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(AL.com)   New Confederate monument set to be unveiled in Crenshaw County, AL. Because remembering unknown Confederate soldiers who never came home from Civil War belongs next to RV park belonging to man who owns the monument   (al.com) divider line
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SpaceyCat [TotalFark] [OhFark]  
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2017-08-18 1:13:47 PM  
So long as it's private land and private money, I don't give a fark.  It's not great, but it's his land and money.  If he were spending public money or using public land, then I'd have a huge farking problem.
 
BMFPitt  
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2017-08-18 1:23:34 PM  
What a confederate soldier who never came home might look like:

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kdawg7736 [TotalFark] [OhFark]  
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2017-08-18 2:28:37 PM  
History buff here, statues can educate us about history. Look at Gettysburg for example. Monuments and statues everywhere.

I wonder if anyone will try to vandalize or tear down the Confederate ones there. Any bets?
 
vudukungfu [TotalFark] [OhFark]  
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2017-08-18 2:48:55 PM  

kdawg7736: History buff here, statues can educate us about history. Look at Gettysburg for example. Monuments and statues everywhere.

I wonder if anyone will try to vandalize or tear down the Confederate ones there. Any bets?


No idea, but I have a great great grandfather there on a horse.
Winning side, I might add.
 
2017-08-18 3:18:35 PM  
As long as it's in a cemetery, fine.  I have no quarrel with the dead.
 
2017-08-18 3:19:42 PM  

kdawg7736: History buff here, statues can educate us about history. Look at Gettysburg for example. Monuments and statues everywhere.

I wonder if anyone will try to vandalize or tear down the Confederate ones there. Any bets?


God I hope not,  for the most part Gettysburg and the other battlegrounds can be seen as Hollowed Ground.

The whole area is a museum,  and the monuments, for the most part, remember the lives given.

It's definitely a different feeling, I can't say I've ever been around the Battlefield and felt like there was a place glorifying the Confederacy.  If anything it was the opposite.
 
probesport  
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2017-08-18 3:20:14 PM  
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MrKevvy  
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2017-08-18 3:20:40 PM  
Done in one... private land. The entire problem with the statues has been they are on public land so the government which is supposed to be for all people is giving the message that they endorse or support the Confederacy.

Just like religious icons, monuments, etc., being on private land negates this.
 
cgraves67  
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2017-08-18 3:20:44 PM  

SpaceyCat: So long as it's private land and private money, I don't give a fark.  It's not great, but it's his land and money.  If he were spending public money or using public land, then I'd have a huge farking problem.


I agree completely. You want to put up a statue of bad people at a courthouse or capital; I oppose that. But a museum, battlefield, or private land is okay by me.
 
nijika  
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2017-08-18 3:20:53 PM  
Confederates really don't understand why the placement of some of these Jim Crow/civil Rights  era "monuments" are problematic do they?
 
TheOther  
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2017-08-18 3:21:55 PM  
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12349876  
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2017-08-18 3:22:48 PM  
Remembering the unknown soldiers especially conscripted is a heck of a lot more honorable than the rich general traitors who had a clear choice.  The latter make up the vast majority if the statues.
 
2017-08-18 3:24:21 PM  
I hear this one might be available:
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Douggernaut  
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2017-08-18 3:24:21 PM  

nijika: Confederates really don't understand why the placement of some of these Jim Crow/civil Rights  era "monuments" are problematic do they?


Oh, don't give them credit for ignorance.  They know exactly why people don't like them, and that's how they like it.
 
2017-08-18 3:24:23 PM  
His land, his money.  So i got no issue with it.  that said i won't give a fark if someone trashes it.
 
Albert911emt [TotalFark]  
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2017-08-18 3:24:38 PM  
I just love the contradiction of the US flag flying alongside the confederate flag.
 
2017-08-18 3:25:24 PM  

The First Noel: God I hope not,  for the most part Gettysburg and the other battlegrounds can be seen as Hollowed Ground.


Hallowed.

You need to go up the road to Centralia to find "Hollowed Ground".
 
Watubi  
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2017-08-18 3:25:37 PM  

kdawg7736: History buff here, statues can educate us about history. Look at Gettysburg for example. Monuments and statues everywhere.

I wonder if anyone will try to vandalize or tear down the Confederate ones there. Any bets?


There are two kinds of monuments, those that memorialize and those that glorify.  If you can't tell the difference, you might be a redneck (Jeff Foxworthy voice)
 
Somacandra [TotalFark] [OhFark]  
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2017-08-18 3:26:21 PM  
If it is private land and a private monument, its a non-issue. TFA is muddy on this--seems to indicate it could be either. shiatty journalism. Its not a Confederate monument though--its another Lost Cause monument. The Lost Cause flag was never an actual historical flag of the CSA--it was a combination of an army and navy emblem assembled toward the end of the war for propaganda purposes.
 
