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Talk of Restoring Monarchy in Russia Premature - Maria Romanova
Interfax ^ | 11/16/17

Posted on 11/20/2017 6:14:01 PM PST by marshmallow

Moscow, November 16, Interfax - Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna Romanova, the head of the Russian Imperial Family, said she hopes to move to Russia soon and believes that it is "not yet the time" for the restoration of monarchy.

"I really hope for that [move to Russia]. I am often asked [about the fact] that I live in Spain, but visit Russia often. I hope I will soon live in Russia and go abroad to visit," the grand duchess told reporters on Thursday.

In response to a question about her attitude to the restoration of monarchy in Russia, she said now is not the time for that.

"It's not the right time for that, it's too early. But I am always ready to serve, I think everything is possible," Romanova said.

The lessons taught by the revolution should be understood and objectively evaluated, she said.

"Reconciliation can only be achieved through love. Our task is to find everything that unites us, not divides us," she said.


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1 posted on 11/20/2017 6:14:01 PM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

It’s -never- time for a Monarch unless it’s Jesus himself.
ALL earthly monarchs should get slapped down just for asserting their right to rule.

This lunacy should have stopped after Thomas Paine wrote “Common Sense”.


2 posted on 11/20/2017 6:16:42 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ...)
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To: marshmallow

It’s the height of childish thinking to respect a monarch.


3 posted on 11/20/2017 6:17:39 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ...)
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To: marshmallow

Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna Romanova

Wasn’t that one of the roles in “You Can’t Take It With You?


4 posted on 11/20/2017 6:18:01 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: DesertRhino; marshmallow

“It’s never a time for Monarch unless it’s Jesus Himself.”

Give or take a few, Russian tsars were grotesquely awful. So awful they spawned an even more grotesque revolutions (1917) - the damage done by both the tsars and the revolts they spawned are innumerable.

In other news, Prince Harry is rumored to be engaged to an American. :)


5 posted on 11/20/2017 6:24:20 PM PST by GoldenState_Rose
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To: marshmallow

It’s likely whoever succeeds Putin will be declared czar.

Russia’s tried democracy twice now. The first attempt spawned the Bolsheviks. The second the destruction of the 90s and the dictatorship of Putin. At some point, people around are going to have to realize that different peoples require different types of governments. There’s no universal type of government that fits all peoples.


6 posted on 11/20/2017 6:45:38 PM PST by JohnyBoy (The GOP Senate is intentionally trying to lose the majority.)
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To: JohnyBoy

I used to think Maslow’s hierarchy of needs was universal.
That made me a good neo-con. The realization that self-actualization is not at the top of the Muslim pyramid made me jettison the notion that humans are driven by the same things. And now, no matter how cynical I get, it’s never enough.


7 posted on 11/20/2017 6:57:10 PM PST by sparklite2 (-)
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To: JohnyBoy

I say let them. I don’t like monarchies, but those people seem to like being ruled. Not my problem


8 posted on 11/20/2017 7:09:30 PM PST by This_Dude
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To: sparklite2
>I used to think Maslow’s hierarchy of needs was universal.

I had to look up Maslow’s hierarchy of needs. I read it when I was 11 but even then I thought it was garbage and promptly forgot about it.

Humans are a lot simpler than Maslow’s academic BS. We have the following needs: Fellowship, Family & Children, Community, Personal Status, and Group Status(not in any particular order). Everything we do is driven out of these needs with the most malleable of these needs being personal status. You can reduce things to simple pain or pleasure but typically you don't have a functioning civilization when those are the primary diving elements of an individual.

Islam's big problem is their lack of successful group status since Islamic civilization is incapable of creating civilization and their religion says they should be #1. Instead, they feed off the carcass of whatever civilization they conquered and decline as they run out people to exploit. All the lies told about western civilization exploiting others really do apply to Islamic civilization.
This leads to endless trouble where they play dominance games(terrorism, bad treatment, etc) with everyone trying to increase their status or conqueror a new host for their parasite religion.

