Thread: UFC 214: Cormier vs. Jones II-The Official Live Discussion Thread!

Finally a stacked card that actually has that big event feel, been so freaking bored/indifferent to MMA this year.

I think the first fight was closer than a lot of people remember and jones might be rusty and affected by usada. I would only have jones as a very slight favorite in this fight

A few factors in the fight:

• No Eye Pokes
• No "Pepsi"
• Post USADA Testing
• Big John will be the Officiating Referee
• Long time away/Ring Rust for Jones

I hope Manuwa get's KO'd in the dick by Oezdemir just so he stops running his bitch mouth about fighting DC or Jon for the belt.

i'm leaning cormier, but either one can take it, would like to see gustafson face either one a second time. idk with jones being out for awhile, some of those other factors with new rules etc, not a fan of him anyways guy reeks two faced. hate people like that

Unless D.C. knocks jones out, I can't picture D.C. Winning.

I can see a close match in points with JJ always coming out on top.

I don't think it's likely for DC to successfully grind him out, pound him out, or submit him. For that reason I give Jon every edge, whether it be a close points fight or a stoppage. However, DC could always catch him and end it.

Also we don't know how JJ looks. Ring rust being out for a while, post USADA, etc... and his first fight is right back into the ring with the title holder. SO, there's also the chance that we simply don't see the same JJ we're use to seeing, in which case my analysis is totally off.

if the Jon Jones before the hit and run shows up, its JBJ all day, if it's the OSP JBJ, then it's cormier, that's the way I look at it.

Another thing I want to add about the "Pepsi" thing. It's Rampant in Amateur Boxing because it Numbs you and gets you All Hyped Up and they don't test for it. That's why he was "drinking it".

Im not a big proponent of ring rust. Look at Cruz as a recent example.

Theres also an element of having the person not know what you're like lately because you've changed your skills and developed/studied new ones.

Especially when age is not a factor. Jones is 30 now peaking. Cormier is 38.

So it was a layoff but for a younger age man. Other things during layoff is you save your body from getting beat up (9 year rule) which is a good thing in MMA unlike other sports.

Hes a very high IQ dynamic fighter already so doesn't rely on having to keep practicing, he and his team are beyond that limitation.

USADA element is the realest element here. Thats what I'm most worried about.

Im not worried about how he looked against OSP because like Cormier said, he didn't really worry about that fight so he went in half assed, but for Cormier he has to be at his best and strong enough to control Cormier who is naturally more husky.

though he is 38, he relys more on old man strength and power as opposed to speed, but I think there is a chance he might have gas issues 4th and 5th like before. No reason to think as he got 3 yrs older he got more fitness its the opposite.

So I think if Jones is doing his best natty work and powerlifting like usual and all that he is still favored to win.

He is too high IQ to be weakened by layoffs. He has new tricks up his sleeve for sure. While DC is the same ol DC. Did nothing impressive lately. Had to take Rumble to the ground, couldn't beat him standing. Rumble had no where near the same league of TDD and ground game as Bones.

DC doesn't look as fat as usual.

I think its GG

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they are talking about how Jon is deadlifting mind blowing amounts of weight and bending bars and stuff like that. Pretty strong clue.

I want DC to win b/c JJ is an absolute psychopath, but DC is going to get rekt.

I can't shake the feeling that DC got off extremely lucky in the second Rumble fight, by that I don't mean he won by luck or a fluke, but that he was extremely lucky that Rumble had pretty much checked out by that point and had no real intention of winning that fight so went with that retarded potato wrestling gameplan. That fight shouldn't have looked that way at all if Rumble was actually motivated and truly coming for DC's head like he has in all his other fights. It was like a get out of jail free card for DC.

Originally Posted by MinisterOfLust

Wait, I am unaware of Pepsi since I rarely drink soft drinks.

I think he means Coke.