2017-08-18 3:28:25 PM  

kdawg7736: History buff here, statues can educate us about history. Look at Gettysburg for example. Monuments and statues everywhere.

I wonder if anyone will try to vandalize or tear down the Confederate ones there. Any bets?


They're probably ok as long as Nazis don't show up to worship them.
 
argylez  
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2017-08-18 3:29:19 PM  
Traitors and treason should not be honored.  If it's private land & private $, it's a non issue.
 
2017-08-18 3:30:46 PM  

vudukungfu: kdawg7736: History buff here, statues can educate us about history. Look at Gettysburg for example. Monuments and statues everywhere.

I wonder if anyone will try to vandalize or tear down the Confederate ones there. Any bets?

No idea, but I have a great great grandfather there on a horse.
Winning side, I might add.


He should come home. War's over.
 
2017-08-18 3:32:08 PM  

vudukungfu: kdawg7736: History buff here, statues can educate us about history. Look at Gettysburg for example. Monuments and statues everywhere.

I wonder if anyone will try to vandalize or tear down the Confederate ones there. Any bets?

No idea, but I have a great great grandfather there on a horse.
Winning side, I might add.


There's a difference between the monuments at Gettysburg, where you wander the battlefield and get an idea of what units were where, and what they did, versus a statue of Robert E Lee in the town square of East Holler, TN.
 
2017-08-18 3:33:30 PM  

cgraves67: SpaceyCat: So long as it's private land and private money, I don't give a fark.  It's not great, but it's his land and money.  If he were spending public money or using public land, then I'd have a huge farking problem.

I agree completely. You want to put up a statue of bad people at a courthouse or capital; I oppose that. But a museum, battlefield, or private land is okay by me.


What about bophomet or the ten commandments at a courthouse?

/hail santa
 
2017-08-18 3:34:04 PM  
...though it is located on private land...

Don't care.
 
2017-08-18 3:36:56 PM  

This text is now purple: The First Noel: God I hope not,  for the most part Gettysburg and the other battlegrounds can be seen as Hollowed Ground.

Hallowed.

You need to go up the road to Centralia to find "Hollowed Ground".


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Ocean_Pimp  
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2017-08-18 3:37:47 PM  
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2017-08-18 3:38:22 PM  

secondpsych: cgraves67: SpaceyCat: So long as it's private land and private money, I don't give a fark.  It's not great, but it's his land and money.  If he were spending public money or using public land, then I'd have a huge farking problem.

I agree completely. You want to put up a statue of bad people at a courthouse or capital; I oppose that. But a museum, battlefield, or private land is okay by me.

What about bophomet or the ten commandments at a courthouse?

/hail santa


Baphomet* The Big bopper.
 
GDubDub  
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2017-08-18 3:38:34 PM  

vudukungfu: kdawg7736: History buff here, statues can educate us about history. Look at Gettysburg for example. Monuments and statues everywhere.

I wonder if anyone will try to vandalize or tear down the Confederate ones there. Any bets?

No idea, but I have a great great grandfather there on a horse.
Winning side, I might add.


A high horse, no doubt.
 
2017-08-18 3:40:42 PM  

Hack Patooey: There's a difference between the monuments at Gettysburg, where you wander the battlefield and get an idea of what units were where, and what they did, versus a statue of Robert E Lee in the town square of East Holler, TN.


These protesters vandalized a peace monument in Atlanta solely because it mentioned the confederacy...

I would like to think that they know the difference between a public display and hallowed ground, but I'm not going to hold my breath.
 
cgraves67  
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2017-08-18 3:42:18 PM  

secondpsych: cgraves67: SpaceyCat: So long as it's private land and private money, I don't give a fark.  It's not great, but it's his land and money.  If he were spending public money or using public land, then I'd have a huge farking problem.

I agree completely. You want to put up a statue of bad people at a courthouse or capital; I oppose that. But a museum, battlefield, or private land is okay by me.

What about bophomet or the ten commandments at a courthouse?

/hail santa


All or none. No preferential treatment.
 
Mikey1969 [OhFark]  
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2017-08-18 3:45:03 PM  

nijika: Confederates really don't understand why the placement of some of these Jim Crow/civil Rights  era "monuments" are problematic do they?


The "placement" is on private land. Non-story.
 
Marine1  
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2017-08-18 3:45:10 PM  

kdawg7736: History buff here, statues can educate us about history. Look at Gettysburg for example. Monuments and statues everywhere.

I wonder if anyone will try to vandalize or tear down the Confederate ones there. Any bets?


I actually don't mind so long as the statues are memorials are on battlefields, at cemeteries, or in museums. The first two would qualify as mourning of war dead, and the third would be displaying history where it belongs.
 
2017-08-18 3:45:27 PM  
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groppet [TotalFark]  
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2017-08-18 3:49:09 PM  
It better be as creepy as that Nathan Forrest one, that is worth a looksee.
 