Islam's great strength is how much status they give to their warriors which gives them an endless stream of people willing to die for Allah. Islam always works better when a strong ruler keeps a tight leash on the religion to keep it from getting out of hand. But because Islam is so prone to Holiness spirals it generally takes a real bastard of a ruler to keep it in check. Hence the disasters of Iraq and Libya.

9 posted on 11/20/2017 7:26:35 PM PST by JohnyBoy (The GOP Senate is intentionally trying to lose the majority.)
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To: JohnyBoy

Maslow’s academic BS says the same thing you are saying, combining some and arranging them in order of need. An eleven year-old rejecting it out of hand is a precocious little feller.

Aside from the Islamic thing (the pinnacle should probably be some form of ‘virgin attainment’), the main problem with the hierarchy is that after someone has achieved a level, it ceases to motivate them as strongly as before, allowing some slippage down the scale.


10 posted on 11/20/2017 7:39:01 PM PST by sparklite2 (-)
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To: sparklite2

>Maslow’s academic BS says the same thing you are saying, combining some and arranging them in order of need.

Maslow doesn’t emphasize social status, which appears to be the primary driver of pretty much everything we do and is directly connected to being able to fulfill the other needs I listed. The malleability of social status is the key to understanding humans and there’s always more status to be gained or lost through someone’s actions and behavior.

Ever wonder why liberals will believe the crazy things they believe? It’s social status. That status changes over time and thus what they have to believe changes as well. Facts don’t enter into it because facts are not high status for liberals. Facts tend to be high status for conservatives and thus we tend to reward honesty while liberals reward lying.

>Aside from the Islamic thing (the pinnacle should probably be some form of ‘virgin attainment’)

Studies of suicide bombers indicate most are married with children. It’s not a sex thing for the most part. It’s a social status thing for their children. The child of a suicide bomber will be given high status and thus get their other needs met. We want to view it as sex-starved Muslims being unable to get laid as the root cause because that makes it low status to us. But the facts are different.

>, the main problem with the hierarchy is that after someone has achieved a level, it ceases to motivate them as strongly as before, allowing some slippage down the scale.

There’s no hierarchy. A man may devote 20 years to build wealth before settling down to starting a family and building social status through charitable donations. Or he may start a family right away and then work on building social status through working in a high-status profession. And young Indian warrior needs to prove his ability to fight before he’s given the social status necessary to acquire a wife and children. Needs are often met through acquiring social status and that status is determined by the needs or wants of the group as a whole.

Finally, wealth is the easiest thing to convert to social status which is why it’s so often pursued by most people.


11 posted on 11/20/2017 7:59:35 PM PST by JohnyBoy (The GOP Senate is intentionally trying to lose the majority.)
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At some point, people around are going to have to realize that different peoples require different types of governments. There’s no universal type of government that fits all peoples.

The Chuds, the Slavs, and the Krivichians then said to the people of Rus: "Our whole land is great and rich, but there is no order in it. Come to rule and reign over us."

--the Russian Primary Chronicle

12 posted on 11/20/2017 8:22:06 PM PST by Oratam ("Let justice be done tho' the heavens fall.")
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To: JohnyBoy

Democracy The God that Failed

http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf


13 posted on 11/21/2017 10:55:23 AM PST by NRx (A man of integrity passes his father's civilization to his son, without selling it off to strangers.)
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To: DesertRhino
It’s the height of childish thinking to respect a monarch.

Having spent time with her, I can say that she is a very nice lady and quite respectable.

14 posted on 11/21/2017 11:16:52 AM PST by pbear8 (the Lord is my light and my salvation)
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To: pbear8

Thats nice. BUT, if she has the slightest feeling that she should have -any- role in government based upon her bloodline then she is NOT a nice lady and is NOT respectable.

No more than i would be “nice and respectable”, if i claimed a right to be have a role in governing your life because i claim God ordained it, or because of who my dad is.

It is childish to think otherwise, no matter how she pours the tea.


15 posted on 11/21/2017 12:59:04 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ...)
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