them eventually run it back.

The other point to make is that the top fighters in Bellator could all hang in the UFC. It's the depth that separates the organizations; once you get past their top fighters, they fall off where the UFC doesn't (and even in some UFC divisions, past their top 5 it's pretty weak). It's not as though Mousasi was fighting a slouch.
 
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Schlemenko is usually game, and he is certainly good enough to have a competitive fight with someone at Moose's level under normal circumstances.

Add the eye to it, and of course it was a struggle. I think in certain ways both fighters deserve a lot of credit.

Bellator lacks the high-end depth of the UFC, but within the popular divisions has enough guys that can be competitive with not exactly the top-top cluster of the UFC, but certainly the next level below.
 
Gegard was doing fairly well in the standup, and is clearly the more technical fighter, while he clearly gave up power to Shlemenko.

The announcing was biased as fuck though. Critics of the decision might try watching that fight on mute and I suspect most won't have a problem with the decision going Gegard's way.

Even Big John responded to Smith on Twitter to set him straight lol
 
He sounded so mad on mma hour. I think he reads sherdog.
Props to him for fighting with one eye. He possible could have lost his vision. Thats some serious shit.
 
Yes, but then again you can't completly count the other guy out.
 
That decision was a robbery and this thread doesn't belong in the heavies
 
Eye swollen shut early in Round 1 will severely degrade anyone's performance.
 
MikalP said:
People will discredit how hard it is to fight with one eye and people will discredit the striking of Shlemenko all in the name of discrediting Moose. But Moose is a proven fighter and clearly a top 5 MW who could certainly beat the #1 on any given night. He could also have a bad night and lose. What we saw was a bad night for Moose.

I expected him to do better but I didn't expect him to be fighting with one eye. Things like this happen. Moose was essentially surviving for three rounds and Shlemenko wasn't able to put him away. Mousasi did enough to squeek out two rounds and got a disappointing win. It would be nice to see them eventually run it back.

The other point to make is that the top fighters in Bellator could all hang in the UFC. It's the depth that separates the organizations; once you get past their top fighters, they fall off where the UFC doesn't (and even in some UFC divisions, past their top 5 it's pretty weak). It's not as though Mousasi was fighting a slouch.
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You can say that but the eye problem was caused by Shlemenko. It was damage he caused. It's more legitimate than Anderson's win over Cote or Weidman's win over Anderson.

I guess my point is if Shlemenko can do it, so can someone else and if the same Moose that fought Shlemenko shows up, he's probably going to lose
 
he got hurt early and that made the fight a lot more competitive than most thought it would be.

i had it 29-28 Mousasi, but no score between 29-28 Mousasi and 29-27 Shlemenko would have surprised me. in fact, the only surprise was that the score was unanimous.

and TS, if you find yourself giving out lots of 10-10's in your own mind, you really should reconsider whether you're using them too liberally. they hardly exist in the real world.
 
welcometohavoc said:
You can say that but the eye problem was caused by Shlemenko.
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Literally everybody knows that.

I guess my point is if Shlemenko can do it, so can someone else and if the same Moose that fought Shlemenko shows up, he's probably going to lose
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What does this even mean? Of course someone else could land a punch that hits at just the right spot and impacts the eye that way. But over the course of Mousasi's long ass career, this is the first time it's happened.

If a Mousasi with one eye shows up, yeah his chances won't be as good as they would be if he had two functioning eyes. But what you're trying to do (because you've been in a few threads trying to shit on Mousasi) is evaluate Mousasi based off of his fight with Shlemenko when we all know he is capable of much better.

it was an unusual circumstance and poor showing, but it isn't indicative of what Mousasi is capable of and you know it.
 
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MRT said:
Gegard was doing fairly well in the standup, and is clearly the more technical fighter, while he clearly gave up power to Shlemenko.

The announcing was biased as fuck though. Critics of the decision might try watching that fight on mute and I suspect most won't have a problem with the decision going Gegard's way.

Even Big John responded to Smith on Twitter to set him straight lol
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Nah I watched the Russian broadcast (couldn't understand a thing) and I thought Shlemenko won 2,3.
 
Kaiserjuan said:
For sure that eye was fucked up and he couldn't see much, so props to him fr being able to keep fighting and not get KTFO.
His TDs were weak and that was to be expected, but damn he could'nt get that RNC done...that was a little disappointing of him.
Btw I think the fight should have been a draw, he didn't really deserve that win.

10-9 Moose
10-10
10-9 Schlemenko

PS: that Shlemenko guy hits like a fucking truck! The thud whene those punches landed, dayum! Maybe the guy is back on the ol' vitamins lol
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Yes, I expected him to finish the sub attempts in the first. Shlemenkos striking volume was impressive, I'd still like to see a compustrike report for the fight. Moose was gifted that decision.
 
jonathan274 said:
Yes, I expected him to finish the sub attempts in the first. Shlemenkos striking volume was impressive, I'd still like to see a compustrike report for the fight. Moose was gifted that decision.
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he usually hurts guys bad before subbing them. in this case he only got him down and got his back. Shlemenko defended well - better than most expected after that Tito debacle (holy shit wiki tells me that was 3 years and 10 fights ago).

so yes, many of us kinda figured Mousasi would hurt him, pound him a bit, then sink a sub. instead he got hurt really badly, and managed to get the fight to the ground a few times but couldn't do anything but ride.

i know the sherdogger instinct is to blame, fault, or shred someone when something doesn't go the way they expected - e.g. Mousasi "sucks" or"Shlemenko is "world class"". TS didn't use the word "sucks", but he's doing something along these lines as well.

but sometimes it's not that dramatic. sometimes a guy just gets hurt early and it turns what Vegas thought was a lopsided bout into a competitive one.

PS speaking of better fighters getting hurt early, i still think Diaz was tooling KJ at the end of the first round of the first fight, and if the doc hadn't stopped it, KJ would go out in round 2 or 3.
 
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