2017-08-18 3:50:08 PM  
Just where the The Confederacy belongs: a trailer park.
 
2017-08-18 3:54:39 PM  

This text is now purple: The First Noel: God I hope not,  for the most part Gettysburg and the other battlegrounds can be seen as Hollowed Ground.

Hallowed.

You need to go up the road to Centralia to find "Hollowed Ground".


good point!
 
2017-08-18 3:55:28 PM  
the memorial park is open to the public though it is located on private land

End of story.

Lets move on to the next outrage.
 
mooseyfate  
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2017-08-18 3:57:26 PM  
His land + His Money = No1Curr
 
2017-08-18 4:02:23 PM  

12349876: Remembering the unknown soldiers especially conscripted is a heck of a lot more honorable than the rich general traitors who had a clear choice.  The latter make up the vast majority if the statues.


Came here to say exactly that.

A memorial to unknown soldiers who never came home is probably one of the few I wouldn't genuinely have an issue with (along with at respective battlefields and such).

Also, the 700+ statues all over were pretty clearly a 'f you' put up in the early 1900s during the 1st major rise of the Klan as part of a deliberate campaign to venerate and ennoble the Confederacy with its 'Lost Cause' narrative.  Statues in the town square is to venerate, not a history lesson.  *Maybe* if they were part of a statue garden that included slaves, someone from the Union, etc. then that story would pass muster.

Or, to put it another way, isn't it awfully suspicious how many more statues of Confederates there are than any other group in this country, including, it seems, the founding fathers? *   Or that so many states, including the ones that didn't exist in 1860-1865 have a damn highway named after the president of the Confederacy?

*One list I found had George Washington at about 200 memorials (not just statues), and its hard to imagine anyone else in that group getting nearly as many, nationwide, so I am being presumptive about the numbers here.
 
SBinRR [OhFark]  
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2017-08-18 4:03:23 PM  
This sounds like one classy layout to me. I mean if he's pouring the millions he's making off his RV park into this project it can't be anything but a premium visual buffet.
I might have to take the old Coachman down there to see what this fella has worked up for the public.
 
2017-08-18 4:05:37 PM  

NephilimNexus: As long as it's in a cemetery, fine.  I have no quarrel with the dead.


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2017-08-18 4:13:53 PM  
Who cares. Are we going to worry about this guy building a 'fortress' out of empty beer cans too?
 
kdawg7736 [TotalFark] [OhFark]  
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2017-08-18 4:14:29 PM  

vudukungfu: kdawg7736: History buff here, statues can educate us about history. Look at Gettysburg for example. Monuments and statues everywhere.

I wonder if anyone will try to vandalize or tear down the Confederate ones there. Any bets?

No idea, but I have a great great grandfather there on a horse.
Winning side, I might add.


I have an ancestor with my last name on the Pennsylvania Memorial. Winning side, too.
 
2017-08-18 4:18:04 PM  

SpaceyCat: So long as it's private land and private money, I don't give a fark.  It's not great, but it's his land and money.  If he were spending public money or using public land, then I'd have a huge farking problem.


Done in one.  I don't care if he builds a statue of a giant turd on his own land with his own money.
 
2017-08-18 4:30:57 PM  

kdawg7736: History buff here, statues can educate us about history. Look at Gettysburg for example. Monuments and statues everywhere.

I wonder if anyone will try to vandalize or tear down the Confederate ones there. Any bets?


I dunno. Do the confederate statues there honor the dead and leave it at that? Or do they glorify and elevate leaders of the confederacy who's reasons for going to war included the right to own people, and to make sure their government remained whites only?

Because if it's the former, probably not. If it's the latter, and they were erected during the civil rights movement to remind certain people who was in charge, they probably need to come down.
 
2017-08-18 4:31:54 PM  

HideAndGoFarkYourself: SpaceyCat: So long as it's private land and private money, I don't give a fark.  It's not great, but it's his land and money.  If he were spending public money or using public land, then I'd have a huge farking problem.

Done in one.  I don't care if he builds a statue of a giant turd on his own land with his own money.


Didn't read the article I see... he is building a statue of a giant turd.
 
nijika  
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2017-08-18 4:36:18 PM  

Mikey1969: The "placement" is on private land. Non-story.


That's exactly why the antifa/Soros-army or whatever he's trying to bait will not give even a heck.  This is like when residents in a town that would only attract David Lynch get prepped and ready for the Mooslin Invasion.
 
2017-08-18 4:38:27 PM  

SpaceyCat: So long as it's private land and private money, I don't give a fark.  It's not great, but it's his land and money.  If he were spending public money or using public land, then I'd have a huge farking problem.


Ouch. That'll shut down some Friend's arguements.
 
ISO15693  
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2017-08-18 4:58:21 PM  
"The public's invited. Anyone who wants to can come to celebrate the unveiling of another monument to Confederate soldiers," Hill told AngryLosers.com
 
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